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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 25 10:46:05 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:06:11 2006. Who cares? If RonIsBS leaves because of it, I say proff proff proff proff ... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Apr 25 10:51:14 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 20:32:01 2006. I do not use it either. I think it serves to glorify a certain poster who is a cancer on this board. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 11:03:03 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 25 10:46:05 2006. Proff, trough, cough, stauff, Klauff, Zoff... |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 25 11:10:25 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 10:09:05 2006. You aren't bound to use the slang to be part of a group, but deriding the slang the group uses is verboten.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 11:20:57 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 25 11:10:25 2006. No it isn't. I deride it again here! |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Apr 25 12:17:49 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 25 10:13:32 2006. this is more an anti social bunch of weirdo's that a social event.lets just say that I am one of maybe 3 people here that are normal ;-) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 12:20:25 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Apr 25 12:17:49 2006. Which means you've been processed sufficiently to be placed in an Oracle database. :0) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 12:28:08 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Apr 25 12:17:49 2006. That's why I always read your posts.ROAR |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 25 14:18:11 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 11:20:57 2006. Then you can kiss the decoder ring and double secret handshake goodbye, chum!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Apr 25 15:51:54 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 24 23:30:09 2006. My list was short only because I was making it off the top of my head. I suspect that you'd find an apartment building / complex within walking distance (say 1/2 mile) of every Nassau County LIRR station with the exception of Westwood, Lakeview, Hemsptead Gardens, Country Life Press, Nassau Blvd, Stewart Manor, Carle Place, Cold Spring Harbor, Plandome and many of the Oyster Bay branch stations. If you want to cut the distance down to just a block or two, you could probably scratch Bellerose, Island Park and maybe some others off the list. Again, this is just off memory alone.Garden City has two very large complexes just north of the Garden City Hotel (actually, it may just be one complex with two large buildings). In addition, I recall more residential buildings along Stewart Ave and Seventh Street. I thought Valley Stream had more multi-family units along both Roosevelt Avenue and Rockaway Avenue. But perhaps you're more familiar with the details there. |
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Tue Apr 25 16:15:25 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Apr 25 12:17:49 2006. I am the other. |
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Tue Apr 25 16:21:39 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Tunnel Rat on Tue Apr 25 16:15:25 2006. correction,that should read i r de udder. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Tue Apr 25 17:11:54 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Apr 25 14:18:11 2006. That's not the only thing he can kiss... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 18:31:58 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Tunnel Rat on Tue Apr 25 16:21:39 2006. correction,that should read i r de udder.
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Posted by The TransitMan on Tue Apr 25 19:09:00 2006, in response to The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 21 23:55:11 2006. Has there been ANY mention of the Montauk Branch? I mean it would be nice to extend the electric portion to at least Patchogue or Speonk. There is PLENTY of ridership on that line and it will grow once the summer season begins! However, the ridership does hold up well during the non-summer months. |
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Posted by JR on Tue Apr 25 21:02:42 2006, in response to The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 21 23:55:11 2006. Thanks for the info.Did he elaborate about the East Side Access project? It seems to be pretty quiet at the worksite in LIC, and I can't find any new updates anywhere. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 21:28:52 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by JR on Tue Apr 25 21:02:42 2006. The LIRR has put the Manhattan (CM-009) and Queens tunnel contracts up for bid (this is the second time they've gone through that). Bids are supposed to be in by end of April. Then we'll see if they let the contracts. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 21:45:16 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 18:31:58 2006. Our cows would not let you get that close to them.But then the only time we have physical contact with them, they have their heads locked in a head gate, they are being steered, branded or injected. ROAR |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Apr 25 22:13:06 2006, in response to The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 21 23:55:11 2006. There will be another increase in dual mode service by the fall. With the march schedules, they have added a new Speonk dual mode train. Currently there are twoi or three on the port Jefferson line, two on the SPeonk runs, and one on the Oyster Bay line.They are looking to add another by fall. While he has said it will "probably" be put into service on the Speonk line, Oyster Bay has not been ruled out. They only have 22 dual mode locomotives, because out of the 23 they had, one was completely lost to fire. I have a question: Why do the Dual-Mode trains that go into Manhattan have two locomotives at each end instead of the usual one locomotive I usually see on diesel trains? They are EXTREMELY happy with the performance of the M7's. They have surpased all expectations. They had been expected to run at least 100,000 miles between breakdowns, and have consistintly exceeded that by landslides. Their are currently 800 and change M7's in service, 172 M3's, and 80-something M1's left. The M1's are expected to be completely gone in the near future. The M3's will be upgraded, and they have an option for more equipment. The diesel fleet has not been as promising, however, over the past few years they have become more and more reliable as the DM/DE30's are rebuilt. They are performing better than ever, although still under where they should have. There is about 180 M1s in service as of now, with the majority them being CCM (overhauled) M1s, there are around 80 non-overhauled M1s (I rode one last week) left. The M3s are in the process of being overhauled in phases. The first phase is completed with the next phase underway. 8) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 25 22:24:25 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Apr 25 22:13:06 2006. I have a question: Why do the Dual-Mode trains that go into Manhattan have two locomotives at each end instead of the usual one locomotive I usually see on diesel trains?To protect against gapping out. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 22:40:48 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Apr 25 22:13:06 2006. There is about 180 M1s in service as of now, with the majority them being CCM (overhauled) M1s, there are around 80 non-overhauled M1s (I rode one last week) left.I believe his chart had "80" listed, but perhaps you are correct, it could be "180". Either way, I definitely remember "80". Whether there was a "1" in front of that or not, is up for debate.... The 172 M3's I am 100% sure about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 23:09:15 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by JR on Tue Apr 25 21:02:42 2006. He touched on it. He said it was moving along. He also briefly discussed the new LIRR station in the third lower level of Grand Central, about 100 feet deep. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 23:12:37 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by The TransitMan on Tue Apr 25 19:09:00 2006. The Montauk Branch was touched on a little. Of course it was discussed on the demolition of PD Tower, and the new signalling system between Patchogue and Speonk. They don't have any more new service planned of the Montauk Branch though at this time, other than the potential autumn addition of a third dual mode out of Speonk. It's either going there or Oyster Bay, they haven't decided yet. Eventually, they they will look at developing service between Speonk and Patchogue a bit, but not yet.No further electrification of the Montauk branch is being planned or being looked at at this time. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 25 23:15:39 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 18:31:58 2006. You just reminded me of Selkirk - MOOOOOOOOOO!!! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 23:23:45 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Apr 25 22:13:06 2006. Third rail gaps in NYP are 200 to 600 feet long. You could stall a whole subway train in there if you were not careful. The engineer in the cab car can not see where the gaps are vis a vis the third rail pickups on his locomotive at the other end of the train.AMTK can do it because the engine is always in the lead, and the engineer can see the gaps and not stop on one of them. That said, the LION would put third rail pickups on the cab-car, and hard wire them back to the locomotive. Yes, the LION knows all about trying to cut cars with a live 750 volt trained lion, but the cutout can be in the cab car and it could be easily isolated once the train is running on diesel power. Besides most diesel yards are sans third rail anyway. ROAR (Lions are SMART... but nobody listens.) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 23:33:41 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 23:23:45 2006. I like your plan... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 23:52:07 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 25 23:15:39 2006. Yup!I miss Selkirk's posts. This is probably the longest gap away he's ever had from here.... |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Apr 26 01:00:13 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Apr 25 22:13:06 2006. I have a question: Why do the Dual-Mode trains that go into Manhattan have two locomotives at each end instead of the usual one locomotive I usually see on diesel trains?You have just forfeited all rights to the phrase "You do not know what you are talking about." I don't ever want to see you post that particular combination of words ever again because clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Apr 26 01:28:22 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by WillD on Wed Apr 26 01:00:13 2006. Put it behind you. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 26 01:32:21 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by WillD on Wed Apr 26 01:00:13 2006. "You have just forfeited all rights to the phrase "You do not know what you are talking about." I don't ever want to see you post that particular combination of words ever again because clearly you have no idea what you are talking about."Nonsense! There are no foolish questions - just stupid mistakes! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 26 07:05:59 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by WillD on Wed Apr 26 01:00:13 2006. I agree. It's been discussed here so many times. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 26 07:36:51 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 22:40:48 2006. Oh, and just to add, someone in the audience did ask if they are keeping or overhauling any of the remaining M1's, and he said very clearly that every single one of them will be gone by the end of this M7 replacement project within the year. |
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Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Wed Apr 26 08:09:45 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 23:52:07 2006. Yea, I miss ol' Unca Kevin too. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 26 08:27:55 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 23:33:41 2006. Live High voltage wires can not go from car to car, only on permanently coupled units, like married pairs.as per FRA regulations. |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Apr 26 09:05:03 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 23:23:45 2006. Since when does Amtrak use third-rail locomotives? I thought all their electrics use the catenary. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 26 09:23:12 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Brighton Private on Wed Apr 26 09:05:03 2006. Since when does Amtrak use third-rail locomotives? I thought all their electrics use the catenary.You have much to learn, my young padawan :) 
