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Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 30 01:31:09 2023 In 1976 a fire damaged the wooden platform and some R27/30 cars at Metropolitan Ave on the M train. I remember the wooden platform being repaired then replaced with concrete about 5 years later. Others say it was immediately replaced with concrete. Was the cause ever determined?
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Thu Nov 30 08:49:22 2023, in response to Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 30 01:31:09 2023.* It was temporarily replaced with a wooden platform. The concrete platform and brick station house dates to around 1980.
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[PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Thu Nov 30 09:53:51 2023, in response to Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 30 01:31:09 2023.* I don't know what caused the fire, but here's the aftermath (June 16, 1976)
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Nov 30 11:04:46 2023, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 09:53:51 2023.* Thanks.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 11:17:37 2023, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 09:53:51 2023. Wikipedia says the fire was in 1974.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 30 13:30:58 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 11:17:37 2023. I always thought it was ‘76.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 30 13:52:17 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 11:17:37 2023. There is a NYT story from 1974
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Nov 30 13:53:22 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Nov 30 13:30:58 2023.* Maybe the photos on nycsubway.org are labeled 1976?
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 30 14:15:36 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 11:17:37 2023. Impossible. Fire can't melt steel. All of the 9/11 truthers who support "palestine" tell me so.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Nov 30 15:08:36 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 11:17:37 2023. Tuscarora Almanac - July 16, 1974 - The Book of Wrecks Ridgewood, Queens, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division A fire at the Metropolitan Avenue Terminal of the BMT Myrtle Avenue Line causes heavy damage to the southern end of the station. There was an eight car train on the southbound (M2) track consisting of (n) 8513-2, 8203-2, 8237-6 and 8359-8 (s). It was reported that cars 8202-3 were totally destroyed and cars 8512 and 8237 were badly burned and beyond repair. Source: New York Division Bulletin /August 1974 Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 15:40:36 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Nov 30 15:08:36 2023. Thank you Larry Bill M.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Nov 30 15:44:47 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 30 08:49:22 2023.* I think you're right. I remember when Metropolitan was closed and a shuttle bus used.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 30 18:19:02 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Nov 30 14:15:36 2023. "Fire can't melt steel." Correct, but it can weaken it to the point where it loses something called "structural integrity" aka strength.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Nov 30 19:41:46 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Nov 30 15:08:36 2023. I was in Brooklyn then (recently back from 3 years living in Illinois), wonder why I didn't hear about this (I didn't watch news on TV back then, but I usually read the Daily News, so I should have seen an article) I visited Metropolitan Av that fall (in my quest to cover the entire system), station had been repaired by then.
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Thu Nov 30 21:42:12 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 15:40:36 2023. You're welcome Bill Larry, RedbirdR33
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Mr RT* on Fri Dec 1 09:09:53 2023, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 09:53:51 2023.* Wow what a mess :-(
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Fri Dec 1 22:08:10 2023, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Mr RT on Fri Dec 1 09:09:53 2023.* Char-broiled R-27/30s burned to a crisp.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by randyo* on Sat Dec 2 03:47:04 2023, in response to Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 30 01:31:09 2023.* I seem to recall that in the spring of 1967 just before I went to the eastern as a Tw/M, something similar happened at Rockaway Pky Canarsie but by the time I pocked up my tower job the platform had been replaced with a concrete one.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Bob Andersen* on Sat Dec 2 12:57:47 2023, in response to Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 30 01:31:09 2023.* I used those wooden platforms going to High School 1963-1966 at Christ the King. It was all Standards and Q-cars. The school building wasn’t finished yet when we started in Sept. 1962, so we had to travel to Mater Christi in Astoria for the first year. What a trip for a 13 year old!
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 2 23:49:07 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 2 12:57:47 2023.* That's a nice trip.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sat Dec 2 23:49:10 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 2 12:57:47 2023.* That's a nice trip.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sun Dec 3 09:53:38 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 2 12:57:47 2023.* I remember seeing a couple of performances by a dance group from Cleveland at Christ the King HS in 1970 and 1972.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Dec 3 11:23:28 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Dec 2 12:57:47 2023.* You answered my question already. I was going to ask when that building was built.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Dec 3 12:41:14 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 3 11:23:28 2023.* CTK was built as a scholarship school, but opened with tuition. The land was a popular baseball field. My mother moved from Eldert in lower Ridgewood to Himrod at Cypress. She ended up going to Grover Cleveland instead.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Catfish 44* on Sun Dec 3 17:13:00 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 3 12:41:14 2023.* Thank you
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Re: [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by Edwards!* on Sun Dec 3 19:06:38 2023, in response to [PHOTOS] Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Nov 30 09:53:51 2023.* Damn. One hell of a fire. Hot enough to burn up part of the station, burn up the train enough to make the frame buckle/twist/warp out of shape. Geez.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by randyo* on Wed Dec 6 04:32:51 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 3 12:41:14 2023.* I remember railfanning Myrtle to ride the Multis in their last days when the ball field was still there and later when CTK was being built. My father is buried in Lutheran Cemetery and at the Funeral in 1958, my mother commented that he was buried in a good place since he liked trains and baseball and he was close to both.
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Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Dec 7 04:11:36 2023, in response to Re: Question about fire at Metropolitan/Middle Village 1976, posted by randyo on Wed Dec 6 04:32:51 2023.* My grandparents are buried there too.
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