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pix in the Guardian

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 02:57:43 2024

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/apr/12/soul-train-an-eight-year-ride-on-the-new-york-subway

a couple seem to me mislabeled.
the first claims 180th St queens. Is this instead on the IRT in the Bronx?

another claiming on the way to Grand Central looks to me to be an R32 in the blur.

Thoughts?

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 25 06:44:17 2024, in response to pix in the Guardian, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 02:57:43 2024.

The Guardian printing misinformation? No way! 🙄

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 13:34:38 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 25 06:44:17 2024.

i liked some of the pix. I sought imformation. I am not interested in your political take on the Guardian.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 25 14:58:19 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 13:34:38 2024.

This isn’t a political take. The Grauniad is widely known for its errors.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Apr 25 21:36:49 2024, in response to pix in the Guardian, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 02:57:43 2024.

It's listed as 180 St, Queens on other sites too. It seems Mr. Spiller took artistic license with at least a couple of other titles: Not Franklin Street and The A Train to Little Odessa.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Apr 25 22:09:39 2024, in response to pix in the Guardian, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 25 02:57:43 2024.

That is indeed E 180 St in the Bronx, facing the old NYW&B station.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Apr 26 02:20:04 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by 3-9 on Thu Apr 25 22:09:39 2024.

Thank you.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by randyo on Fri Apr 26 05:07:25 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Apr 25 21:36:49 2024.

What’s intersting about the A train to Brighton Bch it was actually in the MTA’s plans sort of. During the early 1990s there was a small financial crunch at the MTA and a number rather odd service plans were proposed. One of them involved sending a service from 207th St Manhattan to Stillwell via the Brighton Line. Although technically it should properly have been labelled either a B or Q, the MTA opted to call it the A since due the the popularity of the “A Train” from Duke Ellington’s song it was felt than nobody should dare delete the use of the letter A from the MTA’s alphabet soup.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 26 09:31:59 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 26 05:07:25 2024.

Correct.
It was test run by the TA during the water main break on 8th Ave.

The Q took over all uptown A service from 59th st to 207th at all times until repair was completed.
A service ended at 34th st.

In the proposal, the H would have become the new 8th Avenue Fulton Express, between 34th Street and Far Rockaway,no service between 34th and 59th.
The C would be the 8th avenue local between 168th and Lefferts, running at all times..

This service plan reduced basically made the express a part time line that only traveled as far as 34th st,then back to Queens...no weekend service,or late nights.

The C would have become the full time service, operating all times, making local stops.

There was another plan proposal like this, with the B and D taking over the express service above 59th st, with B trains serving 207th,D trains 205th.
All A service would end at 168th,all local to Lefferts.
The H would be the 8th Ave Express, between Far Rockaway and 34th st.

Again,we see a massive service reduction, especially with the 8th avenue Express,A service becoming the full time local,6th Avenue Express trains given priority on Central Park west.

I do understand that the current A services are pretty long and time consuming, but the MTA has been running over night all local A service since 1977, and that's even worse.
So what made them believe that any of the above plans would work?

As we can clearly see, none of them were actually implemented,due to the outcry of the riders rallying against the changes.

The return of the H was the better part of the idea, with that service taking over the Far Rockaway line..but termination of All express service above 34th st was the deal breaker.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Q65A on Fri Apr 26 09:38:21 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 26 09:31:59 2024.

Great info, Edwards!
Thanks for this detailed response!

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by randyo on Sat Apr 27 05:44:32 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 26 09:31:59 2024.

I was in the schedule office at the time it was proposed and it was NOT a temporary p;an although that was what was operated during the water problem. It was intended to be something operated due to a financial problem in the TA.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 09:06:39 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 25 14:58:19 2024.

By now there are no copy editors or fact checkers left anywhere. Every media outlet is full of obvious mistakes.



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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Apr 27 10:24:59 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 09:06:39 2024.

And probably 90-95% of "media outlets" are simply parroting what they or someone else got from AP, X, or Facebook. It's so easy for a mistake to be propagated endlessly to the point at which the truth appears to be wrong because "everyone else" is saying otherwise.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 27 15:33:37 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Apr 27 10:24:59 2024.

I found that the NY Times takes a little more effort confirming the major stuff. Even their transit stuff hasn't been that bad.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 19:39:41 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 27 15:33:37 2024.

But they've gone seriously downhill too.



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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 23:44:38 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 19:39:41 2024.

The failing New York Times.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Apr 28 01:00:04 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 23:44:38 2024.

Thanx Donald.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Apr 28 01:03:39 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 26 09:31:59 2024.

Damm!

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 02:56:16 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Apr 28 01:00:04 2024.

Just because Donald can't stand the Times doesn't make them great any more.





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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 28 03:35:22 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 02:56:16 2024.

While judging media is not exactly rail related except when they screw up coverage of transit issues, let me assure you tht the NYT is a far better 'paper' than the piiful dailies in most of the US..One thing to be said for them is that they have their own reporters all over--or at least in more places than any other US publication. Avisual a decade ago showed the LA Times had one bureau in Cairo to Cover all of Africa, and one in Mexico City for all of Latin America.

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 14:22:14 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 19:39:41 2024.

Really? What's been the biggest indicators of this?

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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 28 14:54:44 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 14:22:14 2024.

It's my opinion based on personal observation, and therefore not subject to rigorous analysis.

- More trashy tabloid-like articles about celebrities.
- Clear sensitivity in terms of the comments they publish and the ones they don't publish.
- Obvious bias in the news section on certain topics (though not others).


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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 28 16:55:09 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by 3-9 on Thu Apr 25 22:09:39 2024.

Spiller's 1982 photo followed by a 2009 ERA photo:






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Re: pix in the Guardian

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Apr 29 13:46:51 2024, in response to Re: pix in the Guardian, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Apr 28 16:55:09 2024.

Thank you.

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