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Posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Wed Apr 26 11:05:54 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Brighton Private on Wed Apr 26 09:05:03 2006. Their P32AC/DMs (Genesis IIs, identical to MNCR P32s) use underrunning 3rd rail shoes since they run on the Hudson Line from the moment it hits MNRR property in the Bronx, and switches to Diesel after the 3rd rail stops just north of Croton-Harmon Station in W'Chester.No catenary equipment on those uglies. |
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Posted by mambomta on Wed Apr 26 11:09:36 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Wed Apr 26 11:05:54 2006. Their P32AC/DMs (Genesis IIs, identical to MNCR P32s) use underrunning 3rd rail shoes since they run on the Hudson Line from the moment it hits MNRR property in the Bronx, and switches to Diesel after the 3rd rail stops just north of Croton-Harmon Station in W'Chester.Incorrect. Amtrak P32AC/DM locomotives use retractable overrunning 3rd rail shoes for use within Penn Station and the the approach to the Empire Line. Once the train emerges from Penn, they are on Diesel power. They cannot use MNR 3rd rail. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Apr 26 11:57:05 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 26 08:27:55 2006. OK, Permanently couple the trainsets and be done with it.Although I think a waiver is possible if a suitable fail-safe interlock could be designed. After all the FRA is supposed to support safety AND facilitate usablity. An optimal SAFE design CAN be made. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Apr 26 11:57:41 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Brighton Private on Wed Apr 26 09:05:03 2006. Maybe you have not ridden on the Empire Builder, and other Hudson River trains.ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 26 12:07:53 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by mambomta on Wed Apr 26 11:09:36 2006. Correct, Amtrak P32acdm's can not use MNCR third rail, only if they have major adjustments done and if shoes are oput on upside down.this has been done when the barge hit the Spuyten Duyvil Drawbridge and Amtrak had to use GCT for few days. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 26 12:11:06 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Apr 26 11:57:05 2006. Never gone happen, and no waivers are not possible, contactors would not work either as the current of a P32acdm is way to high to prevent flashovers on any such contactor. |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Apr 26 12:25:10 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Apr 26 09:23:12 2006. Of course you are right. That's what comes from living all these years in Washington. Totally forgot about the old NYC service that's now run out of Penn. |
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Posted by JR on Wed Apr 26 13:25:43 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Apr 25 21:28:52 2006. Ahh, we're still in the re-contracting stage... It's good news that it is moving forward! |
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Posted by JR on Wed Apr 26 13:35:45 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 25 23:09:15 2006. Thanks.The MTA has a good description of the station here: http://mta.info/capconstr/esas/elements.html Some of the highlights from the site: FACTS AND FIGURES The largest construction project ever undertaken by the MTA, the ESA project includes: * A new 8-track terminal at GCT, the first major rail station in Manhattan in over 90 years and the largest mined underground terminal ever built in the U.S. * 2 deep, underground station caverns mined out of solid rock beneath GCT, each 85.5 feet high, 58.5 feet wide and 1,142 feet long. * Largest passenger rail terminal built in the U.S. since the late 1930s * 4 new entrances at GCT * 7 miles of tunnels along 3.5 route miles * 50,000 feet of new track in underground tunnels * 1.225 million cubic yards of excavated soil and rock * 250,000 cubic yards of poured concrete * 18,500 tons of reinforcing steel * Over 300,000 square feet of new passenger concourse and service space within GCT |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Wed Apr 26 20:45:56 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Apr 26 12:07:53 2006. We do it opposite for dynamic testing of MNCR M7s on LIRR trackage. The world runs 'under-rail.' Subways and LIRR run over-rail. To run a P32ac on MNCR requires a mechanical adaptor on the shoe beam and a specific under-rail contact shoe...you cannot put a shoe upside down because undershoe uses a different shoe tension mechanism and shoe. Once contact shoe adaptor is installed, the adjustment with a shoe beam gauge is minor. Of course, what you cannot do is make the temporary moification in shop and move it back out on third rail overshoe.....OUCH! MNCR M7s are towed into Arch Street sans shoes. RRCI Peter |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 26 21:14:06 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by JR on Wed Apr 26 13:35:45 2006. A new 8-track terminal at GCT, the first major rail station in Manhattan in over 90 years and the largest mined underground terminal ever built in the United StatesI forgot to mention, he did say that the LIRR Concourse will be 4 tracks wide, on two levels, meaning a total of 8 tracks. He said it would be the deepest station in the US, akin to some in Great Britain. |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Wed Apr 26 23:29:25 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 25 21:45:16 2006. Udderly rediculous. My neighbors heffers ran my fence line into the flower beds. I ran out in combat boots and wearing something pretty brief armed with a fibreglas electric fence post....whupped their asses worse than the Ohio kid sentenced to 'whupass' in Singapore. Whack whack whack on heffers butt as hard as I could firing for effect. No response. My fenceline is down standing pretty nekked poorly armed and now the bull is looking at me. Ohhhh sk...... |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Apr 27 17:26:36 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 23 18:08:16 2006. Batbus? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu Apr 27 17:31:53 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Subway Camper on Mon Apr 24 21:47:07 2006. haha no |
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