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Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 12:16:12 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 12:09:17 2007. It wasn't on the street. It was on the mezzanine level just up the stairs from the platform and (IIRC) before the turnstiles.Also, it was more than two seconds; it was a couple minutes at least. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 13:21:19 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 12:09:17 2007. If that is the case, I would sue the officer personally ALONG with the department (using the officer's badge # and forcing the NYPD to identify him/her in court papers.) |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 13:23:32 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 30 21:44:41 2007. However, if you ask for a trial by jury, handcuffing without reading rights at any point is grounds enough---making the picture deletion irrelevant. In addition, one could say that no warning was provided...and make sure the questions are crafted into making the officer say something contradictory---OR make it look as though the officer was COACHED on how to answer questions. |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 13:28:16 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 30 21:44:41 2007. The key, of course, is to claim it RIGHT AWAY, and take the chance that the officer refuses to call for EMS right away. (As I said prior, however, for myself, it would not be hard at all, and I probably wouldn't be faking it.)In addition, handcuffing without fingerprinting is also a violation (NYC policy requires it to be done, even if it is destroyed later), and is evidence I would use against the officer. BTW, it has happened when a person was wrongfully arrested and died because of it---the NYPD ended up paying a $5M+ settlement for wrongful death. |
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I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 13:30:04 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007.  Further update regarding the cop encounter on Sunday. I called the NYCLU, and they said to write a letter to their legal department. Unfortunately, they want the case number and name of the investigator from the CCRB, which I don't have yet. I filed the complaint online last night, and apparently, they make a point of calling within 24 hours of receiving the complaint, so I'll probably get that information today. |
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Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Tue May 1 13:34:26 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 22:11:55 2007. It's not PG rated, bro.... it's similar to saying "they shafted you".... only in much more EXTREME terms. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue May 1 13:35:59 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by orange blossom special on Tue May 1 12:09:17 2007. I've been handcuffed, being handcuffed is not being arrested."For your saftey as well as ours we will handcuff you as my partner goes to the booth to check your metrocard" is exactly what the PO told me as he put on the braclets. They accused me of using a student metrocard when in fact I entered right after a student and the cop thought the light was for my swipe not the kid ahead. |
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Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by E Line Fan on Tue May 1 13:45:25 2007, in response to I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 13:30:04 2007. Good for you, sir. Things changed Tuesday September 11th but that doesn't make it right. There still are railfans and train spotters. Maybe they should check out Subchat, Riders Diaries or TransitStuff to see we don't think trains are ugly. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 1 14:25:23 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 09:26:12 2007. What does youth in Asia have anything to do with this? :)--Mark |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 1 14:26:44 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 30 17:24:12 2007. I would really need to see that in order to make a fair and unbiased conslusion.--Mark :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 14:29:56 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue May 1 13:35:59 2007. 1. How, exactly, is your safety improved by being handcuffed? That makes no sense.2. Why didn't they just ask you to show your Metrocard? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 14:30:57 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 1 14:25:23 2007. Ha ha! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 1 16:03:52 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 30 22:16:34 2007. Nice! |
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Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 16:12:38 2007, in response to I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 13:30:04 2007. Wow! That is much better than the ACLU in LA. I didn't here from them for maybe 4 months and they only replied with a letter asking me whether I had experienced a pattern of discrimination related to the Patriot Act. I hadn't so I just threw the letter away. |
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Posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 16:14:20 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 14:29:56 2007. Just cop BS that they are trained to say to diffuse the situation. The cop that handcuffed me said the same thing here in LA. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Tue May 1 16:48:01 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 16:12:38 2007. It helps that a lawyer associated with NYCLU is a railfan photographer. |
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Posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 17:02:30 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by chuchubob on Tue May 1 16:48:01 2007. I guess that would do it. It probably also helps that the NYCLU isn't obsessed with trying to ensure that homeless drug addicts have the right to build tents on the sidewalk so that they can smoke crack and shoot heroin without law enforcement bothering them. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 1 17:14:02 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by J trainloco on Tue May 1 04:03:24 2007. Now you're thinking like a cop. |
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Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue May 1 17:17:47 2007, in response to I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 13:30:04 2007. Good for you! Don't give up. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 17:38:02 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 16:12:38 2007. Never forget, the ACLU is a leftist political organization which doesn't give a rat's ass about your "civil liberties" unless they can use you to advance your agenda. Unfortunatley, in this case Nilet needs them as much as they need him. I'd call them as well if I were in his place, trying very hard to choke down the bile ... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 17:39:11 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by LA Blue Line on Tue May 1 16:12:38 2007. Never forget, the ACLU is a leftist political organization which doesn't give a rat's ass about your "civil liberties" unless they can use you to advance their agenda. Unfortunatley, in this case Nilet needs them as much as they need him. I'd call them as well if I were in his place, trying very hard to choke down the bile ... |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 17:48:25 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 17:38:02 2007. You can say that again! :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue May 1 18:02:22 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by E Line Fan on Tue May 1 13:45:25 2007. Things changed Tuesday September 11th but that doesn't make it right.Funny how politicians kept saying that we should go back to our normal lives after 9/11... They should have said this does not apply to photographers :-( |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Tue May 1 18:04:56 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by E Line Fan on Tue May 1 13:45:25 2007. I don't think 9/11 was the cause of our problems as train photographers. 3/11 in Spain was the real root of our problems. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 18:05:30 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 17:39:11 2007. Don't worry, I think I'm leftist enough. :) Jackass. |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Tue May 1 18:06:07 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 18:05:30 2007. Good to hear. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 18:18:18 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 17:48:25 2007. Check closely, I had to edit one word. |
