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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/09/technology/09cnd-iphone.html?hp&ex=1168405200&en=bfe129b788406dc3&ei=5094&partner=homepageLink here OK, so it's pricey, but look at the length of subway train video it can store! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 18:26:38 2007, in response to Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007. That's not a video phone. The correct term, in this context, would be "camera phone". |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 18:49:14 2007, in response to Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Jan 9 18:50:39 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 18:26:38 2007. Correct! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:51:05 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 18:49:14 2007. That's always a possible drawback. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Jan 9 18:51:18 2007, in response to Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007. Let me guess...it's going to crash every 5 seconds like it's computer counterpart (the iMac) |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:13:51 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 18:49:14 2007. And in before link drama.I have given up on that one. Unfortunately in his (near-?) dotage, Ron apparently is incapable of learning new information and it unfortunately appears that he is starting to forget what he has already learned. Remember that Ron had trouble with his three-times table earlier? So I’m not going to point out (again) that long URLs are useless, especially when they have a line break in them. Even more so, when the entire second line can be omitted, as it is just information to the server about where you came from and is only used to choose the adverts that appear on the page.** **As far as you, the user sees. I’m sure that the NY Times gets some useful statistical information from it, but do you care? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:13:54 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by error46146 on Tue Jan 9 18:51:18 2007. Excuse, I own 2 IMacs, and they have NEVER crashed! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:14:14 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by error46146 on Tue Jan 9 18:51:18 2007. Excuse me, I own 2 IMacs, and they have NEVER crashed! |
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Posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 9 19:14:41 2007, in response to Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007. Big Screen + Touch Screen for a keypad?No thanks The battery life is more than likely gonna suck on this thing. Of course all the Apple fanboys will think its the greatest invention ever made. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:19:06 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 9 19:14:41 2007. I don’t think I would buy this phone. But Apple has raised the bar for phone/computer/music integration. And the other manufacturers will be scrambling to catch up, so we will all benefit. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 19:19:44 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:19:06 2007. That's a good way of looking at it. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:21:59 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 9 19:14:41 2007. They claim 5-hour battery life. Of course the thing hasn't been manufactured yet! |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Jan 9 19:27:19 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:14:14 2007. They sure double posted! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:27:58 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:19:06 2007. My Pocket already does that, and then some: Phone, Camera, Video, full TCPMP video player, full HTML web browsing from both Opera and IE, MP3 player, mapping software, several games, Text messaging, GPS receiver with compass and speedometer (trying to harness this), Wi-Fi, beaming of files pictures and contacts, HTML editor for new web page design, PDF reader, and whatever else I can think of.So why do I need an Apple? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:29:26 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Jan 9 19:27:19 2007. That was me, not the Mac |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:30:33 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:27:58 2007. Does it all work?How big is it? |
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Posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 9 19:31:35 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:21:59 2007. Maybe 5 hour battery life with ALL FUNCTIONS (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc) turned off.A device that thin wont have a long lasting battery. I mean there are some high-end phones on the market you can keep on standby for 2 weeks...this apple phone will not. The only thing I like is the flash memory included. Thats about it. But when it gets dropped (And WE ALL DROP OUR PHONES!!!), you can kiss your investment goodbye =) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:35:03 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by The Queen on Tue Jan 9 19:31:35 2007. Per Apple website--Battery Up to 5 hoursTalk / Video / Browsing Up to 16 hoursAudio playback I guess the key words are "up to." |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:38:14 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:30:33 2007. It's slightly bigger than a typical deck of cards. Most of the programs are add ons from various websites, such as this and this.Now, can the new Apple phone do this? |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:39:06 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:27:58 2007. I don’t know what you have that does all that, so this comment is general not you-specific.From what I have seen, Apple’s innovations have not been strictly technical, but human. There were music players before the iPod. But Apple got the integration right and they have 70% of the US market for portable music players and have sold more than two billion tunes from iTunes. Other manufacturers are only just starting to realize how they can compete with Apple here. So, I’m betting that the Apple phone will have the human factors sorted out and people will use the phone because they find it easy to use. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:39:50 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:30:33 2007. It's slightly bigger than a typical deck of cards. Most of the programs are add ons from various websites, such as this and this.Now, can the new Apple phone do this? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 19:40:15 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:35:03 2007. Iwould agree with you. |
