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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:25:28 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by subfan on Wed Mar 21 18:26:51 2007. My guess is "verbal re-instruction"... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:32:45 2007, in response to Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 13:03:52 2007. Oh and another thing to add to it the C/R messed up you did what you had to do, told supervision and it should have been over with...Of coruse running here and posting it for all to see is just being a tattle-tale.. Thats just MY opinion.. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 21:35:00 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:32:45 2007. Is jbs the same user who bitched about the T/O who was smoking while operating the (A)? |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:41:00 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Zman179 on Wed Mar 21 20:28:44 2007. This board is no more or less threat than any other chatboard. It's a public forum in which you can exchange information, viewpoints and so on.As an employee, it is your obligation to treat confidential TA information as just that: confidential. You don't post what you are not permitted to post. It's that simple. Members of the public can read and post here what they like, subject to whatever their employers don't want to reveal. For example, a Bombardier employee would not post here a list of other employeess' salaries or social security numbers. It's common sense. If a member of the public sees something hapen on a train (doors opening on the wrong side or whatever), that person is free to post about it and discuss it on this board or any other (like newspaper-sponsored chat sites or neighborhood boards or the Strappies or whatever). You as an employee are not obligated to reply to posts, and may choose to skip threads where you consider the discussion not appropriate for you. However, you have no legitimate expectation, nor should you ask, other people to refrain from posting things of interest to them. You operate in a public environment, not a closed-off building. If a rider discusses a mishap here, that's legitimate. If another TA employee discusses it and violates TA policy, then, if you know who it is, maybe you can find a way to deal with it through your supervision at work. Simple as that. Follow Train Dude's example. Look at how and what he posts. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:41:48 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 21:35:00 2007. Good question... |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 21 21:43:02 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:23:52 2007. There *was* a Zebra present at that location on an active platform.Maybe the C/R was *told* to open on the off side for some reason. There was no safety violation. ROAR |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:43:56 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 15:12:12 2007. That must be why 50,000 people apply for 200 job openings. Obviously some people get along with the TA better than others! |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:44:27 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:41:00 2007. "a Bombardier employee would not post here a list of other employeess' salaries or social security numbers. It's common sense."You mean like the same way a poster posted our salaries right? Is that common sense? Humor me here Ron... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:45:50 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by 1/9 broadway local on Wed Mar 21 19:45:55 2007. Better idea: Maybe you should grow up and be an adult. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:45:55 2007, in response to Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by gbs on Wed Mar 21 13:03:52 2007. Is this incident even real? Or is gbs a troll? |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:46:44 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:32:45 2007. Which he's entitled to do if he wants. If you want a job with less public exposure, don't operate a train. Find something else to do. |
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Re: Myths about chat boards |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:46:48 2007, in response to Re: Myths about chat boards, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:41:00 2007. "A Bombardier employee would not post here a list of other employeess' salaries or social security numbers. It's common sense."You are right i can understand that but this kinda puzzles me here.. You mean like the same way a poster posted our salaries(with rasies for all titles) right? Or how sensititve information concerning V/R people was posted on the MTA website for all to see too? Is that common sense? Humor me here Ron... Just my take on things.. |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 21 21:46:53 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 21 15:22:37 2007. I actually remember one time I was on the Market-Frankford line here in Philly, and the operator forgot to open the doors at all at 34th street. I got off at 30th and in that instance waited for the next train to go to 15th that time as I was a little spooked.At least in this case, it was at an express stop this mistake happened, so people could still get out safely even if it was on the opposite platform. |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:49:15 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:43:56 2007. That must be why 50,000 people apply for 200 job openings. Obviously some people get along with the TA better than others!Non-sequitur - all that shows is that lots of people dream of playing with trains. But maybe that fact allows certain attitudes to be taken towards staff retention. |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:49:33 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:43:56 2007. The numbers for the first test was close to 27 thousand...Those are the ones who took it... About 20 thousand passed.. Close to two thousand got hired.. Give or take a few... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:51:35 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:46:44 2007. C/R's operate Doors,not the train..T/O's operate the train,and sometimes the Doors with OPTO.. Get it right Ron buddy.. |
