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[PHOTO] Station Identification Needed |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025 
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Posted by zac on Mon Nov 3 19:08:55 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025. My first reaction was Clark St./St. George Hotel. But I don't really know for sure. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 19:12:34 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025. I don't remember Grand Central having any elevators and I believe Clark Street is elevator-only, so I suspect this would be 168th Street. |
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Posted by gbs on Mon Nov 3 21:43:53 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025. I've never seen signs at the #1 level at 168 St pointing to exit stairs. That station level seems to be elevators only to exit. As one of the deepest in the system, any stairs would be for emergency use only, and would not be pointed to by such a prominent sign. Is 149 St - Grand Concourse (Mott Av) ruled out? BTW, I love the hand pointer on the sign. In the mid-'60s I rode through Utica Av (4) for the first time, and on the platforms were signs showing Utica Av one way and Schenectady Av the other, each pointed to by a hand. |
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Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Nov 4 06:24:38 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 19:12:34 2025. IIRC there were elevators at the west end of the Flushing Line platforms. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 4 16:49:02 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by gbs on Mon Nov 3 21:43:53 2025. I personally think old signs that were likely hand painted looked much better than the modern stuff using the same 3 computer fonts. |
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Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 4 16:49:42 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025. Was there a problem of people joyriding on the elevators and not needing the train? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 16:59:32 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Nov 4 16:49:42 2025. The one place I can imagine such a sign making sense (and I very much doubt there ever was such a sign there) is 190th on the A train, where the elevator really is useful for non-subway riders. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 4 17:02:07 2025, in response to [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Nov 3 16:29:12 2025. There is no No Smoking sign. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 17:12:04 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 4 17:02:07 2025. I assume he means no spitting. I don't remember seeing those anywhere except the IRT. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Nov 4 17:50:25 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 17:12:04 2025. As I recall, since the IRT was the first subway in NYC, those no spitting signs went up in an attempt to stop the spread of the Spanish Flu in 1918. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Nov 4 18:22:07 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 4 17:02:07 2025. There is no No Smoking sign.You're correct. Senior moment there. Bill M. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 18:51:50 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 16:59:32 2025. 191 on the 1 and 181 on the A have elevators with similar utility. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 18:55:02 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 4 18:51:50 2025. Ah, OK. Then maybe this is 191 on the 1. You're not allowed to use this elevator just to travel between the lower level street and the upper level street. |
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Posted by gbs on Tue Nov 4 23:40:12 2025, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Station Identification Needed, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 4 16:59:32 2025. When the station opened in 1932, the elevators and the ramps were all within fare control. Entering the station from the upper level at Fort Washington Ave, you descended a staircase next to the elevator machine house and approached the elevator waiting area. The change booth was to the right, then through the turnstiles the elevators were to the left. From Bennett Ave you entered the change booth area, with the change booth to the right and the turnstiles at the entrance to the ramp. As the ramp approached the mezzanine, it divided, with the right side descending directly to the uptown platform and the left side continuing to the mezzanine and the stairs down to the downtown platform. There were no turnstiles or change booth on the mezzanine, since everything was already within fare control. The area residents could not use the elevators to navigate between the high neighborhood and the low without paying, so the fare control was later completely reconfigured, with the ramps and elevators now being outside fare control and a change booth and turnstiles installed on the mezzanine. Fare control also had to be installed at the direct ramp connection to the uptown platform. Facing the entrrance on Bennett Avenue. Everything was bored or carved right into the rock.  The change booth area right past the entrance doors, change booth to the right, turnstiles at the ramp to the left.  Looking up the ramp towards the mezzanine.  Looking down the ramp from the mezzanine. The ramp has divided, with the left side descending to the uptown platform.  Looking down the ramp to the uptown platform. The fare control there is not in the original configuration but was added later. Notice today's booth above the ramp on the right, also not in the original configuration.  The elevator waiting area on the mezzanine. The ramps are just to the left.  The elevator waiting area on the upper level. The old change booth was on the opposite wall.  The old change booth, opposite the elevators.  Looking south, the elevator motor house on Fort Washington Ave. The stairs down to the station entrance are out of sight on the south side of the building.  Approaching the station entrance after descending the stairs from the street.  |
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