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Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Nov 8 12:03:01 2006, in response to Why does everybody hate the R44s?, posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:56:21 2006. I didn't like them because they were slow as heck. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Nov 8 14:30:05 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 7 23:30:57 2006. I meant some of their products are overrated. I think Budd was a great railcar manufacturer. They probably would've done a better job with the R44s than St Louis Car Co. If only they won the bid on the R62s, they would have survived the 1980s. :) |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Nov 8 15:59:26 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. R142, R142A, R143, R160A, R160B and anything else in the genus.-w- |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Nov 8 16:03:43 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 8 10:44:33 2006. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 8 17:02:52 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Nov 8 15:59:26 2006. At least their door chimes are in tune.:) |
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Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s? |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 8 17:46:49 2006, in response to Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s?, posted by WayneJay on Wed Nov 8 12:03:01 2006. They're not slow. They just feel like they're slow because they ride smooth, but not as smooth as the new tech trains. Sometimes it can be slow because of the TO. |
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Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 8 18:02:24 2006, in response to Why does everybody hate the R44s?, posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:56:21 2006. Their status as lemons has survived up to the present, even through GOH. 25 years ago, it was the R46 receiving all the bad pub. They're the first 75' cars, the first to not have railfan windows. Personally, these are why I like the R44's, but I'm in the extreme minority. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 8 18:31:12 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. They took away the RFW. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 8 23:24:58 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. Of all the things to hate, why would you even consider hating a piece of mechanical equipment? |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 9 00:07:19 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. R44/46/68 |
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Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s? |
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Posted by Market-Frankford on Thu Nov 9 00:46:03 2006, in response to Re: Why does everybody hate the R44s?, posted by WayneJay on Wed Nov 8 12:03:01 2006. Keep in mind this is the world's slowest subway. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 9 02:56:57 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. If you answer,your a pretty sick person in need of true medical help.A train is an OBJECT. A convayance... A ways and means to get around. If you swear at it..it wont respond. If you HIT IT..you'll most likely hurt yourself. |
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Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 03:10:12 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Nov 8 08:55:19 2006. Are there any surviving Multis anywhere?To keep this thread marginally on-topic: I would not be particularly fond of Multis. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by 5119 on Thu Nov 9 03:31:15 2006, in response to Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 03:10:12 2006. Nilet:"I never rode them, so I can't comment. What was wrong with them? |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 04:19:47 2006, in response to Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 03:10:12 2006. As a former motorman, sure would have liked to pull handle on them and check them out. I've heard from older-timers that they were dogs, but only way to tell for sure is to run 'em and see how they run and stop. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:37:42 2006, in response to Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 03:10:12 2006. No. Like the C types, they got sent to the scrapper and none survived. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:39:37 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 04:19:47 2006. FWIH, they were swift, but had braking issues. Overshooting stations was a constant problem, forcing motormen (no chicks ever operated these babies) to operate them very carefully. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 9 12:53:51 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:39:37 2006. Did you ever read the short blurb, "Runaway Multi," in Subway Cars of the BMT? |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 9 12:54:38 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 04:19:47 2006. I always wonder how the multis would have done on CPW. If anything, they would have screamed on that express run! |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 9 12:55:19 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:37:42 2006. Too bad they didn't keep one of the BMT Bluebirds. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 12:56:33 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:39:37 2006. That's what I'd heard ... really wish I'd gotten a chance to see for myself. I did get to operate a pair of gatecar/Q cars in schoolcar, but it was less than a half hour of cab time there. HATED them with their whacky reversed stands, and the need to keep your thumb on the elevator controller or dump. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:59:40 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 12:56:33 2006. There's a story in Greller's BMT book about one northbound consist near the end of their lifespans overshooting Myrtle/Broadway so severely that the entire train cleared the interlocking before stopping. This may be why these cars were scrapped before the D types, despite being 7-8 years younger. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Nov 9 13:57:46 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 9 04:19:47 2006. I've heard from older-timers that they were dogs, but only way to tell for sure is to run 'em and see how they run and stop.Oftentimes, they didn't stop :) --Mark |
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What subway car(s) are your least favorite |
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Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Thu Nov 9 15:27:22 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006. I rephrased it due to controversy with the original title. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by tydev417 on Thu Nov 9 16:13:23 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 9 02:56:57 2006. That's kind of true...whether you hate it or not, it's still going to be running in service until it's time for them to be retired. |
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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 9 16:14:42 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by tydev417 on Thu Nov 9 16:13:23 2006. That's not the issue. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by JPC on Thu Nov 9 16:16:25 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 9 12:54:38 2006. Yeah, but would they stop at the end... |
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Re: What subway car(s) are your least favorite |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 9 18:43:16 2006, in response to What subway car(s) are your least favorite, posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Thu Nov 9 15:27:22 2006. Good man.Now..do you mean CURRENT subway car...or ANY car from history? I don't dislike any of them..though I do have my favorites.. Well..thats not quite true...I don't really care much for the R68/68A cars. I do,on the other hand,"Like" the R42's since I remember the fondly from the early days..they were VERY NICE when new. I also like the 46's..they are among my favorites. But..I don't care much for the "hippos"..can do without them. |
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Re: What subway car(s) are your least favorite |
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Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Thu Nov 9 18:56:18 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) are your least favorite, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 9 18:43:16 2006. But the R68 and R68A has high reliablity, something in which we all should agree on. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 19:16:03 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 9 12:37:42 2006. :( |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 9 19:17:43 2006, in response to Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 9 12:55:19 2006. True. It was kinds weird that it was AMUE with a combined power controller. |
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Re: Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 9 20:08:04 2006, in response to Digression Alert (Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.), posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 9 03:10:12 2006. No...All were sent to the torch...and its a shame too. I managed to catch sight of ONE when I first set foot in NYC... |
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