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Re: Conductor opened the wrong side |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 21:53:27 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 21:35:00 2007. jbs is a JERK OFF! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:53:52 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:51:35 2007. HA! It still sounds like you want a different job. Every year, 50,000 people line up to take the exam so they can get a job like yours. If you're truly not happy, find something else to do. The TA will fill your slot. |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:54:09 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:49:15 2007. I said it before and i will say it again..IF you want to "play with trains"... Go out and buy a set.. Dont waste yours and the MTA's time, beacuse all you are asking for is trouble if you come down here with THAT mentality.. I seen it where that thinking gets you.. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:56:02 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 21:54:09 2007. Yes, but it's fair to say that that is a very large part of why so many people want to take that exam. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 21:59:21 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:43:56 2007. I work in buses so I can't speak for the entire system. But in the depot I work in with 800+ personnel they are very few who love working for NYCT.The majority are in it for the money and benefits. And if they could find a job that payed as equal as what they get at NYCT they would leave in a second. I know, I have been working here for 12 years at its only getting worse. Imagine dealing with several hundred people like jps's weekly on both ends. Its a draining and tiring job. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:00:58 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 21:53:52 2007. Ron its very obvious you still dont get it right..If you think i come across as some "bitter empolyee" you dont know the half.. Make that an eigth.. If you knew me well enough (as some on this board who have met me) There isnt a day when i DONT say"I just Love this Job, I look forward to coming to work everyday" Not ONCE have i ever woke up(and im talking about snowstroms, 0200 hrs early reports and all kinds of wicked weather) and havent felt like "not coming to work" ever and this is 6 years and counting.. Which i really mean when do you get the chance to do something you always dreamed about? Think about that and let me know.. Get it right... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:04:31 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:56:02 2007. Those are the ones who dont make it past Schoolcar,or thier Probation...The MTA learned thier lesson last time ... Schoolcar will be NOTHING like any T/O(me included)from Off The Street who took it.. It will be totally different, totally.. So if anybody who posts here gets hired i wont be able to say "How they do things".. Beacuse it wont be anything like it was when i was there.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:06:41 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 21:59:21 2007. RTO is different from Surface i have a brother who is a Bus Operator so i hear the war stories..Im up front so unless somebody knocks on my window i dont have anything to say to anybody(unless the situation merits it). |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 22:13:41 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:49:15 2007. Actually, no it's not a non-sequiter at all. Your problem is that you assume, being a railbuff, that everyone else is too.The VAST MAJORITY of those people want a job with job security and good benefits. They know that this is what the TA offers. Some in the crowd resemble you, of course. But not nearly as many as you think. As to your other comment, I suggest you look at retention rate first, then come back and post. People who post here are far more likely to be malcontents or railbuffs whose views (like yours) don't represent most TA employees. |
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Re: Question for Railman |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:16:21 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:04:31 2007. What do you mean? Will the schoolcar curriculum be much harder or technical?Also, how are off the street T/O's treated by others who came up the ranks from Conductor, cleaners, B/O, and others? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 22:18:47 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 22:13:41 2007. Why do you have such a naïve view of management culture in a large organization? |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:21:31 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Mar 21 22:13:41 2007. I think transit employee's who post in here really at heart love thier jobs. How can you explain someone who works 8 or more hours a day at something and then after work comes in here to discuss transit issues and help those who have qustions?I think the last place a malcontent transit worker would be is in here. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:21:33 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Zman179 on Wed Mar 21 20:28:44 2007. If someone is willing to rat out somebody else on this board for a violation on the train, then what is to stop that same person from ratting one of us out to the TA (by e-mailing links to certain posts) if he/she doesn't agree with our views?And what would happen then? NOTHING. I'm not sure why employees on this board feel a sense of entitlement, that whatever they do wrong should be covered up by the riding public. For the record, I would never report an employee unless he/she did something serious, but if someone else wants to, fine. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:23:13 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:21:33 2007. I agree, I think what makes some of us mad is that they must come in here and brag about it.As if it were "Mission Accomplished"! |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:24:35 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:00:58 2007. Railman, you need to learn something: Ron can make 100% accurate judgements about people just from reading their posts on a message board. He has already accurately diagnosed 1/2 of us with aspergers! If Ron tells you that you don't like your job, then he's right, you're wrong, end of story!;-) |
