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Tuscarora Almanac for August 20

Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Aug 20 13:48:47 2026



Tuscarora Almanac for August 20


1934 – from The Book of First Runs

The IRT reduces the number of conductors by running “combination” Hi-V trains. Six and ten car trains will have cars with manually operated doors in the front and rear positions while cars in the center will have MUDC.

1959 – from The Book of First Runs

IRT Lo-V Motors enter service today on BMT Route No 5 Culver Line. They have been outfitted with flanges to cover the gap between the cars and the stations. Lo-Vmotors
4581, 4583 and 4585 through 4605 will eventually see service on the BMT.

Larry,RedbirdR33



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 20 20:38:54 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for August 20, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Aug 20 13:48:47 2026.

IINM two conductors were used on those IRT trains. The dooes at the very ends weren't used, so each conductor had to contend with one manual door. The center doors on the Hi-Vs were remote controlled.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20

Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 21 03:25:47 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 20 20:38:54 2026.

The center doors on the battleship cars were NOT remote controlled. While they were pneumatically controlled. the door control lever only operated the center door on the car that the C/R was operating from.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 21 16:59:50 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 21 03:25:47 2026.

How come the end doors on these cars, as well as the Composites, never received motors?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 21 20:32:13 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for August 20, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 21 03:25:47 2026.

OK, got it.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus

Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 23 03:22:22 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Aug 21 16:59:50 2026.

In the case of the mainline Hi-Vs it was most likely a matter of money. The IRT only converted enough battleship cars to MUDC as necessary to cut down on the number of C/Rs per train but since 10 car trains still needed 2 C/Rs anyhow the company felt the expense was unnecessary. In the cars of the Composites, it was a matter of weight since additional pneumatic door engines would have made the cars too heavy for the Manhattan el structures

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 23 08:52:11 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 23 03:22:22 2026.

Did the deck roof Hi-Vs have MUDC?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus

Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun Aug 23 10:41:20 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 23 08:52:11 2026.




Did the deck roof Hi-Vs have MUDC?

Steve: The Deck-Roofs never received MUDC. That is while you will usually see them operating on the end of trains with the regular Hi-V's.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 23 10:49:32 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for Augus, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun Aug 23 10:41:20 2026.

They didn't have fish belly sills, either.

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