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Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 16:33:58 2025, in response to Re: Metro North service to Albany launching in 2026, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 27 10:21:48 2025.

Interesting.

When I travel northward, I find the car rentals at Scarsdale and New Rochelle meet my needs. Both have good hours (except Sundays) and are right at the station. Stamford has better Sunday hours but is a bit out of the way for trips to upstate.



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Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026

Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Oct 27 16:55:27 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 13:49:45 2025.

Lol. Don't be a fool.

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Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 00:47:28 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North service to Rensselaer launching in 2026, posted by Italianstallion on Mon Oct 27 16:55:27 2025.

LOL, I'm not. I'm a realist. And now MTA is playing the "blame Amtrak" game . . . (PS. Where did $2.9 billion suddenly come from?)

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MTA Rails Against Amtrak for Delays to Metro-North Penn Station Connection

MTA officials ripped into Amtrak Monday for repeated delays in bringing Metro-North service to Penn Station as part of a $2.9 billion megaproject that is running years behind schedule.

The projected completion of the Penn Access project, which would also involve the construction of four new Metro-North stations in The Bronx, could be pushed back three years to 2030, MTA officials said, blaming the national rail company for not sticking to an agreed-to schedule for MTA crews to access tracks needed to complete the work.

“You need outages to get work done, weekend outages,” Jamie Torres-Springer, president of MTA Construction & Development, said during a MTA committee board meeting. “And I don’t think this is in dispute — seven of the 48 outages committed to on paper in an agreement between Amtrak and the MTA, only seven were provided in the first two years.”

Penn Access groundbreaking took place in December 2022, with plans to have service up and running by 2027 at new stations in Hunts Point, Morris Park, Parkchester/Van Nest and Co-op City.

But MTA officials said the project, which requires extensive rehabilitation work along Amtrak’s Hell Gate Line, was “spiraling off in the wrong direction” because of Amtrak’s lack of cooperation from the start, as The City previously reported.

“We set out to do this work with federal support because it was the path to getting service to the East Bronx,” Torres-Springer said. “But it meant working on Amtrak’s territory with their cooperation and oversight, which they committed to at the beginning of this project.”

Among the problems, Torres-Springer said, was a lack of staff support. In particular, he cited 98 days when Amtrak foremen no-showed.

“Without a foreman, you can’t take track out,” he said. “You can’t work on the track.”

The MTA publicly floated a proposal Monday to launch partial service by 2027 to and from three of the planned Bronx stations — all but Hunts Point — as long as Amtrak agrees to provide a framework for putting the project schedule back on track.

“By the time the first trains arrive in 2027, we’ll see a Bronx that is better connected with direct access to Penn Station, and to job opportunities in Westchester, as well as Connecticut,” said Justin Vonashek, president of Metro-North, the country’s second-largest commuter railroad. “Bronx residents will no longer have to choose between proximity and opportunity.”

An Amtrak spokesperson said the MTA did not inform the railroad of its Penn Access analysis, adding that the railroad has taken numerous steps to advance the project. Those include tweaking Amtrak schedules or temporarily suspending service to allow more work to be done safely and changing work rules for worker safety.

“Amtrak has invested over $140 million and significant staff resources on the Penn Station Access project,” spokesperson Jason Abrams said in a statement. “We remain committed to this critical project, and being good stewards of taxpayer investment for Amtrak, MTA customers, New York residents and travelers.”

The head of the MTA suggested the cost overruns and delays were reminiscent of the saga of East Side Access, the project to bring Long Island Rail Road trains to a massive new hub built deep beneath Grand Central Terminal. It opened years behind schedule in January 2023 as the rebranded Grand Central Madison.

“Let’s not have East Side Access again; let’s start the service on time,” said Janno Lieber, the MTA chairperson and chief executive, on Monday. “Deadly serious.”

The City reported in March 2023 that the dueling railroads agreed to a pact that would give MTA crews access to Amtrak tracks in an effort to put Penn Access back on schedule.

But tensions have repeatedly flared up since then between the MTA and Amtrak, with Lieber earlier this month accusing the national railroad of slowing down the MTA “every day of the week by not giving outages.”

“We can’t get work done and the people in Co-op City are waiting for a goddamn train,” Lieber said Oct. 6 after marking the completion of the first phase of work to rebuild the Park Avenue Viaduct, which carries Metro-North trains through East Harlem. “And it’s outrageous and it’s been a problem from the start of that [Penn Access] project.”


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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 09:14:31 2025, in response to Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 00:47:28 2025.

I wonder how much of this is changes by Amtrak.

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 09:22:46 2025, in response to Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 00:47:28 2025.

Amtrak's side of the story from the NY Poast. Looks like Janno Lieber thinks that Amtrak was established in 1925 and has been running Acela trains from that year too (see bottom).

Amtrak boss blames MTA’s ‘wounded pride’ as transit agency claims major Penn Station project delays

The head of Amtrak said “wounded pride” is fueling the MTA’s smear campaign against the federal train company after the MTA lost the Penn Station Redesign to Amtrak earlier this year.

