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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Nov 16 10:49:18 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Nov 16 08:02:26 2006. Those were great buses! My favorite was 3873 out of ENY. |
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Posted by Jace on Thu Nov 16 12:28:20 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by R30A on Wed Nov 15 23:26:46 2006. Actually, the non-cab ends of the cars have a separate blower and duct which opens right over the end doors. |
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Posted by Jace on Thu Nov 16 12:31:40 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 16:33:03 2006. Those cars should be among the first to go. They're still in service (rode 3937 this morning on the C) but don't look for them to stay in service much longer. They're oddballs and oddballs never last in the fleet. |
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Posted by Eric B on Thu Nov 16 13:10:55 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 16:16:27 2006. I don't think the problems on the Q and N have been resolved yet.What I wonder is of the 160A's will go to the G, which seems to be what the small order was intended for. (I guess they didn't test them there, because they wanted longer line with full length trains). |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 16 13:39:58 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 06:37:45 2006. IAWTGP. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 14:04:19 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 06:37:45 2006. Impossible. I have laryngitis. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 14:12:11 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 14:04:19 2006. I feel your pain. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 14:22:53 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 14:12:11 2006. Oh, there's no pain at all. That's what's so frustrating. But I open my mouth and nothing comes out. So I can't do my job. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 14:31:35 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 14:22:53 2006. Oh, there's no pain at all. That's what's so frustratingYou're frustrated that you're not in pain? You know...I could arrange something for you. But I open my mouth and nothing comes out My wife wishes that I had your problem. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Thu Nov 16 14:33:47 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 16 00:36:00 2006. You're a moron. That much I know of you. |
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YES! "Rebirth'' R110b design in R160ies? |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 16:56:29 2006, in response to why not "rebirth" R110b design in R160ies?, posted by tramrunner on Wed Nov 15 22:54:53 2006. I've been advocating your subject line ever since I became interested in mass transit. I have no idea why the MTA chose Antenna Design's proposal, nor do I have any idea why they're keeping it. The R160s could easily use R110b-style seats in a non-transverse arrangement. They could also easily use the R110bs' indirect interior illumination, providing for a less hostile interior.The NTTs' first SMS ought to include seat replacement. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:02:29 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 08:29:14 2006. Apparently, you implied it was a major enough problem to halt the replacement of the R32 GEs.From your perspective, it seems that the RFW alone makes the 10 R32 GEs, mechanically among the worst in the system, superior to the R160s. That's like saying the R38s are better than the R32s because their front lights are flush with the surface, providing for a more attractive look. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:08:04 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Wed Nov 15 22:59:59 2006. Well-said. I completely agree, but the lack of a railfan window does not invalidate an entire car class. I personally wish that the polarized plastic filter covering the cab door were simply plexiglass. The R62(a) arrangement works well; the small size of the window minimizes glare into the cab, but still allows for a good view of the tracks (and the console, for that matter!) |
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What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006, in response to R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 15 13:01:27 2006. I really don't want to read every post in this thread. So what's the concensus?Did the R-160A pass the 30-day test? Where is the R-160B going to run in regular service? When is the R-160B going into regular service? When will the Seimans R-160 begin its' 30 day qualification test? Where will the Seimans R-160 do its' 30 day qualification test? |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Nov 16 17:39:00 2006, in response to What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006. No idea... I dont want to read them either.But here are some guesses for you to accept or refute. Yes N Soon Soon N Hows that? |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:40:05 2006, in response to What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006. What's a "concensus?"And what's "Seimans?" ;-) |
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Posted by Alex L. on Thu Nov 16 18:07:23 2006, in response to Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:40:05 2006. Typos? |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Nov 16 18:15:00 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:26:22 2006. But brillig when the MTA's slithy toves mimsied on the RFW. You shouldn't manxome in their frabjous jabberwocks. |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 18:34:39 2006, in response to Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:40:05 2006. con‧sen‧sus /kənˈsɛnsəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhn-sen-suhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–noun, plural -sus‧es. 1. majority of opinion: The consensus of the group was that they should meet twice a month. 2. general agreement or concord; harmony. Seimans = Seimens |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 18:37:45 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:02:29 2006. Apparently, you implied it was a major enough problem to halt the replacement of the R32 GEs.Noooo..... In the linked post I was asking how serious he was that the introduction of the R-160 would mean the withdrawl of the R-32GE cars. As in: 1. will the R-32GE really be the first to be withdrawn? 2. will it really happen the day the R-160 cars go into service? 3. or are you just guessing that this means the end of the R-32GE cars? |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Nov 16 18:39:12 2006, in response to Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 18:34:39 2006. Seaman's = mattress manufacturer |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 18:40:25 2006, in response to What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006. What is the "Seimens R-160"? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 19:11:38 2006, in response to What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006. http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=338668 |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 19:30:37 2006, in response to Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 18:34:39 2006. I know, I was joking around. :-) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 19:33:51 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 18:37:45 2006. Oh, I thought you meant, "are you seriously wishing the R32 GEs away."Sorry about the misunderstanding. Brevity may be the soul of wit, but not the essence of good communication. