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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 19:40:35 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 18:20:41 2006.

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Smugged? Is that when a smurf gets mugged? Jeez man.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 19:41:52 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Nov 15 18:16:22 2006.

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It is not trivial at all and with a bit of effort, it could be retained.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 19:44:11 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by David of Broadway on Wed Nov 15 17:16:51 2006.

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Its like someones foot right in the middle of your back!

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 19:48:24 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 18:18:48 2006.

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Nahhh..

R32's DOMINATE the C line.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 19:48:33 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 19:37:07 2006.

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Whatever floats both ur boats.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:51:14 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 19:44:11 2006.

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It's like someone's foot right in the middle of your back? Jeez, have you ever had someone jam their foot on your back to know how it feels? Talk about overstating your point...

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:52:07 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 19:48:24 2006.

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R32s dominate the E line.

I see more R38s on the C more than any other fleet.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:57:06 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 19:41:52 2006.

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With a little bit of effort, they could be retained?

Appearantly, we've already seen three/five different fleets (R142s, R142As, R143s, R160As, R160Bs), enter service over the past 7 years and no railfan windows are to be found. Get a grip already, they're not of the importance that you give them.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 20:07:37 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:52:07 2006.

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Hah..

Of course you'll see 38's on the C.

They don't run on any other lines BUT the IND NORTH.

The A uses most of the 38...
The C uses mostly 32's with SOME 38 thrown in.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 20:09:04 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:51:14 2006.

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I can tell that YOU sleep alone.

Get yourself a girlfriend or a wife[that sleeps wild..then you'll know what I speak of].

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:13:56 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 18:07:40 2006.

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It is nice, but not necessary especially for those coming home from work or school who are tired and wants a seat more than to spend hours RF a certain line.
Not everyone has that much free time on their hands.
Seats is #1 on importance.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:15:29 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 19:48:24 2006.

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Ok so give or take equal for both.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Future Motorman on Wed Nov 15 20:21:50 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 15 17:53:58 2006.

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No. Bring CBTC to the nations school children.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:27:14 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:37:45 2006.

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False. There is no proff of that what so ever. All that is known is that they were not included in the latest cars.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:29:06 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:27:14 2006.

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The MTA wants full width cabs so they can run OPTO if they wanted to.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Nov 15 20:29:55 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:29:06 2006.

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It's already been proven that a full-width cab is not a prerequisite for OPTO.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:30:35 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:51:14 2006.

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And you know this because you get beat up a lot at school?

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 20:31:45 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:13:56 2006.

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I agree. After my trips to the city, I don't really find any use for the RFW after dark and by that time, I'm mostly too tired to stand at the RFW, so I usually get a seat near the RFW on the LIRR M1/3s. At least we'll still have the M3s; the retirement of the M1s was no big loss at all to me, and shouldn't be a big loss to the railfan community.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:41:29 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:30:35 2006.

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Don't try to change the subject when you clearly understood the point. The seats on the R160s are hardly as bad as David is making them out to be.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 20:45:56 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:30:35 2006.

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That is uncalled for.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:46:09 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 20:31:45 2006.

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Exactly on both points.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:46:12 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 20:27:14 2006.

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The last 3 fleets delivered to the MTA NYC Subways lacked a RFW, the new PATH cars are being delivered in 2008 without RFWs, the M7s lack RFWs, see the pattern? There will most likely be RFWs around in the next following years unless the MTA chooses an option order of more R160s. You'll live either way.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:47:58 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 20:09:04 2006.

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I don't know about you, but I choose not to post my personal life on a public message board.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:00:13 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:47:58 2006.

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Everybody know I have a wife..so what's there to hide?

As a matter of fact..I have a wife with very large breasts..

She sleeps wide..butit ALL good.

Don't hate the playa..hate the game...

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:01:47 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:47:58 2006.

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Everybody know I have a wife..so what's there to hide?

As a matter of fact..I have a wife with very large breasts..

She sleeps wild..but its ALL good.

Don't hate the playa..hate the game...

