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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 16 22:56:54 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. hilarious. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 16 23:10:20 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 16 22:56:54 2006. Unbelievible,if you ask me...I mean..how would you get away with something like that? He built a SUBWAY SYSTEM..and NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING? Not even the LIRR or the town itself? This I would have to see for myself. Incredible... |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 16 23:17:39 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. Does it connect to 76th Street? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jul 16 23:18:59 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 16 23:17:39 2006. Of course!Funny piece; nicely written. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 16 23:20:52 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. Nice joke..Peter Kalikow..head of the PORT AUTHORITY of NEW YORK. Yeah,this story is about as phony as a 3 DOLLAR BILL. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 23:25:07 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 16 23:17:39 2006. Nay, it connects with the subway tunnel to Havana! ;-D |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 23:26:34 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. Written by Dan of "Dan's Papers" (the local paper for East Hampton, Amagansett, and Montauk, LI. |
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Posted by Fytton on Mon Jul 17 05:38:32 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. I take it this article was published on April 1. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 17 06:43:03 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. "The Sag Harbor station for the G Train."Wow, from Smith-9th Sts. to Sag Harbor. Makes the run from 207th St. to Far Rockaway look like the Franklin Shuttle. I hope illegal substances weren't used in conjuring up this piece ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Jul 17 06:57:40 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. This *IS* a joke, right? |
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Posted by avid reader on Mon Jul 17 07:44:34 2006, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. Will there be a Fantrip, when, where, and how much?avid |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 17 11:16:43 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Jul 17 06:57:40 2006. It better be,cause there is NO WAY something like this could be possible.Right under the LIRR railstation? Next to a parking lot? 18 stations..? Lines WITH BRANCHES? Totally imposible. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Jul 17 11:20:46 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by avid reader on Mon Jul 17 07:44:34 2006. As soon as we discover the 76th St. Station, of course. :-D |
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Posted by The Queen on Mon Jul 17 17:44:02 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 17 11:16:43 2006. Yeah, its a joke. I saw this a few days ago and decided to E-Mail the paper. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 17 17:58:26 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 17 06:43:03 2006. Only if the G train runs from 76th Street to Sag Harbour. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Jul 17 18:31:39 2006, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Jul 17 11:20:46 2006. Without joking, there is a similar subway completely built in Cincinatti, Ohio with platforms and stairways in place but no tracks. It was not constructed clandestinely, but was built with the idea of bringing local streetcar and interurban lines into downtown Cincinatti as was done with Boston's first subway. Unfortunately, due to typical political wrangling, by the time the subway tunnels were completed, most of the electric railways it was designed to serve were either bustituted or abandoned entirely so the tunnels were abandoned and sealed. At one point, the city used part of one of the tunnels for a water main, but other than that the tunnels have fallen into decay. There is a website that has photos but I can't recall what it is.By the way, the short Pneumatic tube subway built by Alfred Ely Beach in lower Manhattan was entirely constructed without the knowledge of the city fathers especially Boss Tweed. The plans as originally submitted to the city called for 2 small tubes to be built to carry parcels similar to the tube systems in department stores. Beach, however secretly had one large tube constructed big enough for a small passenger railway car. Of course, when Tweed found out about it, he immediately had it shut down and all remains of it were destroyed when the BMT was being built in the City Hall area. So, in theory, it might be possible to have built the apocryphal "Montauk Subway" without the local politicians being fully aware of what is really going on. |
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Posted by 67th Avenue on Wed Mar 18 14:38:22 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 17 18:31:39 2006. randyo, http://www.cincinnatti.net/subway.html Seven miles of the sixteen mile subway line and a few stations were built as you mentioned. Also, remember the "supposed" Dayton, Ohio subway? Cleveland was the only city to actually put a subway line in service and IIRC the Red Line uses overhead caternary with stations that are spaced and is assigned the route number 66 or 67. |
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Posted by 67th Avenue on Wed Mar 18 14:40:55 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 17 18:31:39 2006. randyo, http://www.cincinnatti-transit.net/subway.html Seven miles of the sixteen mile subway line and a few stations were built in Cincinnatti, Ohio as you mentioned. Also, remember the "supposed" Dayton, Ohio subway? Cleveland was the only city to actually put a subway line in service and IIRC the Red Line uses overhead caternary with stations that are spaced and is assigned the route number 66 or 67. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 18 15:05:28 2009, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. There is a much better chance of the existence of 76th Street than any of this nonsense. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Mar 18 15:11:12 2009, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. just google maps to that location and use the satellite view to get close in behind that post office to see if any digging is/was donethis might show evidence of the story...which I think is a great fiction story....how high is the water table in that area ? maybe it's a divers subway heh, heh, Karl M |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:17:34 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 16 22:56:54 2006. If nothing else a foamer's dream! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:27:37 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 17 18:31:39 2006. When Tweed found out about Beach's subway it was already opened and in operation. He allowed Beach to have his way until he tried to expand the subway to the rest of Manhattan. The BMT didn't build their subway near City Hall until 1912. By thrn Beach's subway was already closed and forgotten and Tweed was long out of power. |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Mar 18 15:29:57 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 23:25:07 2006. This is a true story:I was soon leaving D.C. for a trip to Amsterdam and London, and was standing in a bar telling a guy I had just met that I was taking this trip and looking forward to taking the new tunnel. It quickly became apparent he thought I was taking the train from New York to London. When explained that I meant the Chunnel, he said, in total seriousness, "but they're building one from New York to London, right?" Yeah, and one from Miami, too. With a stop in Havana. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Mar 18 15:31:05 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:17:34 2009. Seriously, what would the implications be if this were true ? how would New York State react to this I bet it would be a wild time in the Governors office, what would the reaction be from the MTA ? and the people who live in the tows over this subway, pandemonion would most likely result I wish it would be true just to see the end result.Karl M |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:37:38 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Mar 18 15:31:05 2009. Since there has been no reaction from the NYS Governor's office or from the MTA, the subway to the Hamptons was never started. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 18 15:39:32 2009, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. It's a shame that this has idea has been seemingly abandoned, Suffolk Transit is a joke and the LIRR service out there is a joke. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:42:33 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 18 15:39:32 2009. I don't think this project was ever started. |
