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Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025 This last Friday, the last remaining R-44's were retired from the Staten Island Railway (SIR) roster after 52 years of service (longer than the ME-1 fleet that began SIRT's electrification in 1925), thus the entire fleet are now the all-new R-211S's:Brand-New Subway Cars Now Make Up Staten Island's Only Train Line (AM New York) With this, the last vestiges of St. Louis Car workmanship have disappeared from the New York scene forever. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 15 13:04:19 2025, in response to In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025. Riding this line on R-44s was always a boring 45 minute ride to me. But was tolerable when sitting on one of those transverse seats looking out the window.Now that the R-44s are gone, I'll skip it altogether. Bill M. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 15 13:04:52 2025, in response to In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025. I believe I read somewhere that the R44s will be in Clifton Yards for a while, in case the 211s shit the bed for whatever reason. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 15 13:33:08 2025, in response to In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025. Yep. Complete dependence on foreign manufacturers. This is not a blessing at all. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Sep 15 15:15:57 2025, in response to In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025. Have they raised the MAS now that there are no more R44's?That was the excuse the speed was lowered because the R44's hunted so much at higher speeds. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 15 15:22:17 2025, in response to Re: In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Mon Sep 15 15:15:57 2025. They lowered the speed after that chick crashed through the bumper in Tottwnville, even though it had nothing to do with the speed. I ride the express about 15 yrs ago, and we were doing o er 60 MPH in some stretches. Now you can't go over 45 MPH |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Sep 15 15:41:48 2025, in response to In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 12:45:56 2025. Thank you for the update. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Sep 15 15:44:38 2025, in response to Re: In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 15 13:04:19 2025. I was never a fan of the R-44 but they did have transverse seating. I do like the R-211 though. Staten Island has changed quite a lot since I first went there in the sixties. There were still several grade crossings and a lot of forest. Today is just seems to be townhouses and condos. Even the Tottenville waterfront is being built up. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 15 17:51:48 2025, in response to Re: In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Mon Sep 15 15:41:48 2025. The pleasure's all mine. I did ride on some R44's in their last months of service, but for various reasons was unable to ride on their last day in service. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Mon Sep 15 21:13:23 2025, in response to Re: In Staten Island, The End Of An Era, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 15 13:04:19 2025. Along with the new car smell on new SIR R211's, is the reduction with the number of seats in each R211 railcar. R211's have about 30% less seating than previous B Division NTT car classes.R211's are delivered with thirty seats in all A & B railcar classes, including flip up seats, compared to previous B division NTT railcars with forty seats for A cars, and forty-four seats for B cars. Thirty seat is not a problem with the light rush hour crowds on the SIR, but a different story on the main line subway. |
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