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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 12:46:38 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 22 20:04:15 2007. He wouldn't need to, had he opened up the correct side. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 12:53:11 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 15:43:35 2007. Oh, come on. You sure you weren't just falling all over yourself thanks to all that partying you pride yourself in engaging in?WTF are you talking about? What partying? Besides I would have been SEVEN or EIGHT years old at the time this happened - it was on a pre-1967 "T". How about reading the part that it was a D-Type or Standard in REVENUE SERVICE! You really are clueless!! |
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Posted by gbs on Fri Mar 23 13:01:03 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 12:40:49 2007. As it happened, that evening the elevator to the Manhattan-bound platform was out of service. (I had time to check it out....) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:02:31 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 15:44:12 2007. You also support China to the detriment of the USA. How is your word credible?What does that have to do with his experience on the NY subway? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:02:45 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 12:53:11 2007. Besides I would have been SEVEN or EIGHT years old at the time this happenedDrew Barrymore was partying at that age. How about reading the part that it was a D-Type or Standard in REVENUE SERVICE So? Doesn't mean that there weren't mechanical problems. Stop trying to turn conductors into the NKVD. You really are clueless I'm not the one running to the commies so I can take bad pix of subway trains. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 13:06:43 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:02:31 2007. It's not even true. I hate China, I'm just not obsessed with them. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:09:50 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:02:45 2007. Drew Barrymore was partying at that age.Cool - now what does that have to do with anything? So? Doesn't mean that there weren't mechanical problems. Stop trying to turn conductors into the NKVD. Your name fits you very well - TROLL - you are the one that states errors like this can NEVER happen whether they are human or mechanical. My example, albeit different, was just to show that the experience recounted in this thread is quite plausible. I'm not the one running to the commies so I can take bad pix of subway trains. Damn straight!!! I don't give up my rights like you do!!! Now go back to your cave.... |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:11:38 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 13:06:43 2007. Olog is still fighting the cold war!!! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:22:22 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:02:31 2007. More than you realize. His support of China affects his relationship to the NYCTA labor force. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:22:48 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 13:06:43 2007. You love China, to the degree that you deny what they really are. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:23:23 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by BMTLines on Fri Mar 23 13:11:38 2007. Thou art burnt. The Cold War was with Soviet Russia. |
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Posted by JRice on Fri Mar 23 13:46:14 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:23:23 2007. Are you serious? All tht dinking around in Southeast Asia was because we were so close and chummy with China? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 13:55:17 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:22:48 2007. You're an idiot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:58:42 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 13:55:17 2007. Keep denying the truth about China. (That bit of name-calling means that you know I'm right.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 14:03:06 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:58:42 2007. What truth? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 14:04:43 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 14:03:06 2007. Stop denying. You know my position on China per what I posted in OTchat. |
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Re: It Could Happen- re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:05:03 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. It seems plausible. I've seen this exact same occurrence happen. It's all too easy for a conductor to commit this type of error when in the middle track of a three track line.Some years ago, a weekend GO had express-only service on the Flushing-bound 7. So only the inbound platforms at Junction and 61-Woodside were open, with outbound trains using the middle track. One outbound conductor must've been too accutomed to opening the doors on the right-hand side- i.e. the outbound platform- at Woodside. This left a load of passengers onto a closed platform with taped off stairways. Of course, it was a simple matter to break the tape. While this incident posed no danger, it's still an inconvenience to those trying to board the train. Maybe not as much of an inconvenience as a conductor who this past summer failed to open the doors of an outbound 7 stopped at QBP. But you can't blame people who wait in good faith at the proper location for being angry about a train that failed to open its doors as its supposed to. And at 8:30, headways are a lot longer than during the heart of the rush hour. Maybe someone headed to Flushing had to catch a bus from there. Being denied their scheduled train could cause them to miss their bus connection. And at 8:30, that could have great consequences. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 14:06:21 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 14:04:43 2007. Perhaps you don't understand mine. I dislike China. They're a totalitarian state. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 14:07:20 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 14:06:21 2007. You don't dislike them enough. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 14:07:52 2007, in response to Re: It Could Happen- re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:05:03 2007. That's a much more understandable scenerio, opening the doors on the RIGHT platform instead of the WRONG one due to a G.O. I wouldn't go apeshit over that happening. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:11:09 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:16:50 2007. Good for you! Since this service pattern was implemented, it seems like most conductors will only announce local vs. express at Grand Central, the Plaza and Woodside itself. Sometimes 45-CH. Mostly it's just "7 to Flushing" and the next stop. If door crowding of confused passengers persists, they'll sometimes get the hint and say whether it's local or express.Come to think of it, even under the original pattern of outbound express service after the Plaza, there are still too many conductors who don't make the proper announcement. "7 to Flushing, Vernjax next, watchaclozindaws." Yes, someone needing one or the other COULD board the train and transfer at the point of demarcation if necessary. But that shouldn't be necessary, especially if the weather is bad or if it means giving up a seat. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Mar 23 14:12:33 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 22 15:08:39 2007. I remember boarding an R-32 D train from the center platform once. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:20:58 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 03:20:35 2007. Experience dictates telling a TA employee of an error or hazardous condition is met with utter indifference. Many years ago, an outbound 7 express failed to open its doors while stopped at Shea Stadium. Even though I had no intention of getting off there, I mentioned this to the conductor while disembarking at Main.The conductor, rather brusquely, said that if I wanted to get off at Shea to take the train back one stop. When I told him I didn't personally want to get off, but noticed that the doors didn't open, he took the well-what-do-YOU-care-if-it-doesn't-affect-you tack. The people in the tower had the same attitude. As for hazardous conditions, a few weeks ago while boarding an outbound 7 at Times Square, I noticed a large rolling valise sitting in the middle of the empty rear car. Given the implausibility of someone honestly forgetting such a large piece of luggage, my paranoid instincts kicked in. So I pointed it out to a C/R and P/O on the platform. They didn't seem to care in the least. The C/R said he didn't want to risk screwing up service and having people bitch about it. The P/O said I should turn it into Lost and Found. I declined to board that train, and half-expected to hear about- and be delayed by- a bomb explosion down the line. Happily, this didn't happen. Remember: if you see something, say something, right? |
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Posted by IRT/O on Fri Mar 23 14:53:01 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened wrong side, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:20:58 2007. So why didn't you get the P/O badge # and report him? |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 23 15:14:20 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 13:22:22 2007. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are really funny! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 15:15:51 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 23 15:14:20 2007. Thanks, but I'm serious to a point. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 23 15:19:11 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened wrong side, posted by IRT/O on Fri Mar 23 14:53:01 2007. Maybe that luggage was part of a sting? Otherwise that was sure a poor way to handle that situation. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Mar 23 15:20:49 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened wrong side, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Mar 23 14:20:58 2007. I think employees are just tired of delays from hoax packages. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Mar 23 15:47:10 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened wrong side, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 23 15:19:11 2007. Most likely part of their "LUCKY BAG" sting operation..Its entrapment for sure..but they DON'T think it is. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 23 16:23:31 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by error46146 on Thu Mar 22 20:11:06 2007. So what happens with opening doors in that situation? |