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Posted by error46146 on Wed Mar 18 18:17:23 2009, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. Nice 3-year old gravedig lol |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Mar 18 18:44:22 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 23:26:34 2006. This is not new. Wasn't his written several years ago? Believe I first read it then. And wasn't it written for April Fools? |
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Posted by jabrams on Wed Mar 18 19:51:12 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by error46146 on Wed Mar 18 18:17:23 2009. Why is an area of all farms in the 1920's would you build a subway, and not a ground level or elevated line anyway. I guess it was three years ago that this first appeared. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Mar 19 08:25:05 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Mar 18 15:37:38 2009. BUT WHAT IF....it existed, what would this do to the area ? the reaction from the residents would alone be priceless. Karl M |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 19 11:09:02 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 16 23:10:20 2006. Yep. There's one factor that most may have forgotten...Where's The Yard?!! One thing to hide some tunnels underground, pretty hard to hide a whole yard. :) |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Mar 20 10:09:21 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 16 23:10:20 2006. Yeah, it's a bunch of horseapples. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Mar 20 12:34:15 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Mar 19 08:25:05 2009. Well I guess speculation is beyond the abilities on this subject here, it would be interesting on how such an operation would work...oh well so much for imagination. Karl M |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sat Mar 21 13:19:00 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 16 23:17:39 2006. Why, yes! Yes, Virginia! Yes it does! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Mar 21 18:49:14 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Mar 18 15:39:32 2009. Seemingly abandoned? It never began to begin with, it's a joke piece. It's like The Onion. While I agree Suffolk transit is a joke...I can't believe you thought this article was real! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 22 01:39:06 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Mar 21 18:49:14 2009. Lol yeah I know I'm embarrassed now, thanks to you and douceman though. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sun Mar 22 09:49:28 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 16 23:17:39 2006. You stole my words!! That was the first thing I thought of reading this! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Mar 22 11:05:38 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 22 01:39:06 2009. I once thought there might be something to the idea about a subway to The Hamptons. At the time my wife and I had spent a few days at Montauk. We had gone to a discussion of Carl Fisher's plans to build up the area. I remember a few people (me included) were wondering if there would be a high speed subway coming from Queens out there. The answer was a definate "NO!" The timing was good. The IND was being built and maybe something from the IND Second System would go all the way out there. It would have been interesting. But it wasn't going to happen. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:06:45 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by randyo on Mon Jul 17 18:31:39 2006. Yes, the Beach tunnel was built clandestinely. But it was no more than a few blocks long, if that. And it was in the 1870s...And the Cincinatti subway is apparently no secret, though I only learned of it a few days ago, on this board. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:26:08 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Mar 20 12:34:15 2009. If you wanted a theoretical discussion of how this system could work-I'd be happy to oblige you if I could. But since I know nothing of the towns out there, I really cannot.I do suppose it would have led to urbanization of the area if it actually took place. Unfortunately, the LIRR makes almost no secret of its wish to abandon Eastern Suffolk, so we see where transit on far LI is going. I've posted some ideas about hooking up a full Second Avenue Subway to the SIR (without going through Brooklyn) and also running trains from the SIR North Shore line to Midtown. Those thoughts attracted no dicsussion either... |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Mar 22 16:32:28 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:06:45 2009. I think the Beach tunnel was at most a block or two long. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 22 17:57:28 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 22 01:39:06 2009. Haha, that's what we're here for! :) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Mar 22 18:57:46 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 19 11:09:02 2009. Simple-- they built the rest of it and ran out of money to build the yards, so that's why it ultimately failed. A yard could be underground too-- the 1, for example, has an underground yard for layups and put-ins. See-- an explanation for everything. :) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 22 18:59:54 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 22 17:57:28 2009. Chris, have you ever been to the Bellport Outlet Center? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 19:05:22 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Mar 22 16:32:28 2009. 312 feet- Warren to Murray Streets. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Mar 23 07:09:00 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 22 18:59:54 2009. BUMP hoping that you're online right now. |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Mon Mar 23 08:58:54 2009, in response to Re: Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:26:08 2009. When I lived in Babylon in the late 1960's I attended a transit proposal meeting led by the county about future plans for the LIRR one idea was to put the LIRR in an open cut below surface traffic the reply from attending LIRR officials was that the idea was discussed and an examination was made of the areas but came back that the water table in some areas was just too high canceling out any hopes for an open cut for the LIRR, so the elevated decision was made, so when I red this article I thought it was bogus, it was fun to read all the responses to this article. Karl M |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Jul 19 13:17:42 2021, in response to Long Forgotten Subway system in The Hamptons???, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jul 16 22:51:01 2006. I wonder who thught this up? |
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