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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 18:00:41 2022, in response to Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 17:56:20 2022. It’s likely that the rails are embedded so well that the cost of extraction exceeds the scrap value. |
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Posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 18:43:08 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 18:00:41 2022. Maybe now it does, but why weren't they pulled way back when? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 28 19:22:44 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 18:43:08 2022. Not just NY, in LA there are several locations where you can see where the LARy/LATL/LAMTA trolley tracks were paved over. (at least there were when I was out there, but I've been gone 24 years, a project that required the street to be dug up would have gotten rid of them). |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Sep 28 20:41:00 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 28 19:22:44 2022. There are plenty of spots in Chicago where old streetcar tracks are visible. When they were redoing South Broadway in Denver a few years back, they uncovered ed old Denver Tramways narrow gauge streetcar tracks. Ditto for Evans Ave. in the early 90s. |
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Posted by VictorM on Thu Sep 29 15:58:18 2022, in response to Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 17:56:20 2022. You can also see the trolley tracks on parts of Jamaica Av around 121 St in Richmond Hill, Queens where the street is being repaved, but the street is worse than a washboard road if you drive there. The trolley last ran in 1948. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 29 16:12:27 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 18:43:08 2022. I would imagine that the same consideration applied then and has always applied.I did read somewhere that the NYRS tracks that were abandoned around 1935 and buried were extracted during WWII when the scrap value justified it. So in Manhattan the only buried streetcar rails are TARS lines that survived the war. |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Sep 29 18:05:45 2022, in response to Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by zac on Wed Sep 28 17:56:20 2022. The Vanderbilt Ave tracks were still active fairly late in Brooklyn trolley operations. Once scrap prices went way down around 1950 or so it was no longer profitable to pull them out after operations ended, so they were left in place and left for the city to yank out during eventual street reconstruction. When I lived in Clinton Hill 79-92, the tracks on Vanderbilt were only under one layer of asphalt and frequently wore through, same for Fulton, Greene and others. Vanderbilt tracks were cut in intersections when the city redid DeKalb, Myrtle and Lafayette. Got a hunk of track from Lafayette's reconstruction, but lost it a few years later. The tracks on Nassau Ave and Lorimer near where I live now in Greenpoint were pulled soon after the trolley quit shortly after WWII, but nearby tracks on Driggs and Bedford that abandoned later are still there in most places. Graham and Manhattan Ave were reconstructed not too long ago and those tracks of course were pulled. Before that, you could still see the carhouse tracks at Box and Manhattan leading to the curb exposed until then. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 29 20:22:23 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by VictorM on Thu Sep 29 15:58:18 2022. Yes, I did notice that today. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Sep 30 08:37:13 2022, in response to Re: Tracks on Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Sep 29 18:05:45 2022. The tracks I saw on Vanderbilt were between Fulton and Atlantic and were under a lot more than one layer of asphalt. Vanderbilt and Atlantic was always "my intersection". As a cyclist I would go by there on my commute to work in Manhattan. There had been some street construction on all 4 corners at some point that had been left unfinished and it was like that for years. I called it into 311 and got notice back saying they investigated and found exactly what I said and would be contacting the company that did the work. 2-3 weeks later it was all fixed!Of all the things about retiring the one thing I truly miss was my cycling commute. Work was an interruption to a good bike ride! 10 miles each way, 2-3 times a week. The other days, and in winter, I took the subway of course. I would ride as long as I could into the winter too, but once it snowed and got really cold I'd stop for the season. |
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