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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 11:27:22 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 21:44:35 2007.

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one of the people in the tower said that her boss told her photography was prohibitted.

At this point I ask for her boss's name, and ask to speak with him right now. If she gives this information fine, it is no skin off her nose. If she does not give this information, just say "Fine, I'll find out who it is and call him myself." Ask for her badge number if it is not displayed. If she refuses that then say "Fine, I'll report that too."

And then say, "Since you have no badge, you have no right or authority to make requests of me, and I will continue taking pictures."

ROAR

(It would probably be over the edge to wave your tail at her, assuming you are of a species that *has* a tail.)

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 11:30:05 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 22:06:16 2007.

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Always carry a pad and pencil.

Write things down.

Dates Times Places Names Numbers and Events.

ROAR

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 11:45:12 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by The Queen on Sun Apr 29 21:37:48 2007.

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Am I wrong?

Probably, although I do not know for sure.

Magnetic media, yes that is exactly right.

Optical Media, such as the the CD-R disks that I can use in my camera, those cannot be changed or erased at all. CD-RW disks that I can also used can be reformatted, but that *does* erase everything and there is no way to recover it (AFIK). But that takes time.

As for electronic media such as Nilet used, LION does not know how it works. I think that a "Reformat" command would simply return all registers to zero. No hope of any recovery in that. LION suspects a delete command would do that for individual images. But who knows. Maybe all it does is delete the directory, in which case the data would still be available.

LION suspects that different systems might do it differently.

LION also thinks that he *will* use CD-R rather than CD-RW disks when visiting the Big Apple.

ROAR

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 11:47:46 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Transit Guy on Sun Apr 29 21:38:31 2007.

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LION says.

No you may not touch or examine my camera unless you arrest me first.
Then put it away.

ROAR

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Apr 30 13:05:06 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 21:47:36 2007.

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GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE AND TAKE A FEW FRIENDS WITH YOU AND TAKE AS MANY PHOTOS AND VIDEO AS YOU CAN, AND THEN SEE IF THESE PIGS COME BACK....AND CARRY A NOTE BOOK AND PENCELS WITH YOU !!!!!
THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO END. Karl M

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 13:15:38 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 11:47:46 2007.

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That is what I would have done...you will have to arrest me, or I will contact the ACLU and have you named in a lawsuit. (Of course, after the handcuffs are on, I would claim heart trouble afterwards and force the police to remain there while EMS is contacted---and if they don't contact EMS, well, that is another charge to be leveled in a lawsuit, to be accompanied by a formal complaint against the officer.)

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FIRST OFFICER/PA operator Paul on Mon Apr 30 13:24:27 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007.

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this is completely UNACCEPTABLE. I dont even know you, but I hope u sue the city for damages and get them idiot cops fired. I say that is illegal use of their authority. Keep us all posted on what happens. Man them cops would have hated me. They just think u wont do anything about it. PROVE THEM WRONG!!!!

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 13:35:04 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 13:15:38 2007.

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Well, I know how that works, at least from the EMS side of the equation.

ROAR

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 13:49:52 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 13:35:04 2007.

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However, the officer knows that he doesn't want his employer stuck with a wrongful-death or neglect lawsuit, right?

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 15:40:04 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007.

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Since you got the numbers, go to the NYPD TB 33 and ask to speak to the supervising officer, and inform him that you are filing a formal complaint against the officers...preferably in their presence. Since the officers placed handcuffs on you without reading your rights, inform them that this is the grounds for your complaint, refusing to read your rights...and inform the supervisor that you are also filing a complaint with the CCRB. However, for a lawsuit, I don't think there is enough grounds for a lawyer to want to take on the case (except for the ACLU, which will take it on pro bono). Also inform the supervisor that the officers refused to provide the information related to the supervisor as required by judicial decision.

In addition, state that you were complying and that you were arrested anyway.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Mon Apr 30 15:52:31 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Grand concourse on Mon Apr 30 00:39:27 2007.

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Chill, b... let him meet teh cops!!

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by SOUTH FERRY on Mon Apr 30 15:54:57 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 30 15:40:04 2007.

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Se pasaron deverga contigo!

Not to mention search and seizure without probable cause...

Totally unwarranted conduct... but then again-- Utica aint exactly Madison.


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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 15:57:44 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007.

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I'm so sorry to hear that from you. Life can be a bitch though.

If you do end up suing them, can you also please do me a favor and make the MTA put up signs saying pictures are allowed ?

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 16:00:10 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 15:57:44 2007.

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Oh, and also tell the media as well.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Apr 30 16:02:54 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 16:00:10 2007.

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Excellent point!

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Apr 30 16:06:49 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 30 02:09:29 2007.

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Ha, you obviously have never been stopped

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 30 16:25:47 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 16:00:10 2007.

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Oh, and also tell the media as well.

It was already in the media and in the papers when they canceled their effort to make it illegal.

In case they do not read the Times, the Post, the News, or Newsday, it was also printed in Pravda.

ROARING

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Apr 30 16:27:11 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Grand concourse on Mon Apr 30 00:39:27 2007.