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Posted by Alex L. on Tue Jan 9 19:41:04 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:38:14 2007. A matched pair of "page not found" links? Sounds more like a user problem than a hardware concern. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:49:07 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:39:50 2007. Corrected links!It's slightly bigger than a typical deck of cards. Most of the programs are add ons from various websites, such as PPC Geeks and Free Cabs. Now, can the new Apple phone do this? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:50:30 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Alex L. on Tue Jan 9 19:41:04 2007. I didn't add http to the links, sorry!They were corrected and resent. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:56:40 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:49:07 2007. Dunno about the phone's capabilities, but it WILL run MacOS X, which has lots of freeware and "widgets" for free download. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 20:04:22 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:56:40 2007. Depends on how much Apple locks up the phone software. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 20:06:04 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:35:03 2007. I have never had a battery powered device that has lived up to its longevity claims while in real world use.After all 1 hour is up to 5 hours! However, I would suspect that phone V1 will have poor battery life but phone V2 will fix the problems. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 20:06:14 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 19:35:03 2007. I have never had a battery powered device that has lived up to its longevity claims while in real world use.After all 1 hour is up to 5 hours! However, I would suspect that phone V1 will have poor battery life but phone V2 will fix the problems. |
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Posted by Alex L. on Tue Jan 9 20:08:35 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 19:49:07 2007. Here is a short video from CNET with Steve and his iPhone. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jan 9 20:33:27 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by error46146 on Tue Jan 9 18:51:18 2007.  I've had a PowerBook G4 since August 2005. It has only crashed a handful of times, and most of the time I'm able to "force-quit" the offending application and restart it. Perhaps if you actually used a Macintosh to some extent before talking nonsense, then you'd be more reputable. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jan 9 20:35:53 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:19:06 2007. I never understood combining all those features. I use my cell phone only to talk to other people and I have no need to do anything else with it.If I may quote American Pig, "it's like putting ice cream on pizza." The features are great but I don't need them combined into one device. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 21:20:38 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 19:13:51 2007. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 21:31:39 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 21:20:38 2007. Agreed. And Ron knows about this but apparently doesn’t care.I’m surprised by this because Ron is one of our ardent ADA supporters here. The fact that it’s easier on the eyes to read narrower columns of text (which is one of the reasons newspaper columns are the width they are) seems to be lost on him. I guess if you’re not in a wheelchair, the human factors don’t matter. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 21:36:40 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:51:05 2007. Possible? Duh, when you play music or shoot video, you drain the battery anyway! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 21:44:57 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 21:31:39 2007. Ron only pays attention to elevators and ramps. He doesn't pay attention to people. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 21:53:13 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Jan 9 20:35:53 2007. My attitude exactly. My current cell phone (an LG) has no web connection, no games, just a nice color screen, which my old Kyocera phone didn't have. It did offer web access, but it was never activated. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 21:54:58 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 21:44:57 2007. Which makes you wonder how he remains a doctor. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 22:06:54 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 21:54:58 2007. I don't think he's a traditional doctor with a practice. He is a consultant. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 22:08:49 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 21:53:13 2007. Your loss. Talking on cell phones is so 1990's. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 22:26:43 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 22:08:49 2007. Actually, the first cell phone used was the 007 "From Russia With Love", a car phone and pager were both shown. That was nearly 44 years ago. |
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Posted by R68A - 5200 on Tue Jan 9 22:36:53 2007, in response to Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 18:20:47 2007. Nothing too revolutionary as they claim. It's a newer Motorola A1200. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 22:44:47 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 22:26:43 2007. The Post Office (before British Telecom) had a radiophone service long before cell phones. But there was one transmitter and you had to be in range of it. The idea of having multiple transmitters that handed off your signal from one to the next didn’t happen until the 1980s. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 9 22:44:59 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 21:54:58 2007. I don't think he's a doctor. I think he's Peter Kalikow posting under a pseudonym :) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jan 9 22:49:18 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 22:44:47 2007. Yes, in the US as well there were mobile phones long before cell phones. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 23:10:30 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jan 9 21:20:38 2007. You mean you're watching from a cellphone? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 23:11:22 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by JohnL on Tue Jan 9 21:31:39 2007. If you don't like the URL list, just click on the link and don't bother with it.Stop crying like a baby. I'll have to put a pacifier in your mouth. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 9 23:19:51 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jan 9 23:11:22 2007. wow, you are stupid. the issue is not clicking on the URL!!!! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 9 23:36:19 2007, in response to Re: Apple produces ideal Subchatter video phone, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 9 22:44:59 2007. If so, he's been doing it for a long time. The handle RoninBayside came from Subtalk, and in the very early days. The posting style never changed. |
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