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What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006

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What NYCTA Subway Car or cars do you hate?

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by xtimx on Tue Nov 7 13:35:16 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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r44

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Nilet on Tue Nov 7 13:51:08 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by xtimx on Tue Nov 7 13:35:16 2006.

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IAWTPAWLTA:

R46 and R68. They're slow and awkward. I'd tolerate an R68 narrow-cab-forward, but those won't be running any time soon...

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Nov 7 14:00:48 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R-7s

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Nov 7 14:04:34 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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All that don't have a RFW.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 7 14:17:29 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R68A's.


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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Nov 7 14:34:04 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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It's a close tie between R142 and R160, with R44 in 3rd place.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by murray1575 on Tue Nov 7 15:02:01 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R40 Slants and R40M - St. Louis didn't do a good job with the car bodies (like Budd did with the R32) and the slants are plain ugly with the gates that had to be added. I expect the R32's to outlast them. I used to hate R16's but they are long gone.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Nov 7 15:07:20 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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2600 series

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 7 15:12:11 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R160.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by R384149 on Tue Nov 7 15:17:18 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R142, R142A, R143, R160A, R160B, R44, i dont much like R46s but theyre very smooth when riding them, i would like R68/A alot more if they were still singles, same goes for the R62/As.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 7 15:37:00 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R27/30s

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 7 15:37:22 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R62 and R62a.

No personality whatsoever.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by The Maven on Tue Nov 7 15:40:06 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R Mother#$&@#&! 44s



Can NOT stand those death traps!

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by P-rad M on Tue Nov 7 16:20:27 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R38, R44, and R68, but not the R68A.

P-rad M

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by kawasakir142 on Tue Nov 7 16:38:41 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by P-rad M on Tue Nov 7 16:20:27 2006.

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The R44 is the weakest link to me because the floors look like nyc streets with dunes and potholes and shit, and also them bitches b leakin when they in the rain so if you are on a computer and the water drips on your laptop you're screwed.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by P-rad M on Tue Nov 7 16:59:18 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by kawasakir142 on Tue Nov 7 16:38:41 2006.

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Well, I totally agree with you there. But the R44 isn't the only one that leaks, the R40 be leaking alot also.

P-rad M

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 17:22:11 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Nilet on Tue Nov 7 13:51:08 2006.

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Those are my least favorite cars, too. Their get-up-and-go got up and left when the final field shunt step was disabled. I will say this much: the R-68s do quite well on the Broadway express.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 17:23:28 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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I didn't particularly care for the BMT standards when they were still around.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 17:43:55 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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My list:
R44- Poor condition, slow doors and not so great MDBF.
R40S/M- Poor Condtion.
R42- Poor Condition.
R38- Poor Condition.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 7 17:48:26 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 17:43:55 2006.

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So what do you mean by hate/despise?

You wouldn't railfan them?
You wouldn't ride them?
You wouldn't take photos of them?
You wouldn't look at them?

What?

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 7 17:48:51 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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I don't hate any of them.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 7 17:50:57 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R38's.

Everything manufactured after 1992.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by R30A on Tue Nov 7 17:51:04 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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I dont hate any cars, but the R142/As are my least favored ones...

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Nov 7 17:52:00 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Nov 7 14:04:34 2006.

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Here Here!!

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Nov 7 19:08:36 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by P-rad M on Tue Nov 7 16:59:18 2006.

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Some R38s and R42s have leaking roofs as well.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Karl B on Tue Nov 7 19:56:38 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 17:23:28 2006.

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At least their roofs didn't leak!

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 20:06:32 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Karl B on Tue Nov 7 19:56:38 2006.

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True, but by the time I saw them for the first time, I'd already gotten used to seeing route and destination signs on the end bulkheads, and the BMT standards had neither. Plus I thought they looked just plain ugly. Mind you, I was all of ten when I first saw them and didn't know how durable and indestructible they were.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Nov 7 20:06:35 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by R30A on Tue Nov 7 17:51:04 2006.