Sure dude..you DON'T have a juicy chick.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:14:23 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:46:12 2006.

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No, I don't see the pattern, considering that other new rapid transit cars in this country DO have railfan windows.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:14:55 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:01:47 2006.

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And I applaud you for that. I still choose not to give my personal information and you'll have to accept that.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:15:56 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:14:23 2006.

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But we don't, so? If you feel that the lack of RFWs is a major problem, take it up with the MTA and see how far you'll get.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 21:21:56 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:15:56 2006.

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likely not far. the NYTimes article was likely the best way to get the point across in favor of the rfw.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:22:41 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:57:06 2006.

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Yes, they could be retained, and they are important.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:24:36 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Nov 15 20:29:55 2006.

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Yes, thank you.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:25:15 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 21:21:56 2006.

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And since I was in that article, you can see that I did my part.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:25:48 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:15:56 2006.

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So? It means nothing. And when did I ever say it was a major problem? You're the one making a big deal over it.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:26:22 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:22:41 2006.

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How can you justify that RFWs ever so greatly improve the ride quality of the hundreds of thousands of commuters that ride the subway?

Railfan windows are of little importance to riders as well as the MTA otherwise they would have greater notoriety and the MTA would be striving for each fleet to have RFWs.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:27:19 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:00:13 2006.

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This would be at least the third time that you have posted to this board about the large size of your wife's breasts.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:27:43 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:14:55 2006.

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Why do you applaud him for that?

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:29:03 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:01:47 2006.

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This would be at least the fourth time that you have posted to this board about the large size of your wife's breasts.

Sure dude..you DON'T have a juicy chick.

You place a woman's worth in the size of her breasts?

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:29:18 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 20:09:04 2006.

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TMI

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:29:58 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 20:45:56 2006.

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Why? How else would he know what it feels like?

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:30:49 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 20:41:29 2006.

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I'm not changing the subject. You claimed to know that the seats absolutely do not feel like getting a foot in your back, so you must know what that is like from experience.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Wed Nov 15 21:32:13 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:27:19 2006.

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You think maybe he's looking for a M-F-M threesome?

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 21:33:39 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:25:15 2006.

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Yup. AT least a ppr your message would be read by many. A letter to the MTA would likley get 'lost'.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Nov 15 21:33:46 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 15 21:01:47 2006.

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Oh, I remember this, your wife has the big "Juggs", right? :-D

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:34:41 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:29:58 2006.

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And who said they knew what felt like, because I know I didn't state that.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 21:37:11 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:30:49 2006.

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The NTT seats feel like seats. You're knowingly misinterpreting what I said to use it in your favor.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 21:52:42 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:29:58 2006.

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You are resorting to personal attacks just like RON IN BS does. You are really no better than him.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 22:03:48 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 15 20:31:45 2006.

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After my trips to the city, I don't really find any use for the RFW after dark and by that time, I'm mostly too tired to stand at the RFW

Just because you are a wimp doesn't mean the rest of us are.

usually get a seat near the RFW on the LIRR M1/3s

So you still do feel an attraction to it. Ha!

he retirement of the M1s was no big loss at all to me, and shouldn't be a big loss to the railfan community

That's where you are wrong. The loss of the RFW is a big deal to the railfan community.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 15 22:07:24 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 21:27:19 2006.

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Good thing I missed the other two.

Maybe I'll find a different thread to follow for a while.

ROAR

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 15 22:21:56 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 15 20:13:56 2006.

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Huh? Having a RFW

ADDS

seats. This just shows that you don't know what you are talking about. Furthermore, the extra seats could face a second railfan window on the left side.

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Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over.

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Nov 15 22:34:07 2006, in response to Re: R160a's Burn test Should be over., posted by tydev417 on Wed Nov 15 19:00:06 2006.

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"The straight back seats on the R32s-R42s"?! Congratulations! You've just lumped three very different seat styles together as one. And at least one of them (the one found on the R-32 and R-38, the most comfortable kind on the subway) doesn't have a straight back at all.

I personally don't find it comfortable to have a lump poking me in the back. Perhaps some people do.

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