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 19:35:27 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 19:33:51 2006. No problem. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 20:15:42 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 17:08:04 2006. I'm not trying to invalidate anything. It's hardly the end of the world, but I think it's a shame, in more ways than one, to be losing access to the window at the very front of the train.The R-62 arrangement is better than on the other cars with transverse cabs, but the window is in an awkward location, and there's a coat hook above it, and the view through a single pane of glass is far superior. If cabs must be transverse, I don't see what's wrong with a full-size transparent window and a sliding curtain (lengthwise with respect to the car) to block glare. Or do it MFL-style, with access to door controls on both sides from a single narrow cab. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Nov 16 20:17:15 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 20:15:42 2006. If cabs must be transverse, I don't see what's wrong with a full-size transparent window and a sliding curtain (lengthwise with respect to the car) to block glare.That's how things are done on the MBTA, although I'm not sure about the new cars for the Blue Line. Usually the operator extends the curtain to cover the entire window, though. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 20:29:34 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 20:15:42 2006. Also a window on the left side of the cab like at WMATA, BSS, and others. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 20:35:57 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 20:29:34 2006. The R62s originally had this, before T/Os and C/Rs complained about glare. It was then covered over with the current metal. You can still see the outline of the old pseudo-RFWSmoked glass would have done the trick. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 20:43:28 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 20:35:57 2006. So you'd have a view of the cab? Because the rollsign would block the forward view. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 20:46:17 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 20:43:28 2006. I suppose if you sat diagonally, you could see out the real RFW.It was before my time, so I never experienced it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 16 20:57:27 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 20:35:57 2006. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. It was the cut out for the small window at the end of the side of the car. So if the left side of the cab was folded against the wall, the window would still be visible. It wasn't there as any part of forward view, if I am correct. |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 20:59:09 2006, in response to Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 18:34:39 2006. Any relation to Siemens? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 21:00:39 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Nov 16 20:17:15 2006. Wrong orientation. Perpendicular to that. Front to back. Stretching from the right edge of the storm door to the right edge of the cab door. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 21:02:12 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Nov 16 20:35:57 2006. I don't think that was ever the permanent plan. R-62's and R-62A's were originally singles, and none had transverse cabs. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 16 21:02:37 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 07:11:18 2006. ZMAN179 IS BACK!YEAH!8^)!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 16 21:03:42 2006, in response to What's the concensus? (was: R160a's Burn test Should be over.), posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 16 17:33:30 2006. I never knew you would ask those questions. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 16 21:18:39 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 21:02:12 2006. But they were equiped with knockdown tranversecabs[BOTH ENDS] from the begining...that could be assembled/disassembled quickly.The first R62 car sets had its transverse cabs up. I asked if they would remain..and the person I spoke with said no...it was only for the testing. |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Nov 16 21:43:46 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 07:51:44 2006. Thanks for coming back! |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Nov 16 22:43:57 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Zman179 on Thu Nov 16 07:51:44 2006. Why'd you leave in the first place? |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Nov 16 22:48:34 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 20:15:42 2006. PATCO! |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Nov 16 23:11:08 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Thu Nov 16 21:00:39 2006. Ah, I see... |
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Re: R160a's Burn test CLOWN BOY |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Nov 16 23:29:18 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 15:47:48 2006. The eye told me that the R-160A passed the qualification testR-160B will go into service on Monday on the N line Siemens R-160 will will be tested on the A line right after new years. THIS IS ***T*R*U*T*H***!!! |
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HERE ARE THE R160a's Burn test RESULTS |
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Posted by BIE on Fri Nov 17 00:13:15 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test CLOWN BOY, posted by BIE on Thu Nov 16 23:29:18 2006. Read my earlier post "Clown Boy" |
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Re: HERE ARE THE R160a's Burn test RESULTS |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Fri Nov 17 01:09:09 2006, in response to HERE ARE THE R160a's Burn test RESULTS, posted by BIE on Fri Nov 17 00:13:15 2006. Email me tomorrow so I can return mail. SubChat has a rat. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Nov 17 01:14:07 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 16 21:02:37 2006. Shehecheyanu v'kiymanu v'higianu la'Zman hazeh! |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Nov 17 01:15:22 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Nov 16 22:48:34 2006. YAY!I think PATCO should take over all trains over the Manhattan Bridge. (I'd get to work in half the time!) |
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Posted by Zman179 on Fri Nov 17 08:56:22 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Fri Nov 17 01:14:07 2006. Shehecheyanu v'kiymanu v'higianu la'Zman hazeh!Well, I understand the Zman part. LOL. Wifey took a look and said that you were exactly right, David. la'Zman can also be pronounced "Lazy man." Hey, I wasn't taking out the garbage in a monsoon! |
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Posted by Zman179 on Fri Nov 17 08:57:38 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 16 21:02:37 2006. Thanks Edwards for the welcome back. |
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