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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Andrew Kirschner on Fri Mar 30 13:08:25 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by SilverFox on Thu Mar 29 23:46:22 2007.

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Plans were also afoot to extend the line under Long Island Sound to Southeastern Connecticut or Rhode Island, Nantucket, Cape Cod, and Portland, Maine, before continuing north to Eastern Canada, Nova Scotia, and the rest of the Maritime Provinces, making the line a truly "International Express."

What? No Newfoundland?

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SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri Mar 30 13:35:47 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 11:33:03 2007.

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Okay?

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Fri Mar 30 13:36:50 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 11:45:24 2007.

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I'd prefer to hear Silver Fox's answer.

Maybe he's given up on yu0.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 13:46:21 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 12:43:29 2007.

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Oh man, I can't wait until 7:18 PM tonight.

And 7:21 PM Monday night.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 13:56:29 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 13:46:21 2007.

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Thank you for admitting that you are as dumb as Douce Man.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 14:16:09 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 13:56:29 2007.

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And you are the only Orthodox Jew I know that posts on Subchat up until 5 minutes before sundown. Most Orthodox Jews light Shabbos candles about 20-30 minutes before sundown, but you wait right up to the last minute before the sun sets.

< /Harry Beck reference>

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by mambomta on Fri Mar 30 14:23:18 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by NewLots#2 on Thu Mar 29 22:34:35 2007.

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I thought 76th st was going to be a local stop.

It was. That's a picture of 7th Ave(IIRC) photoshopped.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 14:23:39 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 14:16:09 2007.

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Most Orthodox Jews light Shabbos candles about 20-30 minutes before sundown

Incorrect.

And you are the only Orthodox Jew I know that posts on Subchat up until 5 minutes before sundown.

Considering that there are very few Orthodox Jews here, and also that there is nothing wrong with posting 5 minutes before sundown, I don't see what your point is.

You REALLY are as dumb as Douce Man.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Mar 30 14:23:42 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 14:16:09 2007.

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Nonsense. The custom is to light candles 18 (not 20-30) minutes before sunset, but lots of people routinely take full advantage of those 18 minutes.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 30 14:35:13 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 11:32:37 2007.

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I'll keep that in mind.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 30 14:45:28 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 12:43:29 2007.

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Ummm, your the one being jerked here. Douce pwns you once again, you just lack the ability to see it. haha

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 30 15:19:23 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Mar 30 14:45:28 2007.

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From where I'm sitting, it looks like Douce is the one who got pwned.

I do see what you're saying: Douce was mocking Terrapin's common action of asking people where they got their info from. But it didn't come across that way to me!

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 16:50:34 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 30 15:19:23 2007.

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Exactly.

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Re: SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 17:21:25 2007, in response to SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Fri Mar 30 13:35:47 2007.

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Is it too much to say who is Joe King?

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 17:26:43 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 30 15:19:23 2007.

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I keep asking where did Adam or Silver Fox got his infomation from?


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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 17:27:57 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 11:40:25 2007.

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When J trainloco gets his sense of humor, ask him if you can borrow some.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 18:02:09 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 12:11:11 2007.

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way to go,Whineburger..

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 18:03:58 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 12:18:01 2007.

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LOL....!

I Know what you're doing..

Funny stuff.

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Re::::::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 18:15:09 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 18:03:58 2007.

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When Adam says he was pulling an early April Fool's Prank,
that'll be the end of my posting on this thread.
Until then I'll just get Brian pissed off.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:28:56 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 17:26:43 2007.

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Right, because you aren't that bright and you won't listen to the rest of us.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:29:36 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 17:27:57 2007.

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Nope. SilverFox's posts weren't funny. And they weren't meant to be.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:02 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 18:02:09 2007.

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Way to go, big breast man.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:44 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 18:03:58 2007.

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Um, no, now you've been fooled as well. I can't believe the idiots we have in here...

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Mar 30 18:30:51 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:02 2007.

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WTF!? He has big boobies?

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:31:42 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Mar 30 18:30:51 2007.

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No, his wife has one "BIG BREAST!" He posted that a while back.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Mar 30 18:32:21 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:31:42 2007.

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One?

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 18:34:17 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:29:36 2007.

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And I thought Silver Fox was attempting to be serious.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Mar 30 18:50:49 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:44 2007.

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That only makes you a jackass!

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:25:35 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 18:34:17 2007.

