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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:38:26 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Easy on Wed Mar 21 23:19:29 2007. I've been contacted here and there for things I've said ... and asked if I could identify others. But nobody was willing to cut me a check. :) |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Jeromeline on Thu Mar 22 00:07:41 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 21 17:35:25 2007. What about Indoors and Outdoors?? |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:42:07 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Russ on Wed Mar 21 20:03:15 2007. I don't consider endangering the lives of passengers to be an honest mistakeWho could've gotten killed by it? |
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GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:45:55 2007. JMHO. How come nobody else reported this? Of course he's a troll.Conductors are not that dumb on the MTA. I've never encountered anything of the sort while on the subway. How would it be that even this would get by the motorman?—and don't tell me that he wouldn't say something to the conductor. |
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Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:46:13 2007, in response to Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 13:03:52 2007. We don't suffer trolls and/or rats gladly. Come clean and tell the truth. Even if the conductor messed up, the motorman would have caught it and done something about it. A thousand hands banging on the correct side of the train would have gotten the conductor's attention, to boot.You ain't fooling anyone. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 22 01:52:53 2007, in response to Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 13:03:52 2007. Poor baby, you missed the train. How long did you have to wait for the next express? Did you pass up a local while you were at it? What is the difference in running time on a local vs. an express from Junction Blvd. to Main St.? One minute, maybe two? You weren't satisfied in reporting the incident to the dispatcher, you had to E Mail MTA too? Sounds like double jeopardy to me. Listen to me good: the conductor made a mistake. A rookie mistake. Passenger safety was never jeopardised. The train was fully berthed in the station. It wasn't as if the conductor opened up on the street side. What kind of punishment do you want taken? Suspension? Oh yeah, I bet you have never made a mistake at your job! |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:53:33 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 22 01:52:53 2007. Don't buy the BS. Too many holes in his story. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 01:58:30 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:53:33 2007. I believe him. Sounds like it could easily happen. We'll have to wait and see if he replies I guess. |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by IRT/O on Thu Mar 22 02:04:54 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. He wouldn't say anything to the C/R. Why should he say something. Even if he noticed. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 02:06:30 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 22 01:58:30 2007. I believe himYou have a habit of believing the wr0ng0s. So many holes in his BS story it ain't funny. Sounds like it could easily happen Oh, come on. This is NYC we're talking about here. Passengers would be pounding on the doors and windows; and the motorman ain't blind, and certainly both motorman and conductor wouldn't be both blind and deaf. |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 02:07:29 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by IRT/O on Thu Mar 22 02:04:54 2007. Why shouldn't he? And how would you not notice a whole bunch of pax waiting for your train and standing next to it? |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by IRT/O on Thu Mar 22 02:45:55 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 02:07:29 2007. Most people in the first couple of cars are going to main st. T/Os eyes should be on the road ahead, not the geese behind. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Thu Mar 22 03:16:50 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Zman179 on Wed Mar 21 19:36:27 2007. Now thats the question of the day. However the # 7 Line is a cry baby line so you can't get away with much and most likely a few people did complain.This all makes me think about how nice it is to work in a tower getting away from these situations. I may give up my handles by the end of the month to push and pull levers. |
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Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Mar 22 03:20:35 2007, in response to Re: Conductor probably didn't open the wrong side, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:46:13 2007. A thousand hands banging on the correct side of the train would have gotten the conductor's attention, to boot.Nope. In a single cab, with the door closed, you're not hearing or seeing ANYTHING from the other side of the train. Trust me. What's more surprising is that, if the story is true, none of the customers exiting the train said anything to the C/R about it. |