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Posted by error46146 on Fri Mar 23 16:26:36 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 23 16:23:31 2007. The conductor still opened the doors as normal, but then nobody exited from the 2 doors that opened at the gate. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 23 16:40:08 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by error46146 on Fri Mar 23 16:26:36 2007. Good thinking on their part!I've been on only one train out here that overshot the platform. It was definitely the T/O's fault because he had been noticeably hauling ass into the stations leading up to this one. His operation was so different that I wondered if he were operating under the influence. He calmed way down after overshooting the platform. He went from one extreme to the other. Maybe he was just new? |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri Mar 23 17:06:31 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Mar 22 21:55:21 2007. You have to laugh at yourself once in a while. Even Ron is no exception… |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 23 18:15:31 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 23 12:46:38 2007. True, but as I said, he probably didn't even hear any commotion (if any) on the other side of the train. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 19:56:43 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Mar 23 12:32:52 2007. The only thing less likely to work than an arnine air nut was one of them arten jobbies ... they didn't even TRY to cut those outside of the yards because it was usually a lost cause. There was a guy at 179th though who was known throughout the system as being able to coax arnines apart without having to get down and dirty ... but once the "dog" gets rusty, it's pretty much all over ... |
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Posted by Dan on Fri Mar 23 20:11:11 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:19:57 2007. How far do you think the MTA would or could go to trace back a post to an MTA employee?? |
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Posted by error46146 on Fri Mar 23 20:21:55 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Mar 21 22:49:37 2007. What does upside down A mean? |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Fri Mar 23 20:57:41 2007, in response to Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 13:03:52 2007. Concept is that T/O and Conductor act as a crew with T/O engaging 'door enabler' as 'observer.' Door enabler is part of R142 OPTO system which has more than once opened the doors on the wrong side.....human error (it's logged in computer!)Thre HAD been plans to equip all DC trainsets with 'door enabler controls' but cheaper to force T/O and Conductor to 'stick their heads out.' One Conductor was found unconcious after meeting a sock full of coins....another died striking a fence at the end of a platform elected for construction work. Two items of note: Redbirds could engage 'indication' with a large object trapped in door by passenger jogging (PSS) and R142s can 'lock-pin' doors upon clothing engaging 'indication.' CREW OBSERVANCE IS THE RULE. RRCI Pet |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 21:15:17 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Dan on Fri Mar 23 20:11:11 2007. All depends on the situation and who got grumpy. I'm sure some others can fill you in on their own "interactions" ... but there have been times when someone wrote something here about a particular train and TSS's were dispatched to hunt down the culprit and when they couldn't find the particular "perp" made life hell for everyone up and down the line. I've had my own run-ins over some things that were said prior to and during the strike, and of course one of my favorites was when I'd posted on subtalk back in 2001 about getting to run a set of 143's that were still Kawasaki's property on the Canarsie line on Christmas eve. The chit didn't end until I produced a letter from Larry Reuter and the Governor's office approving the joyride "under necessary supervision." But BOY were some of the underlords of the UFO *honked* over that one. Heh. |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri Mar 23 22:36:52 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 09:38:16 2007. Although I am of the opinion that Bruno is going to get his just desserts, isn’t he a product of the system?Campaigning for office is absurdly expensive. Unless you’re a Bloomberg or a Corzine, you need money from elsewhere. The elsewhere now means prostituting yourself to a variety of causes, which means that you are beholden to them when you get to office. I am firmly a believer in some sort of rationalization of campaign spending: 1) There should be a reasonable barrier to getting on the ballot in the first place. You should have to convince some people that you are fit to stand. (Of course, New York has taken this to quite unreasonable lengths…) 2) Once on the ballot, you have a fixed amount of public money to use for your campaign. I believe that broadcast TV/Radio stations should have to make a certain number of advertisement slots available for election candidates as part of their licence conditions. 3) Within a certain period, election advertising by third parties should be banned. I know there is the First Amendment, but we have already accepted restrictions on free speech in other areas. After all, why can’t I express my overwhelming support of a given candidate by voting for him 200 times? