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[VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Edwards!* on Mon Mar 27 02:42:48 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* Wow All that infrastructure sitting and waiting for someone to figure out it would be a great LRT route.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Avid Reader* on Mon Mar 27 08:07:09 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 27 02:42:48 2023.* Throw in a few grade crossing eliminations and press "GO". With the population growth, the need is there.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Charles G* on Mon Mar 27 09:25:26 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* Thanks for posting that. I rode that line for a few years back in the early 90's - amazed by how much I remembered
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Avid Reader* on Mon Mar 27 10:13:16 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 27 09:25:26 2023.* amazed by how much I remembered. Don't worry you will/are already starting to forget.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Mon Mar 27 11:32:20 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* Here it is in service around 1990ish: https://youtu.be/hJunvtlrs6U
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Charles G* on Mon Mar 27 15:42:58 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 27 10:13:16 2023.* No doubt about that!
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Mar 27 15:54:51 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 27 08:07:09 2023.* Light rail doesn't usually go for grade crossing elimination.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Mon Mar 27 18:26:59 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 27 15:54:51 2023.* Here in Denver, it depends on which line. The W line has lots of double-gated crossings along 13th Ave. The R line also has several crossings. The Southwest Corridor, from Broadway to Mineral Ave., is entirely grade separated, as is the Southeast Corridor from Broadway to Ridgegate. The original Central Corridor has two crossings and the Central Platte Valley Spur has two.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Mar 27 23:37:05 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Mar 27 18:26:59 2023.* Yes, and then there's underground LRT where cities have that. The sections of Kearny, Bloomfield and Glen Ridge that the former Greenwood Lake RR goes through are not exactly super-busy urban enclaves, to this day (there is the big bridge going over Broad Street in Bloomfield, though); not even the section of North Newark where there used to be an active NJT station on this line is all that busy for being part of a big city. Would have to be a big justification for grade crossing elimination. There's also the matter of where to put a western terminus; strangely enough, the now-electrified portion west of Bay Street station in Montclair has stations close enough that would be better suited for LRT operation (as well as still retain low platforms IIRC), but we do not have a "tram-train" standard save the one in Dallas and the LRT cars currently in use around the country seem to have MDBFs far shorter than FRA commuter rail vehicles.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Tue Mar 28 06:41:14 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Edwards! on Mon Mar 27 02:42:48 2023.* All that infrastructure sitting and waiting for someone to figure out it would be a great LRT route. The abandoned right of row would also become a rails to trails bike way project, since that's very popular these days. See Queensway. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Mar 28 10:40:52 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 28 06:41:14 2023.* Queensway is a terrible idea.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by GojiMet86* on Tue Mar 28 12:26:53 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* In my fantasy map, this is a light rail line(s) that runs from Hoboken using the Erie Cut (Bergen Arches) for a couple of stops, then diverting to Secaucus Junction. Then it would return to the ROW and have the option to run to either Bay Street or Orange via a Silver Lake extension.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Mar 28 13:40:37 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* Very cool.
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Re: [Greenway?] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Mar 28 14:31:10 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 28 06:41:14 2023.* Yes; some bizarre people are pushing to turn it into the Essex-Hudson Greenway.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Mar 28 15:01:51 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 28 06:41:14 2023.* No, they aren't popular except with politicians.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Tue Mar 28 18:42:11 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 27 23:37:05 2023.* I'm familiar with the Greenwood Lake line that branched off at Mountain View and went through Wayne, Pequannock, Pompton Plains and Riverdale. Is this the same line? We moved to Pompton Plains some eight months after service ended.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Mar 28 20:30:47 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Mar 28 18:42:11 2023.* The line through Pompton Plains et al is the original Greenwood Lake line, which originally went north of Pompton Lakes across the Susquehanna's main line towards the titular Greenwood Lake; the way the tracks go west of Mountain View is actually the branch, that connects to the Lackawanna Boonton Line, which originally went through Totowa, Woodland Park, Paterson and continuing to Hoboken via today's NJT Main Line. (I-80 was built on the Lackawanna ROW between Paterson and eastern Totowa.)
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Wed Mar 29 08:55:04 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 20:30:47 2023.* Boy this line would be useful today, with the increased populations of these towns as well as Ringwood and Awosting (West Milford). All we got now is the 196_197 bus. 🙄
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 15:09:42 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 29 08:55:04 2023.* According to the map on the Wikipedia page, Ringwood was served by a short two-station branch off the line north of Wanaque-Midvale station. Awosting was the third-last station, before the Sterling Forest terminus.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 15:19:17 2023, in response to [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Mar 26 19:19:13 2023.* 1937 timetable below, as on Wikipedia; clicking image will enlarge. Interesting that the H&M (today's PATH) charged a lower fare for downtown than for uptown (to Hudson Terminal was 6¢; to 33^rd Street was 10¢).
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Edwards!* on Thu Mar 30 00:11:11 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 28 10:40:52 2023.* Absolutely.
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Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line
Posted by Edwards!* on Thu Mar 30 00:12:48 2023, in response to Re: [VIDEO] The Old Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 15:01:51 2023.* Yup. We actually agree on something.
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