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Re: Question for Railman |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Thu Mar 22 03:29:38 2007, in response to Re: Question for Railman, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:16:21 2007. Its alot harder some of our C/R's who went to T/O School car failed out and are back in the middle taking there fustration out on an Extra List T/O that gets assigned to them. I can't blame them. The way I look at RTO school car now its designed for failure. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Thu Mar 22 03:57:35 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Zman179 on Wed Mar 21 20:28:44 2007. its already been done to 2 members of this board by a cheese eater. |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 04:11:33 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by IRT/O on Thu Mar 22 02:45:55 2007. Precisely! Conductors don't have to worry about whether that ball is going to drop for you, whether you can reach the punch and numerous other things. Based on what I've read, the CR had zebras, did the fickle finger of fate, keyed and opened up. Wrong side? My bet is that they didn't know their line and made biggie mistake. They'll get yelled at (since the OP said they banged them in long before posting the drama here) and get a little tick mark in case it ever happens again.On the older cars, you could hear the doors move in the cab. The newer ones though I've noticed are extremely quiet. I've pulled into 59/CC and had a conductor open wrong side there ... you could HEAR it. BUZZ BUZZ and BUZZ usually got their attention. Newer trains had PA's though they usually figured it out on their own without help. But as I was always fond of saying (and you tickled me with your own comment) "what's BEHIND this cab don't matter ... do I see a pair of yellow lanterns up there?" :) |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 04:18:17 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 02:06:30 2007. I'd say it's POSSIBLE unless discredited. When I moved up front, we had a lot of short timers on board and I've had conductors open up while stopped before the car marker at an ST that failed to drop for me with 2-3 cars out, I've had wrong platform opens happen to. Spit does happen. Fortunately, this event as described wasn't one that put anyone in harm's way as could and occasionally does happen.As others who've done it for a while will tell you - sometimes folks can zone themselves out. It's a very BORING job seeing the same "sights" day after day and God BLESS those who can do it, and do it properly EVERY time ... and show up for work the next day to do it all again. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 04:20:48 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Thu Mar 22 03:16:50 2007. DAYUM!You're doing that railroad like sheet through a goose! Heh. So when are yas going out for TSS? Shall I get you a clipboard for Kissmoose? :) |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Parkchester Local on Thu Mar 22 04:20:57 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Mar 21 18:35:28 2007. Junction not Willets |
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Re: Question for Railman |
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Posted by Parkchester Local on Thu Mar 22 04:26:50 2007, in response to Re: Question for Railman, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:16:21 2007. To quote a TSS: "... with that July class it was like we hit a glass wall with the OC list... straight from good to damn f'ing stupid..." |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 04:34:11 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by error46146 on Wed Mar 21 20:05:55 2007. geez, ya think? |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response to the RAT |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 04:35:42 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 15:49:59 2007. Yes, very ratlike. IAWTP |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response to the RAT |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 04:37:11 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by IRT/O on Wed Mar 21 16:49:27 2007. Agreed, no one was hurt. Just move on. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 05:17:39 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:38:26 2007. They pay me 75K a year just to ID people on this site. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 05:19:44 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:44:27 2007. TA employees salaries are a matter of public record. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 05:24:37 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 05:17:39 2007. Heh. I woulda banged 'em in for less. :)Nah ... spent too many years in Cybill Cervix to know they don't HAVE a form for "pay a rat." They want it for FREE and love to remind you that you still have a retirement they can get at. So I gave them D'Amato's home phone number and they went away. Heh. |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 05:29:16 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. Takes a troll to know a troll, huh?Most people cannot be bothered complaining to large government bureaucracies. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Mar 22 06:24:35 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 04:18:17 2007. Kev & Bill, Your prove your point. Everybody stop bitching. Spit happens. Nobody fell out of the train. |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Mar 22 06:47:28 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Mar 21 22:46:09 2007. Three toots, and back they go. We don't have express stops on that line. We have "All Stops ", "A" stops , and "B" stops. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Thu Mar 22 07:19:45 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:38:26 2007. I've been contacted here and there for things I've said ... and asked if I could identify others.Maybe you could identify the Teeyay's spies though. Go on, publish their names. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:42:16 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 05:19:44 2007. That wasnt my whole post...This is.. "A Bombardier employee would not post here a list of other employeess' salaries or social security numbers. It's common sense." You are right i can understand that but this kinda puzzles me here.. You mean like the same way a poster posted our salaries(with rasies for all titles) right? Or how sensititve information concerning V/R people was posted on the MTA website for all to see too? Is that common sense? Humor me here Ron... Just my take on things.. As for public record where can i go on my computer and find this out? Nyc.gov perhaps? |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:45:59 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. All i have to do is ask the PM TSS at Main Street this Monday if a C/R had a "uh-oh" at Junction Blvd he will tell me..Then again perhaps this DID happen and he didnt tell anybody? Ever thought of that people? |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:50:12 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:42:16 2007. As far as the V/R thing goes, you'd have toa ask the MTA. Since it was posted on their website.The salsry of ANYONE who works for a government agency is a matter of public record. Newspapers publish this info all the time. As to a specific website to go to, I wouldn't know. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:55:52 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:50:12 2007. 169,000 hits Doing a google search for "NY MTA emloyees salaries" |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:56:41 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:50:12 2007. I see, thanksWell i do know the only paper that published this was the Chief.. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:57:34 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 07:55:52 2007. Nothing yet huh? |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Mar 22 08:11:58 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:38:26 2007. I can say anything I want - don't work for them - never will!!!MTA Sucks!!! |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Mar 22 08:17:33 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Parkchester Local on Thu Mar 22 04:20:57 2007. My bad. I was thinking about the incident that happened to me. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by Alex L. on Thu Mar 22 08:36:54 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Russ on Wed Mar 21 20:34:56 2007. NAh. Most of them read it on a monitor. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 22 08:38:46 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:42:16 2007. You mean like the same way a poster posted our salaries(with rasies for all titles) right?<advocate client=beelzebub>No one ever posted specific employees' salaries. Only the top salaries for different titles were posted.</advocate> |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 08:43:21 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 22 08:38:46 2007. Thats what i meant, I didnt mean mines in gernal but my titles.The raises was posted here that i remember.I get the Chief as well and that came right out of the Chief.. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Alex L. on Thu Mar 22 08:46:39 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:53:52 2007. 
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 09:09:31 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 21:53:27 2007. haha..Is that what Westinghouses mother saw? |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Mar 22 09:15:34 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. Conductors are not that dumb on the MTA. I've never encountered anything of the sort while on the subway.Sorry but I did - I almost fell into Coney Island creek thanks to a conductor who opened the doors too soon. IIRC it was either on a D-Type or BMT Standard in regular service - long time ago so the conductor in question has long since retired or passed on... Cured me of the game I used to play which was to see if I could run out of the car before the door fully opened... |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 22 09:17:26 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by Railman718 on Thu Mar 22 07:42:16 2007. As for public record where can i go on my computer and find this out?Nyc.gov perhaps? Yes |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 22 09:17:37 2007, in response to Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by BMTLines on Thu Mar 22 09:15:34 2007. This guy didn't open "doors too soon". They opened at the right time, on a fully functioning platform (that just happened to be the wrong one). No safety issues here at all. He probably even followed all the procedures for opening the doors on that platform. And it's not like people wouldn't have been getting out. Anyone wanting to get off there would have gotten off when the doors opened, so it may have looked perfectly normal. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 09:20:34 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Mar 22 07:19:45 2007. Oh, I'd LOVE to, however technically (if you check the address, I still put my email address in posts) I can't as a result of our company's privacy policies and the great likelihood of even MORE political retribution for our company ... when one tangles with political realities, one can get SEVERELY burned as was my case. However in just a couple more weeks, my own situation is about to RADICALLY change and as a reault, there will be BEAUCOUP spankings to go around, and as my final act, some politicos are going to JAIL. :)Stay tuned! |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 22 09:21:46 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by BMTLines on Thu Mar 22 08:11:58 2007. Heh. Some of the current folks have enjoyed some of my escapades as well since I know the score, DID work there and nothing has changed for the better after all these years. :( |
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Re: GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 22 09:25:56 2007, in response to GBS made this up (Re: Conductor opened the wrong side), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 22 01:44:28 2007. >>>>"Conductors are not that dumb on the MTA."<<<<You can just stow that statement. About 5/6 years ago I was on a train that went BIE with about 3 cars out of the station. I was in the second car standing by a door when it opened. No, no one fell out, thankfully. Never forget the TSS running through the car with the T/O screaming. "WAHT THE FUCK'S HE DOING HE'S OFF THE BOARD?" |
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