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No, I am not saying I want to fight them, because they will most likely win, but if they try to do something, I need to talk to a few contacts.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:34:33 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Sun Apr 29 21:41:32 2007.

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Thats the case with most cops.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 30 16:35:29 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by LA Blue Line on Sun Apr 29 21:15:09 2007.

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"Who told you to put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on!"

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:38:26 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 29 22:00:00 2007.

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I think he's talking about when it comes to taking pics.


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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:40:59 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by J trainloco on Sun Apr 29 22:42:15 2007.

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NO

At least out here it's vice versa.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:45:56 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 03:53:29 2007.

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Thats not true.

Maybe you have bad hearing.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 30 16:46:50 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 03:53:29 2007.

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B7 you.

Why?


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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 30 16:47:18 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 30 04:08:40 2007.

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Like most trolls deny they're trolls

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 30 17:18:36 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 08:58:18 2007.

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Attempted murder, sure, but wouldnt it be hard to prove that you actually killed them?

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Transit Guy on Mon Apr 30 17:22:12 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:34:33 2007.

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Thanks.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 30 17:22:39 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 08:58:18 2007.

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But what if there was a safety net under the 7th floor that would have saved his life and he was accidentally shot by a guy who often threatened his wife with an empty gun that had been secretly loaded by his son who later regretted his act and thus jumped off the top of the skyscraper just before he was shot?

I think that was a question on a law school exam of some sort.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 30 17:22:42 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 30 09:26:12 2007.

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LOL!

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 30 17:24:12 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 30 17:22:39 2007.

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And what if there was a safety handhold he could have grabbed for on the eighth floor, but just then a voluptuous woman distracted him by waving her bare breasts at him and blowing him a kiss, so he missed the handhold and fell to his death?

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 17:24:28 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 08:58:18 2007.

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That would be called "Killing someone to death".

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Transit Guy on Mon Apr 30 17:26:08 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 08:17:28 2007.

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Ok thanks for restating what I said, the fact (or at least my opinion (which I'm entitled to)) is most/some/there/ choose whatever word you want they(cops) are pigs. I'm no criminal, and myself and many others can say this.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Transit Guy on Mon Apr 30 17:33:20 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Apr 29 22:40:56 2007.

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"I have notches on my nightstick from people like you."

Oh thats nice, good for you, besides I'm not one of those "people". How long ago did you retire or are you still in the department (I would say times have changed if anything), I mean I simply stated an opinion and I apologize if that offends you but thats what I think.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 17:37:10 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Transit Guy on Mon Apr 30 17:33:20 2007.

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Times change, but the mentality remains the same.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by error46146 on Mon Apr 30 17:39:32 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by FarRock on Mon Apr 30 16:40:59 2007.

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correct

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 30 18:39:11 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 30 17:24:12 2007.

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but just then a voluptuous woman distracted him by waving her bare breasts at him and blowing him a kiss, so he missed the handhold and fell to his death?

Now if only a News crew was there... Film at 11...

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BIE on Mon Apr 30 19:16:36 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Apr 30 08:22:09 2007.

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So that is what happened to you.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BIE on Mon Apr 30 19:17:51 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Sun Apr 29 20:59:26 2007.

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He sets off their radar.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BIE on Mon Apr 30 19:20:58 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by zdeno on Sun Apr 29 22:29:09 2007.

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Just because you work for MTA as either a Police Officer or Property Protection doesn't make you biased, does it.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BIE on Mon Apr 30 19:24:16 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 30 16:47:18 2007.

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Olog does not deny he's a troll. Google his handle.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Apr 30 19:37:37 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by BIE on Mon Apr 30 19:24:16 2007.

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True but he has said in posts that he is a troll in name only

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by mr_brian on Mon Apr 30 19:39:34 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Future Motorman on Mon Apr 30 04:08:31 2007.

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LOL

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Apr 30 19:41:23 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Future Motorman on Mon Apr 30 04:08:31 2007.

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Oh damn, that's so true! How about a positive and a negative?

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by mr_brian on Mon Apr 30 19:42:06 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Apr 30 19:41:23 2007.

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positive times negative = negative

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Apr 30 19:43:07 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by mr_brian on Mon Apr 30 19:42:06 2007.

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Then I should not rail fan with Nilet or error.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 30 19:51:48 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 30 10:15:49 2007.

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That should say "he would not hesitate to «accidentally» damage the camera". Just like the cop who said "You can't prove I deleted them. I don't even know how to work that camera."

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 30 19:57:08 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 30 19:51:48 2007.

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I think you're right that he did say accidentally.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 30 20:03:30 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 30 19:57:08 2007.

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He meant «intentionally» by saying that.

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Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 30 20:11:09 2007, in response to Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Apr 30 20:03:30 2007.

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Yes, I know. That's why I left it out in the first place.

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Cop Incident Update

Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 30 20:17:32 2007, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007.

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I've written a complaint letter for the CCRB. I have not yet sent it. It is currently undergoing editorial review by my father. (He's a lawyer.)

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