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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:17:31 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. he was shooting from the street level, not on lirr propertynot arrested but detained for about 15 min. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 15:26:32 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:17:31 2004. tell us more please. where was he taking photos? what did the police say to him? did he cooperate or not? |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:40:52 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 15:26:32 2004. he was on a public street taking pictures of lirr equipmentpolice questioned as to what he was doing they examined his camera but didn't open it at the stationhouse they checked his i.d. and patted him down checking for weaponry camera was returned with the film |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:41:54 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:40:52 2004. he was told that he needed a permit to photograph the trainsone police officer appeared to be against the photoban |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:42:51 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:41:54 2004. the police station was across sutphin blvd from the station itself |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Dec 29 15:43:20 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:41:54 2004. A PERMIT TO TAKE PICUTRES WHILE YOU ARE ON A PUBLIC STREET, PUBLIC SIDEWALK INCLUDED? THIS IS SO F!*#ING NUTS. |
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Posted by Allan on Wed Dec 29 15:54:46 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. That railfan should go directly to the newspapers and/or TV stations and make a fuss about it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 16:07:37 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:42:51 2004. So......this happened at Jamaica???? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Express on Wed Dec 29 16:19:09 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. That evildoer. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 29 16:40:16 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 29 16:07:37 2004. Seems like that. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 29 16:42:12 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:41:54 2004. I had cops tellin me the same BS the day of the centenial.Atleast they didn't arrest or ticket him and gave him his camera with the film. We've all heard of far worse situations. None the less, it is pretty outrageous that something like this should happen. Hopefully that one cop though is against the photoban. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Dec 29 16:55:36 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Dec 29 15:43:20 2004. What was that Prince song.. sign "o" the times? This is the society we live in people unfortunately. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 17:53:25 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 29 16:40:16 2004. yes |
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Posted by 1/9 Broadway Local on Wed Dec 29 19:12:26 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. This is fucking ridiculous. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Wed Dec 29 23:23:37 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by 1/9 Broadway Local on Wed Dec 29 19:12:26 2004. iawtMFp |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 30 00:29:45 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Railman718 on Wed Dec 29 16:55:36 2004. What was that Prince song.. sign "o" the times? This is the society we live in people unfortunately.It does not mean we have to accept it - its time for the ACLU!! |
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Posted by Da Hui on Thu Dec 30 03:14:45 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 17:53:25 2004. So it's safe to say that the police were a bunch of assholes.1:Pictures can be taken of ANYTHING on a public street. 2:Police have no right to detain or confiscate anything unless they have a warrent saying so.3:If I were the person that got detained,I'd file a lawsuit claiming wrongful imprisonment and violation of free rights.Da Hui |
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Posted by Booge on Thu Dec 30 03:27:53 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Da Hui on Thu Dec 30 03:14:45 2004. Like Ivana Trump said "don't get mad, get EVERYTHING". |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 03:43:56 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. Hopefully he'd better file a lawsuit and get some attention. Sure this may be acceptable in some Communist or Fascist country but this kind of nonsense has to stop.The cops should be charged with theft and violation of civil rights. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 04:40:21 2004, in response to photographer taken to police station, posted by monorail on Wed Dec 29 15:14:38 2004. If that railfan lets this incident go without making a major legal, civil, and public issue of it, he is just as complicit as those POs who wrongly aprehended and detained him. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 04:53:55 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Da Hui on Thu Dec 30 03:14:45 2004. Won't work, that's why that bunch dreamed up tort reform, to deny the people a day in court with the with the help of a Public Protection Court Officer (attorney). |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 06:49:00 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 30 00:29:45 2004. Amen!Enough is enough! |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 06:51:10 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Railman718 on Wed Dec 29 16:55:36 2004. So what happened to this man is okay?Would you say and feel the same if it were you? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 30 08:47:53 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 03:43:56 2004. What did the cops steal? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 30 10:09:07 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 30 08:47:53 2004. Stole his time away by making him go to the police station? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 30 10:19:31 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Railman718 on Wed Dec 29 16:55:36 2004. What was that Prince song.. sign "o" the times? This is the society we live in people unfortunately.And you would also consider racial profiling, and police brutality the acceptable society we live in too? Sure I should be a cop too. But for the 1 percent of all NYC police officers who abuse their authority (the 99 percent I support), they should not have any job to begin with. Unless it is OK to shoot and kill an unarmed man 41 times and create a real Academy Award for acting to convince an upstate NY jury that the shooting was an accident. Or use a Police Issued nightstick to administer street justice inside a police station. * - Again, my opinion is not directed at the majority of the 40,000 honest NYPD officers who give their lives to protect this great city, just only to the Justin Volpes and Sean Carolls. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Dec 30 10:35:57 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 30 10:19:31 2004. Amen! Odds are some on that jury were racist too. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 30 10:45:51 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Dec 30 10:35:57 2004. I don't think the jury in Albany, NY was tainted or racist. I strongly belive that the cop's fake emotions got the best of them in their decision making process. After all, one of the other officers claimed he "got up" after falling off the steps and landing squarely on his back. |