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 23:30:05 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by JohnL on Fri Mar 23 22:36:52 2007. The one thing I've learned having done the political life is that those who WANT to run for office shouldn't be elected. And anyone who would do the right thing for the population isn't insane enough to run.I have a better idea. No more elections, take every citizen, enter them in a lottery and if your name is picked, you HAVE to serve ... just like jury duty. :) |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Mar 24 07:15:57 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 21:15:17 2007. VERY believableguess you got thru it okay |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 24 07:58:54 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by JohnL on Fri Mar 23 22:36:52 2007.  3) Within a certain period, election advertising by third parties should be banned. I know there is the First Amendment, but we have already accepted restrictions on free speech in other areas. As in, candidates who manage to get on the ballot can advertise if they belong to the Democratic or Republican parties, but can't if they belong to third parties? I don't quite get this. A better thing to do would be to ban all political advertising and campaigning; give each candidate a questionaire about their positions on various issues, include a spot for them to state positions on issues not included on the questionaire, and if the candidate is an incumbent or has held a different political office before, then provide a concise voting record to show whether or not they have actually promoted the causes they say they stand for. The results, detailing every candidates positions and whether they keep their word on those positions, would be published. I wonder if we'd get a third-party President if the advertising and mud-slinging were turned off... |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 24 11:24:47 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Mar 22 13:41:45 2007. Another Internet Diagnosis by RonNOTinBayside.Get thee to OTChat and stop polluting the SubChat board. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 24 11:49:15 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Mar 23 23:30:05 2007. "Just like jury duty".Come on down to Baltimore town, where the Circuit Court calls 900+ for Jury Duty every day in the hope 450 souls will show up and do their civic duty. Required Rail content: A funny thing has been happening on the Light Rail here. The MTA built a 3 track station at Texas Station, but it's never been opened as a passenger station due to a power (for lights and TVMs) and parking problem that has never been solved. It is used to turn back Timonium-BWI trains (they go OOS at Timonium, change ends, go back to Timonium and go in service. The funny thing that has been happening only happens with two car trains and several times in the last few months, when the operator changes ends at Texas Station and opens the second car (which becomes the lead car when the train heads south), the operator discovers 3 or 4 people sitting in the car, looking somewhat surprised. Apparently those people deserve the Not Paying Attention Award, as it's always announced at Timonium "This is the last stop." The operators always take them back to Timonium and let the off. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 24 11:51:56 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 24 11:49:15 2007. Heh. Every time I've observed that phenom, I've quietly said to myself "Thank GOD they don't own a CAR!" Sometimes ya needs to remind yerself of that when you change ends in the relay. (grin) |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Mar 24 12:30:54 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 24 07:58:54 2007. Third party: anyone not on the ballot. Ie all the “issue advertising” that pollutes the airwaves.…give each candidate a questionaire about their positions on various issues, include a spot for them to state positions on issues not included on the questionaire, and if the candidate is an incumbent or has held a different political office before, then provide a concise voting record to show whether or not they have actually promoted the causes they say they stand for. The results, detailing every candidates positions and whether they keep their word on those positions, would be published… It’s called a manifesto. Parties in other countries actually write and publish these. Unfortunately, since they require an attention span of longer than a minute, nobody reads them. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Mar 24 14:12:49 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 23 14:07:20 2007. You want us to nuke them back to the Stone Age? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 24 16:19:02 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by JohnL on Sat Mar 24 12:30:54 2007. It’s called a manifesto. Parties in other countries actually write and publish these. Unfortunately, since they require an attention span of longer than a minute, nobody reads them.Too true. But at least there's hope for Britain - according to today's Times 58% (up 8% from before the budget) think Gordon Brown would be a bad PM, whilst 30% (down 10% from before the budget) think he'd be a good one. And given that the ABC1s and voters in the Midlands and South-East are the most anti-Brown, and Brown's just given a "screw the poor without anyone noticing any benefit" budget, there's only one way that rating's going... Maybe the Labour Party will come to its senses and elect a leader who will actually give us a choice at the next election, rather than committing suicide and gifting it to David Cameron. |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Mar 24 16:23:19 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 24 16:19:02 2007. I just hope the next PM tells the NAZI bu$h to loes his own war. |
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