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Re: The MTA.INFO response |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:29:34 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Alex L. on Wed Mar 21 18:10:47 2007. For the record; I really hope the employee involved gets little more than a verbal reprimand. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 22:30:15 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:29:34 2007. Why? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:31:38 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 22:24:35 2007. LOLThis why you deal with "ass-um-ption" with straight up facts.. Any thing else that the person comes back with just shows thier ignorance, or what little "they want to know"... Just another thing i learned from pops... :o) |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Mar 21 22:32:28 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 22:30:15 2007. Becuase he doesn't think that it was a serious offense. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Mar 21 22:41:16 2007, in response to Re: Question for Railman, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 22:16:21 2007. Well from what the Classes had to do after those "Twelwe" Persons from that "legendary" Class of Oct 29th did..4 practicals(two yard and two road spread out over the training not at the end like ours was) instead of just a yard and a road like we did, you fail one its over.. If you are a promo you have to go back to your former title, if you are from Off The Street they ask for your tools on the spot, thats the difference from a person from Off The Street than a promo. The "old" Signals Quiz is gone, they got a new one very "verbatum" with the meanings of the Signals, you get ONE wrong(100% no IF's AND's or BUT'S) same fate.. An extra two weeks of "enhancement training"(where the Line TSS's not the Schoolcar TSS's) show you the Lines more in depth. Im sure they added a few more "wrinkles" to it as well.. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:41:34 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Mar 21 15:22:37 2007. I agree actually. Not to mention it certainly wasn't a safety issue. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:44:53 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 21 17:55:00 2007. If I made a mistake like such..it could cost the life of one of my passengers..How would that happen at an express station where the doors opened on the non-peak platform as opposed to the peak platform? Dumb, yes, safety problem, no. |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Mar 21 22:46:09 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 21 21:46:53 2007. On the MFL they overshoot the platform, and then back up and open the doors, like nothing happened. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:46:12 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:49:15 2007. Non-sequitur - all that shows is that lots of people dream of playing with trains.No, it means lots of people want a JOB. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:47:34 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Easy on Wed Mar 21 22:32:28 2007. And it wasn't. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:48:42 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Russ on Wed Mar 21 20:03:15 2007. I don't consider endangering the lives of passengers to be an honest mistake.How is opening the doors on the non-peak PLATFORM instead of the peak PLATFORM "endager the lives of passengers"? |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Mar 21 22:49:37 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 20:47:51 2007. If the t.a.IS reading this,all I have to say is"Mr Chairman"tear down the goddamned wall leading to 76st& PROVE TUNNELRAT right once&forall! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:50:57 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Mar 21 20:18:28 2007. Exactly, the people that keep saying "endangering the lives of passengers" are out of line. It's making a big deal out of nothing. Sure, it's a little dumb, but it's no biggie. it's not like he opened the doors on the wrong side, where there was no platform, like hovering over an elevated structure. All this minor thing was that the doors opened on a manhattan platform instead of a outbound platform....at an express center track. Big Whoop. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 21 22:55:39 2007, in response to Re: Conductor opened the wrong side, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Mar 21 21:45:55 2007. That's why the MTA should take every email seriously either. Anyone could say anything happened to them at a certain time on a certain train, totally fabricated, if someone just didn't like a conductor for some reason.While this is a completely possible occurance, it's completely harmless, aside from a few passengers getting incovenienced. Big whoop, it was a mistake that was not dangering in any way. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Mar 21 22:56:23 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Mar 21 15:49:59 2007. They still have Beakies?!? :o&t-w- |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed Mar 21 23:04:46 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Mar 21 22:30:15 2007. Because, as mentioned by others, It was an honest mistake that didn't put anyone in danger. Humans are not perfect. |
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Posted by TunnelRat on Wed Mar 21 23:08:35 2007, in response to Re: The MTA.INFO response, posted by IRT/O on Wed Mar 21 16:49:27 2007. I remember back in `68 while patroling the A train.We had just left the hole at grant& went right thru hudson st[80st]w/o stopping.I,m thinkin`WTF? I talked to the m/m at lefferts&he was stunned that he had done it.He said I thought I didn`t stop.we had a good laff about it &that was that.I was with the same m/m talking to him at a redball when we encountered a rogue signal.It turned green for a second,he notched up& it turned red again,he did stop in time&told me that`s the first time in 15years he encountered that. |
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Re: TA Reading SubChat |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Mar 21 23:19:29 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 20:47:51 2007. I remember that newspaper article a while back that mentioned "foamers" said that the MTA had people that routinely visited railfan websites. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 21 23:19:57 2007, in response to Re: TA Reading SubChat, posted by TunnelRat on Wed Mar 21 22:49:37 2007. I'd like a piece of that myself. But given that Jimmy Hoffa's probably back there and Al D'Amato ain't croaked yet, gonna be a while. :) |
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