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I hate the R142 and the R160s. They're pieces of plastic scrap crap. I do like the R142As and the R143s however.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 7 20:17:51 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 7 15:12:11 2006.

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Oh, despise. No, just least favorite.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 7 20:45:31 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 17:22:11 2006.

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Where is this express that you speak of?


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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 7 20:48:52 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 17:43:55 2006.

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A subway car can have the best MDBF in the world, but you don't have to like it.


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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Tue Nov 7 20:52:09 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R44: I really didn't like the side glass (windows?) on the doors, but that's just me. I also don't like the silver painted stripe, not as appealing as the pure steel on the R46. Ridewise, no real complaint, except a little bumpy at times, just a little.
R68/A: For some reason, these cars are scratchitti targets all the time. And, they seem to drag too, but again, that's just me.
R142s: I don't like these, but yet I like the R142As (Most of the 4's anyway). The R142s have aged very quickly to me, before they could really be put to use (A lot of the side signs on the ones I ride have some blackouts, but so do some of the R142As).
Everything else, I have no complaint, except the rusting on the R38s. Gotta go.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:34:31 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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The R40! They are so freakin ugly!! Also, the R142 because it's ugly too. And it along with the R143 and R160 have no RFW.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:48:15 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:34:31 2006.

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And the R44, R46, and R68, also because they're ugly.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:51:08 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Nov 7 20:06:35 2006.

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But they're almost all the same. The only differences that I see are that the R160s and R143s have bent sides and the R160s have the FIND displays.

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Why does everybody hate the R44s?

Posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:56:21 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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Why does everybody hate the R44s? Personally, I think they're butt ugly, but then again, I think that of the R40 Slants, R44s, R46s, R68s, R142s, R14s, R160s, and to some degree the R62As.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 7 23:19:56 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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Anything built after 1940 with the exception of the R-32

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Nov 7 23:24:18 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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The R44s; they're slow, have dim lighting,have a crappy ride, have slow doors, and they're not built as well as the R46s. If Budd built them, they would've been better.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 7 23:30:57 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Nov 7 23:24:18 2006.

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How are the R-44's slow?

I thought Budd is overrated?

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 23:53:33 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Nov 7 20:06:35 2006.

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Hate the R160's?

How?

They are almost the same subway model as the 143's!

Just minor changes.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by 5119 on Wed Nov 8 03:17:27 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 20:06:32 2006.

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Steinway Cars when they were in service. Too slow!

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 8 04:03:30 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 7 17:48:26 2006.

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He's biased for R68's for some reason.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 8 04:05:26 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Market-Frankford on Tue Nov 7 22:51:08 2006.

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Kawasaki's cars are pretty nice and the R142A and R143 have been great.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Nov 8 06:11:31 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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R62 - Too dark inside and the A/C is ineffectual at best when the train is crowded during the summer

R142 - If you are standing and not holding onto a pole for dear life, you will be tossed across the car

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 8 08:26:44 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Nov 7 20:45:31 2006.

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On the N and Q between Union Square and 34th St. Union Square to Canal isn't too bad, either.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Nov 8 08:55:19 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Nov 7 14:04:34 2006.

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All that don't have a RFW.

Did that include the Multi's?

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Wed Nov 8 10:29:38 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 8 04:03:30 2006.

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The R68 Subway Cars and R68A Subway Cars are my favorites because of their high MDBF and beautiful Subway Car bodies. I also like the R32, R46, R62, R62A, R142, R142A, R143, R160A and R160B.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 8 10:44:33 2006, in response to Re: What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Wed Nov 8 10:29:38 2006.

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I like other beautiful bodies more.

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Re: What subway car(s) do you despise.

Posted by WayneJay on Wed Nov 8 11:58:16 2006, in response to What subway car(s) do you despise., posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Nov 7 13:34:04 2006.

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I never liked the R-16. Of today's recent cars I'm not too fond of the R-142 either.

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