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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by mambomta on Thu Apr 27 17:40:34 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by tydev417 on Mon Apr 24 22:22:54 2006.

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How can Siemens be the worst when we have to actually see one in service (except for the test R143) and the R160s will be the first?

No R160 will be built by Siemens. They will be built by Kawasaki and Alsthom. The R143 was built by Kawasaki only. A portion of the R160 cars will use a Siemens propulsion package. Siemens has nothing to do with the new subway cars other than providing components.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Apr 27 17:41:20 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 26 21:14:06 2006.

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I've been to some WMATA stations before and they are DEEP. I can't imagine what a direct escalator ride from this new level to the street would be like.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Apr 27 17:45:00 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by mambomta on Thu Apr 27 17:40:34 2006.

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I hope they get the M8 contract.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 27 18:13:05 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Apr 27 17:41:20 2006.

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There won't be one. Read the documents online.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks(m-8)

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Apr 27 19:36:54 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Thu Apr 27 17:45:00 2006.

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Siemens has never ever built a FRA compliant car in USA or a Heavy rail car, so the chances of them getting M-8 contract are slim to non.
Kawasaki is contender but just about everything in specs reads must be same as M-7, must be compatible with M-7 , must look like M-7 etc so my bet is that its 99.9 % sure Bombardier gets the contract

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 08:33:32 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 27 18:13:05 2006.

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It'll probably be akin to the PATH station at the ex-WTC site, with multiple mezzanines before reaching track level deux.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 10:09:34 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 08:33:32 2006.

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There are graphics of it, I believe, in the online documents.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:31:31 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 10:09:34 2006.

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Unfortunately, due to technical issues @ home (damn hard drive failing after only a YEAR), and with this stupid @$$ proxy server my company uses here, I can't view anything related to "travel", including anything on the MTA website.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Fytton on Fri Apr 28 10:40:39 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 08:33:32 2006.

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"It'll probably be akin to the PATH station at the ex-WTC site, with multiple mezzanines before reaching track level deux."

Very likely. Very long escalators are possible, but owing to the slope the top level is then a long way (horizontally) from the bottom level. While this can be useful, it probably isn't helpful when you put in a new facility vertically beneath an existing one. With several shorter ones, they go down in zig-zag fashion.

Very long escalators can be alarming to timorous users, too. of course, the Soviet Union didn't worry about that sort of thing, so there are very long escalators on the Moscw and St Petersburg metros. These are very deep - rumouredly so that the stations could double up as nuclear shelters if necessary.

The longest one in London is at Holborn station, I believe.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Apr 28 10:43:26 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:31:31 2006.

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Do what I do. Always be friendly with your companies IT people.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:45:27 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Apr 28 10:43:26 2006.

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I am. They know I'm computer-savvy and have helped co-workers so they didn't hafta call MIS for a troubleshoot call. They're just following orders from the pricks at the top of the MIS chain out in New Brunswick, NJ.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Apr 28 10:51:06 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:45:27 2006.

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Too bad.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Apr 28 11:04:43 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Fytton on Fri Apr 28 10:40:39 2006.

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No, the Moscow subway was built before nuclear weapons. But they were designed to serve as bomb shelters. People may not survice a nuclear blast down there, but they ought to survive conventional bombing, assuming that they will be able to get out somewhere.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 12:06:05 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:31:31 2006.

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Pick up a new hard drive. They are cheap. Get one that is less than $0.25 per GB. Yeah, it stinks that many hard drives only have a 1 year warranty now.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by mambomta on Fri Apr 28 12:12:42 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 10:31:31 2006.

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(damn hard drive failing after only a YEAR)

At work, I've had video cards die on me a week after the warranty ran out.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 12:59:34 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 12:06:05 2006.

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I'm bringing the new one I bought (wasn't detected or was detected as "BAD" by the SATA controller on my motherboard) back to the store, then on Sunday, bringing my whole system in to the store where I bought my mobo and CPU chip to see if they can diagnose any problems with the mobo (in case it wasn't just the HD that went...) or Power Supply.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 13:11:38 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 12:59:34 2006.

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I actually have an 80GB SATA Maxtor that went bad in less than a year.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 13:28:36 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 13:11:38 2006.

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I went back to the store. The technician put it into another computer, and it recognized the drive. The fault now either lies in the settings, something on the motherboard having gone bad, or the power supply not supplying it power.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Apr 28 13:31:24 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 13:11:38 2006.

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"I actually have an 80GB SATA Maxtor that went bad in less than a year."

I have had several Maxtor SATAs that failed within a year. They replaced those. Mine were 120s, but they were a mirrored pair on a machine that ran constantly.

Now I am using Seagate 160GBs in a RAID-5 array with automatic dfs shut off.

ROAR

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Fri Apr 28 13:32:58 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Apr 28 13:31:24 2006.

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This is a Seagate Barracuda 300GB SATA, replacing a Samsung (bad bad BAD choice...) 300GB IDE drive. I'm still too new to the whole SATA and RAID scene.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 28 16:24:20 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 27 18:13:05 2006.

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I said I can't imagine what it WOULD be like, not WILL be like. Learn the English language.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 16:46:34 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 28 16:24:20 2006.

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That doesn't make any sense, since you would already know what it's like. The new LIRR station will be 155 feet below the street. Wheaton station on WMATA has a 230 ft (vertical height) escalator. So Wheaton's escalator is longer than ESA's would be.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 28 17:02:44 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 16:46:34 2006.

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Did I say I've been to Wheaton? I said I know what some WMATA stations are like. Forget it, stupid comment with an even dumber reply.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 28 17:05:24 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Apr 28 17:02:44 2006.

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If you've been to "some deep ones" then it is likely you've been to one deeper than 155 feet.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 28 22:51:20 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Fytton on Fri Apr 28 10:40:39 2006.

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I think currently one of the longest, if not the longest escalators in the subway system are at Broadway Junction between the J and the A.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 29 20:55:57 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 28 22:51:20 2006.

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They say it's the longest.

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Re: The LIRR President Speaks

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 2 14:13:32 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Tunnel Rat on Tue Apr 25 16:15:25 2006.

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I am the other.

The other two?

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