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Posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Nov 21 22:11:16 2025 R211A 3480-84 and 3640-44 is in service on the Bravo. This makes the 12th MU set. The Bravo requires 24 or 25 MUs a day, so it's nearing the 1/2 way mark. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 22 07:41:12 2025, in response to More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Nov 21 22:11:16 2025. How are they doing on the Brighton express? Moving smartly, I presume? |
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Posted by zac on Sat Nov 22 11:01:33 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 22 07:41:12 2025. Yes, they do seem to move much quicker than the R68/a. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 20:50:54 2025, in response to More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Nov 21 22:11:16 2025. I still haven’t ridden an R211. I’ve seen them but never been inside. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 22 21:20:16 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by zac on Sat Nov 22 11:01:33 2025. I clocked them at 5:56 on a CPW express dash n/b on the A. That's approaching R-10 territory. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 22 21:20:50 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 20:50:54 2025. Same here. Haven't been back to the city since 2019. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 21:43:49 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 22 21:20:50 2025. Well, that’s one excuse. But mine is that I mostly drive and when I do take the subway I don’t use any line that has the R211. I recently did ride an A, and it was an R179. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sat Nov 22 22:33:41 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 22 21:43:49 2025. R211's are equipped only with thirty seats, and with flip up seats in the A car. The storm doors, as visible, are plug doors like R44/46 equipment. Platform doors are extra wide so that those who habituate and stand by a door leaf, and don't move out of the way, now have plenty of room. Compared with a R1/9 railcar that was equipped with fifty-four or fifty-six seats, depending on passenger width on the seat opposite the cab. The new extra wide platform doors remove enough railcar wall length that reduces the small window bench one seat from six to five seats. Advertisement consists of digital headliners. When car doors open, the station display at the low ceiling end of the railcar, where the HVAC unit is located, indicate what side of the train the doors will open. Along with flashing colored LED illumination at inside door edges. Side destination signage is considerably larger compared to previous NTT railcars, and security cameras. Once the R62/68 SMEE fleets have been replaced, the entire NYC transit system will be a homogenized with NTT equipment. I have rode 211's on the Brighton line, where the they appear to run rather quickly. I haven't experienced a run down 6th Avenue express tracks. |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Nov 23 02:54:43 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by zac on Sat Nov 22 11:01:33 2025. From what I've seen on youtube, it takes them a tad less than 9 seconds to go the 600 feet of the Neck Road station southbound and Av H station northbound. That's about 48 mph. That's faster than the R68/As. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 06:41:43 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Nov 23 02:54:43 2025. I rode on the IND old timers during the Parade of Trains in October of 2004 and on one n/b spring on the Brighton line, they got all the way up to B avove Middle C. My jaw hit the floor. That train was MOVING! A-440 works out to be 45 mph, so we had to be pushing at least 50. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Nov 23 08:21:40 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Handbrake on Sat Nov 22 22:33:41 2025. Once the R62/68 SMEE fleets have been replaced, the entire NYC transit system will be a homogenized with NTT equipment.Speaking of R-68's, when they all are retired, what will run on the Franklin Ave. shuttle ? Bill M. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 23 12:21:04 2025, in response to More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Nov 21 22:11:16 2025. Hopefully some folks will figure out how to stop them trains during leaf season along Brighton.. |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Sun Nov 23 12:46:54 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Nov 23 08:21:40 2025. Speaking of R-68's, when they all are retired, what will run on the Franklin Ave. shuttle ? The could put a few R-68A's in service for a few more years. Considering how slow the R-68's are it might be years before anyone realizes that they've gone. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 15:27:02 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Nov 23 08:21:40 2025. Matbe they can resurrect two of the R-110Bs.:) |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Sun Nov 23 18:27:35 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Handbrake on Sat Nov 22 22:33:41 2025. I ride the A daily and I find them quite uncomfortable. The seats are 2 and 3 with a pole between them and people of all sizes are trying to squeeze into the smallest of "seats". Even if the train isn't crowded you're still squeezed.I get that transverse seats might not be feasible in a 60 foot car, but I'd take R160/R179 seating over the R211 seating any day. And they could easily make the benches ever so slightly wider if they got rid of what appears to be door hogger courtesy space. I don't even know how SIR go end to end like that, but I don't ride SIR so I won't speak for them. They're flashy, but many I ride with do not like them from the passenger experience, and I'd take back any other model any day. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Nov 23 19:36:55 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 23 12:21:04 2025. I see wayside ambers (every year this time) from Oct 15 to Dec 15 (about) - The TO's have been slowing to less than 10mph into the station, so no reals problems I've seen. What happened to that laser beam car?? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 24 02:29:42 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by jasonnyc on Sun Nov 23 18:27:35 2025. Transverse seats certainly ARE feasible on a 60 ft car. They worked just fine on the R-1s through R-16s. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 24 05:02:17 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by italianguyinsi on Sun Nov 23 19:36:55 2025. Just because you see those ambers don’t mean some TOs obey those ambers..As for that laser beam thingy you must be referring to the commuter lines. |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Mon Nov 24 12:38:24 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 24 05:02:17 2025. I could have sworn I ready about it as a refurnished IRT R unit.Every trip down the Brighton, they have been in compliance, the crawl is most ntoiceable when the bus leaves that you are scheduled to make the conenction with! |
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Posted by zac on Thu Dec 18 10:36:20 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Nov 23 08:21:40 2025. There are 4 car sets in the R268 order. It is thought that some will be for the shuttle. It could well be that they'll extend the platforms, or maybe not. We'll only know when it happens. There's plenty of room since they were 8 cars before the rebuild. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Dec 18 12:48:47 2025, in response to Re: More R211A's on the Bravo, posted by zac on Thu Dec 18 10:36:20 2025. I believe when the Franklin Ave Shuttle consisted of 4 R32s only the inner two cars opened their doors. Maybe it'll be the same with the R268s, or with the new technology, only 3 of the 4 cars could open their doors.--Mark |
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