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Which is why it's so funny.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 30 20:43:17 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 11:56:28 2007.

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I was amused and still am by the fallout effect. I laugh all the time when I visit here. I really do! It's better than cable!

your pal,
Fred

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:45:37 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 30 20:43:17 2007.

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There are a LOT of people on here who really need to get laid more often.

/blunt

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 21:04:37 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by TunnelRat on Thu Mar 29 21:34:48 2007.

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Do you remember which issue it was. These days the term "recent" when applied to Headlights can mean many different things.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 21:06:51 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Mar 29 20:26:55 2007.

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I never posted any maps or attachments on subchat. Could you give me some idea about how to do it and I'll gladly try.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 22:06:34 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 21:06:51 2007.

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This should be a copy of the map I was talking about.


[IMG]http://i5.tinypic.com/40lj8yq.jpg[/IMG]



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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Russ on Fri Mar 30 22:25:05 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by randyo on Fri Mar 30 22:06:34 2007.

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Here you go...



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R-11 the first transcontinental subway car? was Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by NewLots#2 on Fri Mar 30 23:11:03 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by mambomta on Fri Mar 30 14:23:18 2007.

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I heard the R-11s were originally built as double beth sleepers for the trip through the montauk to london tubes on the "A" train. Is that true? I guess the rebuild to R-34s got rid of all evidence of the first class accommodations.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:31:13 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:02 2007.

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AWWH.

dont be upset.

You can get some too!

Just make sure they put them on right.



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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:33:51 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:31:42 2007.

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No..I said your Mother WAS ONE BIG BEAST.

My wife is none of your business..unless your looking for problems.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:34:49 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Mar 30 18:32:21 2007.

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He's a dick so don't pay him any attention.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:39:57 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:30:44 2007.

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Unlike you,We understand Silverfox.

You on the other hand like to turn simple things like a JOKE into CONTROVERSY...

You are a fool..

What You did to this thread is unforgivable.
Any thread you particapate in is often turned into a flaming crap flinging fools jargon.

Take a break from here.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Mar 31 02:28:00 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 29 13:53:02 2007.

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From the article that appeared in TRAINORDERS.COM:

Long Lost Subway Tunnels are Found Throughout the Hamptons

By Dan Rattiner
(with a tip of the hat to Ron Stanchfield)

As most people know, the single most spectacular real estate development ever attempted on the East End was that of Carl G. Fisher. In the mid 1920s, he bought the entire peninsula of Montauk, 12,000 acres in all, and during the years between 1925 and 1929 began to build a great city in that community. The centerpiece of it, built on the downtown plaza he created in a field, was the seven-story building that continues to dominate this community to this day. But he also built a polo field, a race track, a yacht club, a gambling casino, a boardwalk and swim club, a 250 room hotel high on a hill it still stands as the Montauk Manor the entire network of roads in downtown Montauk, including pink sidewalks which survive in many areas, half a dozen downtown commercial buildings, two churches and an automobile racetrack. He also imported sheep and built a section for the help known as Shepherds Neck. (Still in existence.)

His intention from the get-go was to build a big beach resort city, similar to the one he had built in the early 1920s in Miami Beach. Among other things, he had recently been married for the third time, to a 16-year-old named Jane. These were heady times for millionaire Carl Fisher.

What has never been known until now is that while Carl Fisher and some of his wealthy friends were building Montauk (it failed in the crash of 29), there was a lesser known and very shady figure by the name of Ivan Kratz, a wealthy builder, who had designs on the creating a transportation monopoly for the Fisher project.

Ivan Kratz, between 1900 and 1925, had made millions by building the New York City Subway System. His work was good, but the way he went about securing contracts was crooked. In 1900, offering up a whole slew of bribes to New York City officials, he had bid high but got the contract to build the New York City Subway System. By paying notoriously low salaries to his workmen, he made huge amounts of money at both ends.

By 1924, however, he was under investigation as part of the Teapot Dome scandal. Amazingly, in 1928 when it came time to look for the money Kratz had made he was by this time the owner of a vast oceanfront mansion in East Hampton it all came up empty. Where had the money gone?

Last month, auctioneers selling the contents of the Kratz mansion only recently sold by his heirs came upon an extraordinary document. Copies of it were turned over to the Town of Southampton and the Town of East Hampton. And representatives of the New York State Department of Transportation had become involved.