MTA officials started a fresh spat with Amtrak Monday when the transit agency announced the long-anticipated $2.9 billion Penn Station Access project, set to connect Bronx riders to Manhattan’s Penn Station via four new Metro-North stops, is facing a possible three-year delay — and solely blamed Amtrak.

Amtrak President Roger Harris, in an interview with The Post, described the ongoing drama between the two enormous train companies as a “decades-long family rivalry.”

“Part of it is, how do you get past years and years of grudges?” Harris said. “We want to get the job done. We don’t want to be fighting all these political skirmishes.”

Harris claimed that both the MTA and Amtrak bear responsibility for the cluster of delays and mishaps in the projects they collaborate on, such as the East River Tunnel and the Penn Station Access project in the Bronx.

“We have different responsibilities, and there’s a different view of who caused which delay and which one was consequential to the other,” Harris said. “But there’s a lot on the table here, and I could list for you several actions or inactions by MTA that probably delayed the project just as much as something that we did right.”

For the Penn Station Access project, the MTA hired an independent investigator, consultant Melissa Morea of Ankura, to review the project. Morea blamed Amtrak’s failure to provide sufficient track access, staff and cooperation as the main causes of the stumbling project.

Her report revealed only seven out of 48 promised track outages were granted by Amtrak, and construction had to be halted when required Amtrak safety personnel did not show up to the job.

Nine Democratic members of Congress from New York and Connecticut — including Reps. Alexandria O’Casio (sic) Cortez and Jerry Nadler — sent a letter to Harris Thursday asking Amtrak to “make up for lost time” on the Penn Station Access project citing the MTA board briefing about the report last week.

But Amtrak disputes many of the report’s claims. Morea never reached out to Amtrak when compiling the report, and she previously worked with MTA Chairman and CEO Janno Lieber, Harris said.

“Until what happened with the theatrics [last week], we thought we were getting along better,” he told The Post. “And yet we find out that someone who we don’t even know, who happens to work for Janno in the past, looked at it for them.”

Morea previously worked on the “master planning” and coordinated construction schedules for the World Trade Center project, according to her bio on Ankura’s website. Lieber was president of World Trade Center Properties LLC from 2003 to 2017.

“We would love an independent third-party to come in and look at it, but that doesn’t feel like the same thing,” Harris said.

John McCarthy, in charge of Policy and External Relations at the MTA, didn’t see an issue with Morea’s past work with the MTA head.

“Melissa Morea is a globally recognized scheduling expert who in addition to the WTC and Hudson Yards mega projects, consulted for the MTA on East Side Access, helping to get that project done despite Amtrak issues,” McCarthy said in a statement after The Post reached out. “Her findings on Amtrak’s delay of Penn Access have not been questioned—by Amtrak or anyone else.”

Lieber snapped on Wednesday when a reporter asked if the MTA should shoulder any of the blame for the delays.

“We shouldn’t be focused on that,” Lieber said. “We can fight it out with Amtrak in arbitration, that is going to happen.”

MTA heads were similarly abrasive about the East River Tunnel project in May, fear mongering about possible delays for riders before Amtrak even started that repair work. So far those delays haven’t materialized, Harris said.

“We’re about 40% of the way through that project, and so far, it’s going really well. And you haven’t heard them complaining much about it, because there’s not much to complain about the project today,” Harris said.

Harris thinks the MTA’s embarrassing public spiral in recent months may stem from bruised egos after the MTA lost the Penn Station Redesign contract in April.

“I’m sure that there’s a degree of wounded pride here,” Harris said. “That’s a human condition, especially around such a large marquee project as Penn Station. Also in today’s incredibly politically charged environment, everybody is kind of on the edge a little bit,” he said.

Meanwhile, Lieber vowed Wednesday to still get Bronx residents service by 2027, even if it means temporary platforms or complicated shuttle arrangements to bypass ongoing construction.

“These people have nothing to get to jobs and education and opportunity when you’re coming from Co-op City or Morris Park,” Lieber said, appearing deeply frustrated after an MTA board meeting.

“We need to start that service in 2027, and we need Amtrak to help us,” Lieber pleaded, after claiming Amtrak’s Acela trains have been “flying through the Bronx for 100 years without ever stopping to serve people in the Bronx.”

Amtrak was established in 1971.


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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 09:25:05 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 09:14:31 2025.

What changes?

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 12:28:26 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 09:25:05 2025.

I meant changes to AMTRAK's needs.

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 3 12:53:30 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 09:22:46 2025.

Without adddrssiing the bureaucratic turf BS, 100 years ago there were platforms along the New Haven in the Bronx for local stops

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 16:28:49 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 3 12:28:26 2025.

Okay; care to be more specific?

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 16:45:54 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 3 12:53:30 2025.

Yes, under the privately-owned New Haven RR and subsidiaries, by way of the NY Connecting RR company.

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Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 4 01:32:16 2025, in response to Re: Metro-North New Haven Line service to NYP not launching until 2030 (or later?); blames Amtrak, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 3 16:45:54 2025.

correct. Annd much the same there were vestiges of platforms on the NY Connecting precisely where I want Triboro RX to be instituted.

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