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PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022

Story

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 20 12:46:27 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

Nevermind that, I wanna see the flats again!(And not on YouTube)

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 20 13:21:59 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

Still with longitudinal seating?

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 20 13:24:25 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Sep 20 13:21:59 2022.

They’re IRT-sized.

Yes, I know so is Chicago, but New York hasn’t had transverse seating on narrow cars since the 1910s except for the experimental R-110A.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 20 15:32:09 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

Journal Sq. via Hoboken ought to be done away with.

And CBTC failures have made PATH service an abomination.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 20 18:24:50 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

Why do they need longer trains? Are they planning on running fewer trains, just like NJT did when they replaced the PCC cars on the Newark Subway with Kinki-Sharyō LRVs (cut frequency in half)?

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 20 18:29:49 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 20 15:32:09 2022.

Journal Sq. via Hoboken ought to be done away with

You think that it's viable to run the weekday system 24/7? Does PATH have enough crews for that?

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Sep 20 19:13:34 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 20 18:24:50 2022.

"Why do they need longer trains? Are they planning on running fewer trains..."

When one gets to be a certain age, this sort of question unfortunately becomes unavoidable and obvious. I never had occasion to ride PATH very often, but I don't recall it being particularly crowded.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains runnin'

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Sep 20 20:30:02 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

😀



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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 20 20:44:36 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Sep 20 19:13:34 2022.

IDWTP

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by gbs on Wed Sep 21 00:56:59 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 20 13:24:25 2022.


And as we've noted, they came in three flavors: strawberry, lemon, and blueberry:





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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 01:19:43 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by gbs on Wed Sep 21 00:56:59 2022.

Where's chocolate? RACIST

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 21 07:23:47 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 20 13:24:25 2022.

Path cars with ...



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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 21 12:32:16 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 21 07:23:47 2022.

PWN3D! Thanks.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains runnin'

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 21 17:37:02 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains runnin', posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Sep 20 20:30:02 2022.

Nice video.

But diappointed a train didn't appear out of the fog. 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: PATH . Longer trains runnin'

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 21 21:48:57 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains runnin', posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 21 17:37:02 2022.

I've had a fantasy of making a video where I have a long train runnin' (lol) on an HO scale layout while I play the song in the background. However, I'm not technically astute enough to do it. I guess I could use Garage Band (an Apple app) but I'd have to figure it out.

The crude way to do it is to play LTR on my computer with the speakers cranked up while filming the layout.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 22 02:25:41 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Sep 20 15:32:09 2022.

One thing that I thought was wacky was when they broke up and/or abbreviated WTC-NWK service because of work being done, while 33rd-HOB-JSQ service was unchanged. I thought it made the commute from NYC to Newark unnecessarily painful, because they could have just extended the 33rd-HOB-JSQ to Newark, and reduced the WTC-NWK service to a single shuttle to service Exchange Pl.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 22 02:28:21 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Andrew Saucci on Tue Sep 20 19:13:34 2022.

PATH may not end up being sardine cans, but they do have a decent number of standees.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 22 06:37:13 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 21 07:23:47 2022.

I saw this pic a few years ago and did a WTF....I wonder why they were changed???

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 22 07:51:19 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Sep 22 06:37:13 2022.



Chris: Most of the PATH stations can only handle seven car trains without major platform extensions. This means that the news train will go into service on the WTC-NWK line. The platfroms at WTC and NWK can handle nine car trains. Maybe Exchange Place (on the NWK tk) and Journal Square. I am not sure about Grove Street and Harrison. Does anyone know sure?

Also will the new cars be known as PA-6's?

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Sep 22 09:43:46 2022, in response to PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Sep 20 08:39:51 2022.

It'd be nicer if the NWK line ran more frequently than every 20 minutes outside rush hours.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 22 10:34:50 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 21 07:23:47 2022.

Definitely remember the transverse seating area.
This is the design the MTA chose for new car purchases after an "indepth study conducted on passenger movements within the subway car"
People have a tendency to group up around doors and center poles.

So the car appearance team came up with an ADA advantage interior with space availability group in the middle of the train..including wheel chair accommodation/packages/stroller. Standing poles within reach, leaning areas..with transverse seating near the end of the cats.

However, the new cars arriving will not have the new specs installed.
What was the point of R/D?
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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 11:55:13 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 22 02:25:41 2022.

Absolutely.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 11:57:42 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 20 18:29:49 2022.

Customer service. Then hire more crews! Those JSQ. via Hoboken trains are very crowded. You can have that pattern overnights, but not daytime and evenings.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 22 12:57:11 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 11:57:42 2022.

Sounds so easy, doesn't it? Your ideas and their actions would be two different things, I suspect.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 22 13:22:46 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 20 13:24:25 2022.

So you do agree that longitudinal seating is uncomfortable?

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 22 13:23:22 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Avid Reader on Wed Sep 21 07:23:47 2022.

Much better.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 22 13:24:57 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 22 10:34:50 2022.

So you do agree that longitudinal seating is uncomfortable?

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 22 14:28:38 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 22 13:24:57 2022.

I somehow find transverse seats pretty comfortable, and wall seats tolerable.

The Only issues I have with them are head and neck issues.
Other than that..I deal.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 22 14:58:11 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 22 13:22:46 2022.

I guess.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 22 16:38:43 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 21 01:19:43 2022.

In Gaelic the term for black Africans is “Blue people” since the term “black” refers to the color of a person’s hair and not their skin so that was the was the Irish referred to Africans. With that in mind, the blue seats on those cars that have them should cover Africans, African-Americans and even Caribbeans.

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Posted by Asgard on Thu Sep 22 16:43:10 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 22 07:51:19 2022.

According to the story, "in conjunction with a project to lengthen platforms in five New Jersey stations, expected to be completed by the end of 2022."

It probably won't be possible to divert trains if there's a blockage on the line to WTC, since neither Hoboken nor 33rd is long enough to turn 9-car trains.

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Re: PATH—Longer trains coming

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 22 17:03:01 2022, in response to Re: PATH—Longer trains coming, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 22 16:38:43 2022.

Not common in Dublin. And no, since "fear dubh" was a euphemism for the devil.

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Re: PATH . Longer trains coming

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 23 17:04:31 2022, in response to Re: PATH . Longer trains coming, posted by Asgard on Thu Sep 22 16:43:10 2022.

That's actually a pretty big minus there.

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