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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026 Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station 1962 – from The Book of First Runs World’s Fair Steinway Motors are placed in service on the Third Avenue El. They are run in trains with standard Steinway motors and Lo-V trailers. The Tuscarora Book of Forgotten Stations (and parts thereof) No. 18 – Chambers Street – Unused Platforms, Trackways and Mezzaine. Today the Forgotten Station Express will make at stop at the Chambers Street on the BMT Centre Street Line. Although the station is still in use it is a maze of abandoned and unused trackways and platforms. Chambers Street as built was a four track station with three island and two side platforms. The centermost platform and the side platforms were intended for the unloading of trains whereas the other island platforms were for the loading of passengers. The original plan was for trains from the Eastern Division to use the two westernmost tracks. The two eastern tracks would connect to the Southern Division via the tracks on the south side of the Manhattan Bridge. South of the station the western tracks would turn east and connect to the el tracks on the Brooklyn Bridge. In order to facilitate this the south end of the western platform rises to a higher level than the eastern tracks in order to pass over them. This connection was actually built but tracks were not installed and it was never used. It is possible to see a part of this connection from the south end of the eastern platform. The eastern tracks were to proceed south in a subway to be built under William Street. Service to the two westernmost tracks from the Williamsburg Bridge began on August 4, 1913. Service to the eastern tracks began on June 22, 1915. This service pattern continued for the next sixteen years. Service south of the Chambers Street finally began in 1931 running via Nassau Street instead of William Street. Also the Nassau Street tracks would connect to the outer tracks instead of just the two east tracks. The outer tracks were now for through service while the two center tracks would serve as terminal tracks. The two side platforms were abandoned at an unspecified date. The easternmost platform remains intact. The westernmost side platform was destroyed in the early 1960’s when the platforms on the adjoining IRT Brooklyn Bridge station were extended northward. The center platform became the terminal for the #10 Myrtle Avenue-Chambers Street trains. It remained in use until those trains (as the “M”) were extended south to Broad Street in 1968. Thereafter the platform was (and may still be) used intermittently during service disruptions. The station was built with two mezzanines. The southernmost one remains in service. The north mezzanine was closed and a new one built further north between 1937 and 1938. The abandoned mezzanine was converted to a storage facility for the Municipal Building. Some of the stairways to this are still intact but sealed at the top. As large as the station was the BRT had plans to add two more tracks on the eastern side of it. Provision for this was made in the form of two pockets in the east tunnel wall north of the station. There was a room at the north end of the northbound platform. The was a long box in front of this room with a red cross on it. I presume that it was for a stretcher. This was a leftover from the Civil Defense Drill of the fifties.I do not know if this was a tower or a dispatchers office. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Avid reader on Wed Feb 4 08:35:35 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026. Is there a Track Map? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Feb 4 08:37:15 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026. TRACKS WERE PUT IN ON THE UPPER LEVEL LEADING TO THE BRIDGE,THEY WERE PUBLISHED HERE 2 YEARS AGO. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Feb 4 19:57:02 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026. You can see those two additional trackways if you look quickly to the right while on a Jamaica-bound Curly or sZemp train just after it enters the tunnel.That station needs a renovation of Ellis Island proportions. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Feb 4 23:39:30 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026. ...Chambers Street on the BMT Centre Street Line... It's worth noting that the station was built in conjunction with the 40-story Municipal Building, which sits above the station and also opened in 1913. As a result, the station has dozens and dozens of pillars, most of which support the building, not just the ceiling and mezzanine above the station.     
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Feb 5 06:55:42 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by gbs on Wed Feb 4 23:39:30 2026. That is quite true. The Municipal Building is a massive structure. I believe that from time to time "M" trains are still turned on the center tracks if there is a delay on 6th Avenue. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Feb 5 07:37:40 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Avid reader on Wed Feb 4 08:35:35 2026. Yes. |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by zac on Thu Feb 5 11:18:36 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by gbs on Wed Feb 4 23:39:30 2026. Probably the best thing is this:  |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 5 14:51:32 2026, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Feb 4 07:56:13 2026. I thought that the connection from Chambers Street to the elevated tracks at Brooklyn Bridge was abandoned because the motive power required for the upgrade was too much for the trains of that era. It would have been something to see! |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Feb 5 15:12:55 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 5 14:51:32 2026. they couldn`t figure this out before so much,money and effort was spent on this project? |
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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Thu Feb 5 15:13:02 2026, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for February 4 and a Forgotten Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 5 14:51:32 2026. they couldn`t figure this out before so much,money and effort was spent on this project? |
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