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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Apr 26 08:40:19 2024 |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 26 10:54:36 2024, in response to L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Apr 26 08:40:19 2024. Self-inflicted.Even before the pandemic LA Metro didn't want code of conduct enforced following an incident where a young woman was physically removed from a train after refusing sheriff deputy instructions to take her feet off a seat. After the pandemic and BLM protests, they allowed trains and train stations to become places where drugs such as heroin, fentanyl, and meth were openly used and sold. The metro board at the time was apoplectic when the then-sheriff publicly stated that he was going to have his deputies remove non-destination, non-paying people from the system, referring to them as "our customers". Over the last year they've back-tracked and have tried to limit fare evasion and remove people openly doing drugs, but most choice riders have lost confidence and even the transit dependent often seek out slower buses to avoid taking the train. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Apr 26 19:51:29 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 26 10:54:36 2024. It worked for San Fran so it should for LA as well. |
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Posted by Zac on Sat Apr 27 16:43:17 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 26 10:54:36 2024. I tried using la metro back in December and it was just disgusting. No Angeleno that I spoke with would ever consider using it even if it went door to door. Even the new station downtown by the museums was creepy. Never mind how long it took to get from A to B. That’s the size of the city. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 21:39:27 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Zac on Sat Apr 27 16:43:17 2024. Depending on where you were, lots actually use it at least sometimes. More on the westside and central LA will have access once the D line extension opens in phases over the next 3-4 years. The biggest downside to the metro is that it doesn't go to LA's biggest job center. Let's see what happens then. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 28 07:14:01 2024, in response to L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Apr 26 08:40:19 2024. They voted for this. |
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Posted by zac on Sun Apr 28 22:18:55 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 21:39:27 2024. To the extent that maybe it will be faster than LA's notorious traffic you'll get people on the Westside to ride, but to where? That was the problem I saw when I tried to use it myself. LA is so big and sprawling it will take a century to cover it all the way NYC is covered. If you happen to live near a line what are the chances your destination is near one as well?My one time trying I was staying in Marina Del Rey and wanted to go downtown to the arts center. So I'm thinking that Santa Monica isn't that far, and it doesn't look that far on a map. But this is what happens whenever I go to LA, it doesn't look far but it is very far. I'm a cyclist so I thought I could just take a bikeshare bike, but it cost more than an Uber so I took an Uber instead. When I tried walking I made it as far as Venice. It took an hour to get from Santa Monica to DTLA/Arts, maybe more, the train was full of drug addicts, nobody got on in SM and it was otherwise empty for a ways. I then went from DT to Hollywood to see if I could get in to Jimmy Kimmel, but they only took 6 standbys that day. At least that station was right across the street from the studio, but the train ride over was also full of druggies. I then went back to SM, with a change, and it took an hour and a half. Someone I was talking to on the line for Kimmel told me I'd be better off in an Uber all the way back to Marina, and she was right. The only good thing is I walked from the SM station to Ocean Blvd and sat and had oysters and a cocktail in a nice place. I Uber'ed back to Marina from there. Like a lot of people on this board, I'm a NYer and ride the subways and don't give it a second thought. Sure, we see some of these people too, but not nearly as prevalent as on the LA Metro. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 28 23:29:15 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by zac on Sun Apr 28 22:18:55 2024. LA is huge - 50% larger in area than NYC - but most Angelenos aren't spending their days traveling between Chatsworth and San Pedro anymore than NYers are traveling between from the Rockaways to the Bronx. Most commutes are in the 5-10 mile range and people tend to spend to stay in their local bubble outside of that.When the D extension opens it will connect UCLA/Westwood, Century City, Beverly Hills, mid-city/museums, Koreatown, and downtown. It will allow worker bees on the eastside to get to jobs on the westside in half the time of driving. That's not enough to depend on transit like NYC but it does connect a ton of people to a ton of jobs. By the time that heavy rail connects the valley to the westside in 2032, that connects a lot more people using fast trains (65 mph with long distances between many stops), I think that LA will be in the second tier of US transit. Behind DC but even or ahead of Chicago. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 28 23:37:30 2024, in response to Re: L.A. Metro declares safety emergency, posted by zac on Sun Apr 28 22:18:55 2024. LA is huge - 50% larger in area than NYC - but most Angelenos aren't spending their days traveling between Chatsworth and San Pedro anymore than NYers are traveling between from the Rockaways to the Bronx. Most commutes are in the 5-10 mile range and people tend to spend to stay in their local bubble outside of that.When the D extension opens it will connect UCLA/Westwood, Century City, Beverly Hills, mid-city/museums, Koreatown, and downtown. It will allow worker bees on the eastside to get to jobs on the westside in half the time of driving. That's not enough to depend on transit like NYC but it does connect a ton of people to a ton of jobs. By the time that heavy rail connects the valley to the westside in 2032, that connects a lot more people using fast trains (65 mph with long distances between many stops), I think that LA will be in the second tier of US transit. Behind DC but even or ahead of Chicago. |
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