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Posted by Canton Viaduct on Tue May 1 18:36:02 2007, in response to I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Tue May 1 13:30:04 2007. Awesome job. The CCRB should definitely have that information available to you at some point. I remember filing and getting a complaint number and report in the mail within a few weeks. For the purposes of this incident, however, hopefully they can provide you with something over the phone quicker.Again, great work, and best of luck! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 18:45:17 2007, in response to Re: Update of the Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Tue May 1 13:35:59 2007. I know it's petty, but it is petty stuff like this that one should force the courts to get involved in. It might set up a legal showdown.Also, inform the cop that if something illegal was done, issue a ticket so that it can be fought in court. Otherwise, a formal complaint followed by legal action would be done. (This is in addition to claiming---at the immediate time---deliberate attempt to injure by the officer.) |
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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by mr_brian on Tue May 1 18:47:56 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Apr 30 19:43:07 2007. Correct! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 1 18:50:18 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Sun Apr 29 21:06:55 2007. I was going to say that Harry, but again, I will remain neutral here. That I had done the same thing the next day---GRANTED---in out of the way locations, must be explained by that I am doing something different---unless it is clearly being set up well before the shot, I am not sure what. (Then again, I don't stick around long enough to permit an argument to occur.) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 1 18:52:19 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 1 16:03:52 2007. What was also nice was that they decided to run promos for the entire weekend before using a 3 second clip of me which they ran once an hour for the proceeding 48 hours. My friend's wife saw one at 2 AM but it was over before she could wake up her husband. Too bad I didn't get a copy of the promo because I couldn't get my VCR to work. The mailman recognized me just from the promos! The piece was 0:2:24 long so with the promos I figure I've got another 10 minutes and 12 seconds of fame left. The video was also available on the internet for two weeks, and the text for several months.Also, the producer called me at 5 PM to tell me I would be on at 5:15. Due to an unscheduled breaking story it actually ran at 5:23. So it's not only the trains that run late. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue May 1 19:49:21 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 17:39:11 2007. Hey nazi, at least the ACLU is FIGHTING for our freedom which is a lot more than I can say for the money we're blowing on Iraq. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue May 1 19:50:29 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007. Next time, if you see a cop start to approach you, and if you have enough time, remove the memory card and hide it. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue May 1 20:01:06 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BMTLines on Tue May 1 18:02:22 2007. We need to break the back of conservatism. Then there will be no more petroterror. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue May 1 20:01:06 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BMTLines on Tue May 1 18:02:22 2007. We need to break the back of conservatism. Then there will be no more petroterror. |
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Re: Cop Incident |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 1 20:05:12 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BIE on Tue May 1 20:01:06 2007. We need to break the back of conservatismIt's already broken. It's Neoconservatism that has to go. |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by FarRock on Tue May 1 20:20:06 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Mon Apr 30 22:04:55 2007. Al Sharpton is much more deserving of death at the hand of police than Mr. Bell.For what reason? Fighting for the rights of his people? Remember, Al Shartpon isn't the spokesperson for Blacks as most unknowledgable people like you think. It's nothing wrong with him fighting for his people. |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 1 20:26:04 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 30 22:24:57 2007. Bullshit. |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 1 20:39:02 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by FarRock on Tue May 1 20:20:06 2007. anint' jemimma connie riceclarence uncle thomas cooolin uncle powell larry elder ted fool hayes and more ''the NEGRO RIGHT WING'' does not ''speak for american blacks''' either |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by Transit Guy on Tue May 1 20:39:51 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Apr 30 21:58:05 2007. I agree. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 1 20:42:30 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BIE on Tue May 1 19:49:21 2007. Maybe you should read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and some of the other books on nazi Germany and learn what the nazis were really about before you go around calling other people nazis, azzhole. |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 1 21:01:24 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Transit Guy on Tue May 1 20:39:51 2007. thank you !!!! right on |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue May 1 21:09:40 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue May 1 21:01:24 2007. black power |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue May 1 21:11:43 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Mon Apr 30 21:45:30 2007. It does NOT justify Oliver using TWO clips at Bell and the car. The idiot officer could have killed anyone at the Jamaica Airtrain station.Oliver should have been indicted for murder, and the undercover officer for reckless endangerment while the other cops should have gone home. |
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Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by BIE on Tue May 1 21:11:45 2007, in response to Re: I Called The NYCLU (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue May 1 20:42:30 2007. I read and did a course long book report on The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Knee jerk pro cop jingoism is the greatest threat to our liberty. The ACLU are the REAL HEROES who have to face the possibility of brutal supression if the right wing pro coppers EVER get their way. BTW, ever read Berlin Diary or any of Shirer's other books? |
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Posted by BIE on Tue May 1 21:13:25 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue May 1 19:50:29 2007. That would be considered a "furtive action" allowing the cop to do a cavity search. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 21:16:49 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue May 1 14:25:23 2007. Hahahahaha!! The link actually does what it says! Truth in packaging, damn, that's fine, man.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue May 1 21:17:55 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 1 11:58:12 2007. I know but it would carry a different, if lesser, penalty than plain old murder. I just wanna know which words to utter to be used against me :Dyour pal, Fred |
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Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 1 21:52:03 2007, in response to Re: (SEAN BELL) ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 30 22:24:57 2007. And you know different? |
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