Kratz, between 1925 and 1929, had secretly constructed an enormous underground subway system that he called the South Fork Subway. It has its main terminus right under the open plaza in downtown Montauk. And it is connected up to underground stations in Napeague, Amagansett, East Hampton, Bridgehampton, Southampton, Quogue and Westhampton Beach. There is a spur that goes up to Sag Harbor and North Haven, and another that goes up Three Mile Harbor Road in East Hampton and then splits off to end at Maidstone Park in Three Mile Harbor and Gerard Park at Accabonac Harbor.



At first, said Tom Larson of the NY State Department of Transportation, we thought that the subway map that had turned up at the auction was some kind of joke.

But then Town bulldozers from the two highway departments were brought in, and the first of the holes was dug the first just under the large and unused gas ball in Sag Harbor just behind the Post Office. In just four days of digging, the workmen uncovered twin platforms, two sets of rails including a third rail that went down into some dark tunnels, a ticket booth, some turnstiles and a flight of stairs that went up to a steel bilco door that had been covered up by grass. The Sag Harbor station for the G Train.

"We made three decisions", Larson said. "We agreed not to go public with whatever this was until we knew what it was, we agreed to send workmen in golf carts down the tunnels, and we agreed to remove the gas ball."

The gas ball was taken away, piece by piece, in May. And it was inaccurately announced, to throw people off, that the dig where the gas ball was had to do with some sort of underground pollution. Also, it might be necessary to remove some commercial buildings in the area. Indeed, the state is already in negotiations to condemn the first of those buildings.

"It's all in place," Larson said at the press conference. His eyes welled up with tears. "The whole thing. We've been through it from end to end. And it's all there. It has the same white ceramic tiles on the walls that they have in the New York Subway. The names of all the stations in blue tiles. There are eighteen stations. And all we have to do to make this whole thing operational is bring in a modern air exchange system to the tunnels, build some escalators to get down to the platforms to bring this up to code "there were no escalators in use in subways until the 1940s although they surely had them and bring in some subway cars. The track gauge is also from the New York Subway. In fact, we believe that all these materials were FROM the New York Subway system. Stuff supposedly stolen by Kratz and brought out here. It's all amazing. And it is an answer to our prayers. The transportation nightmare in the Hamptons is over."

Someone asked the locations of all the underground subway stations and he told them. There is one under the parking lot at the Montauk Lighthouse, there is one under the crossroads of Flamingo Road and Westlake Drive at the fishing village there, there is one on Ditch Plains Road where it makes the ninety degree turn to the left, there is one under the Kirk Park Beach parking lot in downtown Montauk named Montauk Beach which is what Carl Fisher called the place, there is one just under the Montauk Railroad Station, another behind the restaurant called LUNCH on the Napeague Strip, one at the corner of Montauk Highway and Napeague Lane in Beach Hampton and one in the Amagansett parking lot by the Amagansett railroad station.

Other locations heading further west include under the intersection of Further Lane and Egypt Lane in East Hampton, under the Main Beach parking lot in East Hampton, under the parking lot at South Ferry in North Haven, under the old Alison By the Beach restaurant on Route 27 and Town Line Road, under the Bridgehampton Railroad Station, under Cromer's Market on Noyac Road, under the field in back of Corrigan's Service Station at Hayground Road and the Montauk Highway in Water Mill, under the village green in Water Mill, under the back parking lot of the Princess Diner at Hampton Road and County Road 39 in Southampton, under a lot adjacent to the Sandpiper Motel in Shinnecock, under the street in front of the Blue Moon Caf in East Quogue, at the corner of Lewis Road and Route 27A in East Quogue and under two different locations along Jessup Avenue in Quogue, one at the corner of Flowers By Lori at Midland, and the other at Jessup and Quogue Street in front of Q Restaurant. In Westhampton Beach, there is a subway stop at the corner of Sunset and Main in front of Lucille's Beach Barn.

"We don't know why a station was not built in Hampton Bays", Larsen said. "Members of the Kratz family say that their grandfather once complained about a yacht he bought in Hampton Bays from a marina owner that sprang a leak and sank. That we think might be as good a reason as any. Anyway, if we get all this together, we think we will probably put in a Hampton Bays stop."

A reporter asked Larson who will be in charge of restoring the system.

"I am pleased to announce today that Governor Pataki has created a Hamptons Transportation Authority, with a base funding of ten million dollars. We will go from there."

