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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Apr 24 16:36:30 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 24 16:23:50 2006. Buy NY was why. Those locomotives were built by SuperSteel Industries (as a subcontractor) to satisfy Buy NY, and they built crap. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Apr 24 16:36:31 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 24 09:21:51 2006. Damn, that track doesn't even look like it's fit for streetcars, let alone commuter rail! |
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Mon Apr 24 16:37:45 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Apr 24 16:23:50 2006. The way I understand it,there were 5 lirr engineers[not train]working on the design.their p.c.`s did not interface with each other.When brought to the builder they were told :this won`t work"let us build a double ended GP40 and it will work.as it stands now,you have a single ended engine on a deadend RR.This was told to me when the DM`S first arrived on the property.The work train conductor in charge of Holban yard was the person who informed me of this. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Apr 24 17:46:17 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 24 11:09:42 2006. but that's sometimes a reason given by railfans for thinking some trains are not good cars.Actually in the course of the last half dozen or so threads debating the merit of the M7 type cars I've only seen the railfan window issue brought up by the folks who would defend the M7's mediocrity as a way to dismiss the concerns of people who have real issues with the weight and maintainability of the M7s. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 18:01:42 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Tunnel Rat on Mon Apr 24 16:37:45 2006. Tell the conductor he is full of it, no double ended gp40's were desiogned by LIRR or EMD. the DE/DM units were designed (carbody by LIRR) and techinical by EMD. |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon Apr 24 18:03:47 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Apr 24 15:35:14 2006. One of things that I've noticed when I've taken commuter rail is that on NJT and MNCR, you notice a slight build up in density near the train stations. You'll see apartments, condos, and multi-story commercial developments. In contrast, on the LIRR, it's rare to see such development.I think you're somewhat mistaken there. In Nassau County, you'll find that the apartment and condo developments are typically located right near (within, say 1/2 mile -- a 10 minute walk) the LIRR stations -- off the top of my head this is the case in Valley Stream, Lynbrook, Rockville Centre, Baldwin, Freeport, Centre Avenue, Oceanside, Gibson, Woodmere, Garden City, Great Neck, Mineola, Westbury (which is teeming with new residential condo construction) and probably a bunch of others. The captioned statement is probably more accurate in Suffolk County where development came later and is more clustered around highways and main roads rather than railroad stations. |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Apr 24 18:04:16 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 10:58:20 2006. And they accelerate at something around .25mph/s with only 16000hp per train. If each car of the 112 cars weighs 143 tons and the four or so locomotives weigh 200 tons apiece then the power to weight ratio is 0.95 hp per ton. By comparison the 1000hp 128,000lb M7 has a power to weight ratio of 15.625hp per ton. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:08:55 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 11:16:13 2006. Are you saying that the railroad has little means of effective demand management other than at night, or that the demand management it can do would make little difference? |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:25:57 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 07:10:14 2006. You do not understand a word I'm saying.I'm talking to a foamer here! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:28:39 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by WillD on Mon Apr 24 17:46:17 2006. You don't know what you are talking about. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:30:15 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 07:09:03 2006. False. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 18:30:42 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:25:57 2006. I understood exactly what you said and I disagreed with you. And as you can hopefully see, the subthread has moved well beyond my post. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 24 18:36:03 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 10:03:41 2006. Thanks for the info again. I did check the DE/DM30 manual and there is, indeed, one inverter per truck. Suprisingly, whe same is true of the ALP 46 which is a 10,000 HP loco according to the NJT familiarization manual. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 18:39:31 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Apr 24 16:36:31 2006. That is a railfan trip. It is on a freight only spur.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 18:41:53 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by WillD on Mon Apr 24 18:04:16 2006. Anything can make a train move.The trick is to stop it again. ROAR |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:44:11 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 24 09:55:31 2006. Thank you. That was very helpful. If I understand this correctly, it helps limit acceleration at first but then increases it later so passengers don't feel a jerking motion or get injured when the train first pulls out (and so the train can stop quickly if someone is being dragged).Thank you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 18:55:30 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:30:15 2006. You are in denial. I have no problem with you ignoring everyone else's use of "proff" and telling yourself that proff is not used. You just open yourself up to taunts. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 24 18:57:06 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:44:11 2006. It also gives you more much needed torque at the low end. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:57:44 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:25:57 2006. So you figured it out too.Brian's pretty harmless, all in all. Pat him on the head and tell him it's going to be OK... He does take awesome pictures, though. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:58:42 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 24 18:57:06 2006. Yes, thank you. I reread it again. I missed an important point there. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 19:00:58 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:57:44 2006. SUBWAYMAN has long been a member of your exclusive club, a club which consists of two people who launch personal attacks or make retarded statements like "you don't know what you're talking about" whenever you disagree with what other people say. It's a fine way to go about life remaining ignorant to the truth. Good luck with it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 19:03:46 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:58:42 2006. You miss a lot of important points, but you only admit it with Train Dude because you know he has the credentials of working for the MTA. You summarily dismiss the arguments of all other people who you correctly or incorrectly assume do not have similar credentials, but who have proven through years of posting here to know very well what they are talking about. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 19:47:22 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 18:55:30 2006. How am I in denial? You spelled proof the wrong way. I'm just correcting you. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 19:48:08 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 19:47:22 2006. On this board Proof is often spelled Proff. it is a simple fact, and part of the language used on this board. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 24 19:52:01 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 01:32:31 2006. No, it's the Subtalk/Subchat running joke and has been accepted by all of us, just like "lion" has been accepted as a comic substitute for 'line'. You wanna be part of a group, you accept the slang.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 20:03:21 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 19:48:08 2006. "On this board Proof is often spelled Proff. "By a few people who like to post misspellings and think it makes them look cute. "it is a simple fact, and part of the language used on this board." By those people. The rest of us do not. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:03:36 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 19:03:46 2006. Don't you ever stop? |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:06:11 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 20:03:21 2006. whethewr or not you chose to use a certain word in a language is irrellevant. if you understand it, it is acting as a word. In this case, Proff is understood by pretty much everyone, and used by a majority as well. that is fact regardless of your stance on whether or not it should be used. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:06:59 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:03:36 2006. Why stop when you are telling nothing but the truth? |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:17:37 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:06:59 2006. Who Brian? |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 24 20:21:20 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 11:35:58 2006. How can they make the trains longer if the platforms can only hold a certain number of cars?You can't make every platform on the entire system longer. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:21:53 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:17:37 2006. Yes, Brian should not stop speaking when he is releasing nothing but truth. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 24 20:22:49 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 24 11:41:09 2006. -the seats are narrower than the M1's because the new cars had to allow for ADA.I thought that it had to do with thicker exterior walls due to FRA regulations... the center aisle doesn't really seem to have been made ADA compliant as there are spaces for wheelchairs at the tip-up seats near the doors. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 20:29:20 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:06:59 2006. Thanks. I appreciate it. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:31:40 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by R30A on Mon Apr 24 20:21:53 2006. He doesn't always tell the truth. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 20:32:01 2006, in response to Re: R32GE (was: Re: Here's a forecast for new cars and assignments), posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 20:03:21 2006. If by "us" you mean just you and SUBWAYMAN, then you are correct. |
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Posted by Tunnel Rat on Mon Apr 24 20:35:24 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 18:01:42 2006. You read it wrong,I said that when plans were 1st put forth,the CO.said that they wouldn`t work.EMD[I didn`t state that in my 1st post]said they would modify a GP40 with a cab on both ends,3rd rail shoes also& the lirr said NO,we want it done OURWAY and the rest is a sad history,Am I making my self clear now? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 20:37:00 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 24 20:22:49 2006. walls are not thicker the M-7 is narrower than the M-1/M-3 by design of LIRR.The ADA for wheel chair spaces has nothing to do with Aisle. The Aisle has to be wide enough to pass a wheel chair tru, so a wheel chair person can be going to toilet, go to other door incase of door malfunction, or can be moved from car to car during a evacuation. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 20:40:16 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Tunnel Rat on Mon Apr 24 20:35:24 2006. No double ended GP40's were ever offered or asked for by LIRR, so tell your Conductor buddy he is still full of it.btw most designing for LIRR was done by outside contractors working for Klauder consulting, not LIRR engineering. Am I making myself clear now ?? can you hear me now ?? |
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Posted by tydev417 on Mon Apr 24 21:02:13 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 20:37:00 2006. The M7's are a little narrower but they do have thicker walls. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 24 21:06:36 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 20:37:00 2006. But it's virtually impossible to move a W/C through the center aisle of an M7 (save for the part around the restroom.) |
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Posted by mambomta on Mon Apr 24 21:16:05 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 01:32:31 2006. Among certain people only.Grow up. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Apr 24 21:19:14 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 20:31:40 2006. You can't handle the troof. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 21:22:49 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Apr 24 21:19:14 2006. You can't handle the truth yourself. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Apr 24 21:29:19 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Apr 24 21:06:36 2006. Its not impossible the aisle is just enough to push a wheel chair trough.The aisle is straight compared to M1/M3 and about 1 1/2" wider for whatever minimum ADA dimmensions are. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Mon Apr 24 21:40:06 2006, in response to Re: LIRR president speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 21:22:49 2006. You don't knoe troof wan it stare in yuo de fase. |
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Posted by Subway Camper on Mon Apr 24 21:45:06 2006, in response to The LIRR President Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 21 23:55:11 2006. YAY! M7s=GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD! Who gives about the seats? I can fit in them JUST FINE! w0000000T for M7s!!!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 24 21:45:19 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Apr 24 18:39:31 2006. Yes, that's the RDC fantrip (way before my time) at Myrtle-Wyckoff on the old LIRR Evergreen Branch. |
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Posted by Subway Camper on Mon Apr 24 21:47:07 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Apr 22 11:12:06 2006. Bombardier > Budd |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 24 21:48:45 2006, in response to Re: The LIRR President Speaks, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Apr 24 18:30:15 2006. Stop it and grow up. It's been used on this board and going back to SubTalk since perhaps the late 90's. ANyone that's been here knows that, and it's accepted. This bickering is getting old fast. |
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