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Posted by Metal Management INC on Thu Dec 30 11:07:18 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 06:51:10 2004. Railman ain't gonna care it isn't effecting him. Hes going to see more than enough trains in his next 24 years in the TA he won't miss his camera. Yesterday I got hit with a flash while running. I'd really like to see more of them detained and summonsed but the guy mentioned in Jamaica was just pat down and questioned. I'd say he was treated fairly. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 11:22:23 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 06:51:10 2004. I think the issue comes down to "we're at war" here, as I've said many times before. Doesn't matter that the "high alert" was cancelled on election day (how ABOUT that stuff, eh?) but that in RE-electing President George W Bush, we can COUNT on this going completely out of control, just like Iraq. Bottom line, SELL the camera - FEAR won, and anybody with a camera *IS* a terrorist and nobody's going to stand up to this.I'd suggested many times before that the ONLY way this issue was going to be won was "citizens on patrol with lenses" ... NOBODY LISTENED. Since rail photogs have NOT proven that they're FRIENDS of law enforcement rather than adversaries, then yer all gonna go down. :( Sorry, I *did* advise ... NOBODY listened. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 11:29:29 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 30 10:19:31 2004. "Racial profiling," one word: "towelhead." :(And as for the Albany county jury, yes, THAT is "America." I almost SAT on that jury, I was up that week. I would have HUNG the jury if that was any satisfaction, but Albany is a VERY "conservative" place - mostly DEMOCRATS. Spit on a sidewalk up here and you do 90 days. :( "America" has wet bedsheets, and they VOTED for the pack of Depends. It's ALL over. Anyone who has repression in mind WINS. We gave up our freedom WILLINGLY though curiously, no more towelheads to worry about NOW that we have our "leader." :( MTA is going to VOTE on the ban, and in the affirmative. NOBODY has provided a salient point NOT to. :( :( Welcome to the New World Order, America VOTED FOR IT. And SO it shall be. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 11:34:19 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 30 10:45:51 2004. No, up here, the police are underpaid GODS ... and the smallest, pettiest crime is NEWS. While "police brutality" is an issue in the city, it isn't so much up here - and it isn't like there's people who care, and have proven that it happens among our own - we don't have many liberal republicans around here - we have old fashioned "conservative democrats" who rule this town - 1930's relics all ... "they MUST have done something to DESERVE what they got, because cops are our neighbor next door." "And God would NEVER punish the innocent, so that guy DESERVED it." Such is the mentality once you get 100 miles out of the city. :(And OUR yahoos are what was appointed to YOUR MTA ... "if photography is a terrorist threat, then we MUST stop it." Word. :( |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Dec 30 12:30:32 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 11:22:23 2004. Hey, I said I'd be more than willing to participate in a joint effort with the police to prevent something. That is, only if photography/videography was still allowed. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 12:50:17 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Dec 30 12:30:32 2004. Don't shoot the messenger, I've been through a few "war times" before and this whole situation is just another in the endless "stream" of diaper-wetting ... but in the end, with all this political posturing that has us afraid of our brother and sister muslims, well ... if being a "towelhead" is scary, then those "terrorists with lenses" must be a full diaper. :(Fast is, the ONLY way to defeat the "gestapo" is to prove TO the "gestapo" that having cameras in the subway makes their job EASIER, rather than more difficult ... I'd SUGGESTED that perhaps shutterbugs might emulate Curtis SLIWA and do a "glass angels" or similar "media campaign" to indicate that "many eyes who can RECORD" are better than NONE. But NO. nobody listened. This thing is *SO* gonna happen. :( |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 13:14:14 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 12:50:17 2004. I have it on very good authority that Governor Pataki has come out strongly against the proposal, and he does have influence with the MTA.There is still a chance. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 13:51:32 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 13:14:14 2004. I *pray* with the optimism, but in the end, you'll see that George ELMER Paturkey is nothing but a pander bear who takes MORE days off that President George W (?) Bush. Bless him for stepping up to0 the podium, but in the end, let's see what REALLY happens. :(I *know* the witch ... 'nuff said. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 30 17:45:29 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 30 08:47:53 2004. Its too bad they cannot be sued for theft of TIME - "TIME IS MONEY"! |
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Posted by RJM on Thu Dec 30 18:46:05 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Bingham C50 on Thu Dec 30 13:14:14 2004. That's good news! |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 18:51:22 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Dec 30 08:47:53 2004. Even though they did give him back his camera, I still consider it theft. It's like someone mugging you and then giving your wallet back, they still took it.I won't give any of my belongings to anyone without a fight, even a police officer. As long as I'm on a public street, they have no right to detain or seize my property. |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 19:12:17 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Dec 30 11:29:29 2004. What a time of mediocrity in America. :-( |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 19:12:50 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 18:51:22 2004. I won't give any of my belongings to anyone without a fight, even a police officer.Fight a cop-- end up DEAD |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 19:15:47 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 19:12:50 2004. Just because someone has a badge doesn't give them the right to break the law. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 19:23:49 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 19:15:47 2004. Ask Diallo |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Dec 30 21:01:46 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 19:12:50 2004. Fight a cop-- end up DEADHeh. Cops seem to have this uncanny ability to come out second-best whenever push (literally) comes to shove. You always seem to read these stories in which some street thug violently resists arrest and three or four cops end up going off duty with injuries. I think you have to take a physical unfitness test to become a cop today :) My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 21:48:45 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Dec 30 21:01:46 2004. God made men. Samuel Colt made them equal. |
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Posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 22:00:49 2004, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by BIE on Thu Dec 30 21:48:45 2004. It is good to be physically fit but if you beat up a cop his fellow officers +will+ make you regret it. some beat up cops mean a dead thug. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jan 1 21:02:25 2005, in response to Re: photographer taken to police station, posted by R40slantontheB on Thu Dec 30 18:51:22 2004. Your views on what theft is are not shared by anyone else. |
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