A reporter asked if Peter Kalikow, who heads the Port Authority in New York and has a home in Montauk, might be interested in the job.

"It's possible," Larsen said.

Another reporter asked if Carl Fisher himself, who had an excellent and above board reputation, had been involved in this.

"We have dug deep in the Fisher archives," Larsen said. "Apparently he thought it was some kind of drainage subcontractor. He seems to have been aware of it, but that was about it. He was a big picture sort of guy."


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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by SilverFox on Sat Mar 31 04:50:57 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 11:01:15 2007.

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I thank you for wanting to discuss this matter at further length despite all of the voices around you stating you are being duped, or that you are stupid, naive, or gullible. All that counts is what YOUR own due diligence and sense of logic concludes, and I will be all too happy to further my case.

My first post dealt with a line to Montauk being planned from the extant stub tracks east of Euclid Avenue through the completed 76th Street station, and eventually onward to connect with the East End Subway which was built, never used, and eventually abandoned.

My second post showed how such a line, if allowed to be completed, would have set the perfect stage for a cross-Sound tunnel that would eventually have led to Maine and many points in Canada, bringing an untold boon to the corridor.

Not only were the civilian governments along the right-of-way keenly interested in public transport through their jurisdictions, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was champing at the bit over the prospects of using all that excavated sand, silt, and rock from the cross-Sound tunnel project to build an archipelago of artificial islands similar to those used in the building of the Rockaway Line in order to create enough isolated land for top-secret military projects as well as anchorages for the much-talked-about cross-Sound automobile bridge project from Orient and/or Montauk Point to southern New England.

It is such a perfect symbiotic mesh: The tunnel would be built to accommodate rolling and continuous short-stretch traffic while the byproducts of its construction would be used to provide more land and better transportation options for those wishing to travel longer distances. The surface facet need not even include a bridge. It could remain at surface level about ten or so feet above sea level and include lanes for automobiles, commercial traffic, and even LIRR tracks taking trains into an intermodal (bus/boat/rail) transportation terminal somewhere along the New England coastline, streamlining transportation efficiency better than the patchwork system in place now.

So where did I get my facts from? They weren't facts as much as deductions. You see, I have shown how everything interconnects above. There were clues scattered about that had to come together some way. Euclid Avenue's tracks extended past 76th Street to be connected to a line that went to at least the City Line. The East End Subway was built in anticipation of the Queens line's eastward march to eventually meet it in Shirley after jurisdictional issues were ironed out. The best way to fund an overwater bridge requiring tons and tons of fill for anchorages is to build something that produces fill -- like a tunnel -- which reduces overall costs of both projects. After all, waste not, want not. A side benefit is additional land for other uses beside bridge anchorages; in this case, military experiments.

Since the line past 76th Street was never built, the East End Line became vestigial and too sparsely populated to offer any return on running trains on it, the cross-Sound tunnel plans were abandoned, and to this day we have no cross-Sound bridge.

I hope this analysis lays any doubts to rest.


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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by SilverFox on Sat Mar 31 04:52:39 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Andrew Kirschner on Fri Mar 30 13:08:25 2007.

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. . . and the rest of the Maritime Provinces . . .

Of which Newfoundland is one.


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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by SilverFox on Sat Mar 31 04:54:41 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by BMTLines on Sat Mar 31 02:28:00 2007.

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AHA! Now I remember where I read that.

It was posted here some time ago and the whole concept just rattled around in my mind until I came to put all the pieces together as I hvae here.

Thanks for the reference. I knew I didn't make that East End Subway stuff up.


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Re: SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:16:09 2007, in response to Re: SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 17:21:25 2007.

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Silver Fox.

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Re: SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Mar 31 07:26:41 2007, in response to Re: SILVER FOX WAS JOE KING Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:16:09 2007.

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I thought his name was Adam.

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Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:28:08 2007, in response to Re: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 30 18:31:42 2007.

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No, his wife has one "BIG BREAST!" He posted that a while back.

Women like that were fearsome in the ancient world...

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Re::::::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:28:39 2007, in response to Re::::::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 30 18:15:09 2007.

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Yawn.

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:30:58 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 30 23:39:57 2007.

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Can't you tell the difference between

Posted by daDouce Man

and

Posted by Terrapin Station

?

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Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave

Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 31 07:31:41 2007, in response to Re::: Tracks beyond Euclid Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 30 20:45:37 2007.

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What is the source of that comment?

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