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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 15:02:59 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 10 15:02:23 2007.

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You are correct! Sorry.

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 10 15:10:03 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 14:08:41 2007.

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OK.

I will do this: I will move the URL to the bottom of my post, out of the way. If I provide a link, it will be in the main area near my comments. If a reader wants the URL (and some do) it will be at the botttom. If you don't, well, it's at the bottom, and you'll never have to go there.

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 10 15:10:49 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 15:02:59 2007.

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See my compromise offer in my other reply to you.

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 10 15:20:46 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 10 15:10:03 2007.

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Wow. You still don't get it.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IN THE POST YOU PUT THE URL! IT STILL FSCKS UP THE WHOLE PAGE!



Don't you think that if your compromise was an option, we would have already mentioned it? We didn't, because that doesn't solve the problem.

Why don't you instead follow our suggestion, which is the only solution, and that is to NOT PASTE THE URL INTO THE POST SINCE IT HAS NO PURPOSE.

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 10 15:22:46 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 15:02:26 2007.

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I have Firefox 2.0.0.1 and I still have this issue.
However, I found a page that gives a better explanation as to why long URLs in web text are bad.

URLs as Links

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 15:33:08 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 10 15:22:46 2007.

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Thank you for that. The huge impact of a lot of gobbledy-gook on screen readers was interesting too—not that I know about any of our posters here having sufficient vision impairment that they need them.

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Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone

Posted by JohnL on Wed Jan 10 15:42:35 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 10 15:10:03 2007.

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If the URL is relatively short, it doesn’t matter whether you include it nor not. If it’s horrendously long, it appears that it can still cause problems, with reflow: according to what R36 #9346 reports in this post.

Also, you might be interested to read the report he links to, which gives other reasons why URLs shouldn’t appear in text: they give screen readers indigestion. Not that we have any known Subchatters who need screenreaders yet, but we’re all getting older!

If you believe, despite lots of effort to convince you that including the text of URLs doesn’t help a post** and can significantly impact its usability and readability, then please just post the link and the URL in a post by themselves.

Put any comments in a separate post, so we can read them easily.

**I could be wrong, but in the large number of threads posts about this topic, there was only one request for text URLs, and that came from Lincoln, who has some unknown problem with his PC/browser.

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Re: Tech Specs of iPhone

Posted by zdeno on Wed Jan 10 20:52:52 2007, in response to Re: Tech Specs of iPhone, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 10 14:45:44 2007.

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Brian's forte is not communicating verbally.

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