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Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022

https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensboro-plaza-getting-revamp-3-new-elevators-nicer-platforms


Queensboro Plaza Getting Revamp With 3 New Elevators, Nicer Platforms
The busy Long Island City station will also get roomier, brighter and safer, the MTA says but construction work will snarl subway service.

Nick Garber
Posted Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:53 pm ET
Updated Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:22 pm ET






LONG ISLAND CITY, QUEENS Thousands of commuters who pass through Queensboro Plaza each day will soon enjoy a roomier station and wheelchair-accessible elevators thanks to a significant renovation planned by the MTA.

Preliminary work has already begun on the project, which will build one elevator from the station's south side to its mezzanine, and another from the mezzanine to the platform, which serves the 7, N and W trains.

"This station is going to be accessible in a way that it really never has been before, which is pretty amazing," said Danny Randell, an MTA community relations staffer, at a Community Board 1 meeting on Wednesday.

Separately, as Patch reported in February, a developer planning a 26-story apartment tower on the station's north side is also planning to build a street-level elevator to the Queensboro Plaza mezzanine, taking advantage of a city rule that gives developers zoning bonuses in exchange for subway improvements and bringing the station's eventual total to three elevators.







About 14,000 daily riders passed through the N-W-7 station on an average pre-pandemic weekday, putting it in the busiest quarter of the city's subway stations. But its elevated platform remains ADA-inaccessible, forcing disabled commuters to take detours to the Queens Plaza or Court Square stations.

Construction will begin "in earnest" in the coming months, with excavation and other structural work in and below the station, Randell said Thursday. The whole project will wrap up around September 2024.

Better platforms; shutdowns planned
Meanwhile, the MTA will also extend Queensboro's cramped mezzanine by 50 feet to the east, giving commuters more room to wait. Track-level platform edges will be reconstructed, and the MTA will also install a new public address system, fire alarms, security cameras, lighting, and digital information screens, Randell said.







The new MTA elevator will be built on Queens Plaza South, in front of what is now EZ Pawn Shop, while the mezzanine-to-platform elevator will be constructed on the station's east side. On the north side, the developer-led project will also widen the pedestrian bridge and staircase that connect the station to the street. (A temporary staircase has already opened while the existing building on Queens Plaza North is demolished).

In one potential headache for commuters, the construction will snarl nighttime weekend service along the station's three subway lines starting next year.

The station will close entirely between 4 a.m. Saturday and 10 p.m. Sunday for 10 weekends in 2023 and 2024, with 7 trains limited to eastern Queens and N trains running along the R line. Another series of weekend closures will suspend N service within Astoria, and between Queens and Manhattan.






Starting this month, an equipment-hoisting area will be set up on the street below the station, resulting in an overnight traffic lane closure at Queens Plaza and the temporary loss of a few parking spaces.

The work at Queensboro is part of a broader accessibility push by the MTA, which is installing new elevators at seven other stations around the city in the next couple of years.

Community board members largely applauded the construction, though Mitch Waxman, who chairs CB1's transportation committee, pressed the MTA to consider building a walking transfer between the Queens Plaza and Queensboro Plaza stations which remain walled off from each other despite sitting mere feet apart.

"This is one of the most densely populated and growing parts of the United States of America," Waxman said. "Perhaps it's time for a walking transfer."


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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 12 21:09:49 2022, in response to Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022.

QVEENSBORO PLAZA

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by gbs on Fri May 13 01:31:05 2022, in response to Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022.


MTA will also install ... digital information screens

When the B-division countdown clocks were first installed a few years ago, the only Astoria N/W clock on the upper level was installed next to the Flushing track. I reported it to the TA back then, but it has never been corrected. In all this time, no TA supervisor has noticed it?

Later, when the #7 clocks were installed on the upper level, two of the three were correctly placed next to the Flushing track, but the middle one is next to the Astoria track. How hard is it to get this right?

And the article keeps referring to the "elevated platform", as if there's only one. Don't they know there are two, stacked one above the other?

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Allan on Fri May 13 10:57:17 2022, in response to Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022.

It has been 35 years since N trains provided any scheduled service along the Queens Blvd corridor.

Service started in August 1976 (to replace EE service) and ended May 24, 1987 when the N and R switched terminals.

CBTC is going to have to be inactivated along QB in order for the traffic to accommodate R46 on the N.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by ntrainride on Fri May 13 12:32:43 2022, in response to Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022.

the best line in that article was:

"...in front of what is now EZ Pawn Shop...".

the plan for a twenty-six story apartment building right at the station blows. it's already sick crowded over there. and not faggy manhattan-style crowded either. el trains and factories and highway ramps and tunnels and residential districts and rail yards and trucks.

fuckers think they can make every block murray hill.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 13 14:02:45 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Allan on Fri May 13 10:57:17 2022.

They could borrow the R160 fleet that normally parks at Queens Blvd tracks and Jamaica Yard to run.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Italianstallion on Fri May 13 15:13:58 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by ntrainride on Fri May 13 12:32:43 2022.

Faggy?

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by ntrainride on Fri May 13 19:19:01 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Italianstallion on Fri May 13 15:13:58 2022.

with all the bones of the city hidden.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by GojiMet86 on Fri May 13 20:46:48 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by gbs on Fri May 13 01:31:05 2022.

Those countdown clocks are half-assed. There's a bunch for the 7 but like one for the N/W, and it is in the middle of the platform.

Cuomo said the MTA would installed them at each station before the end of the year (2018 or 2019). Of course, how many or where they were placed was irrelevant, so long as they could they accomplished that goal.

I was in Montreal a couple of weeks ago. They have many screens and monitors per platform, at consistent distances, and with nothing in the way.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Allan on Sat May 14 10:42:01 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Italianstallion on Fri May 13 15:13:58 2022.

A misaligned auto spell check.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Allan on Sat May 14 11:10:53 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 13 14:02:45 2022.

They probably will but are there enough trains to provide the required level of service?

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:01:06 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Allan on Fri May 13 10:57:17 2022.

CBTC is going to have to be inactivated along QB in order for the traffic to accommodate R46 on the N.

Not happening that's not how it works..

Plenty of Laid up R160s along the Korridor that can be used...

They got a year to get this right..

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 14 12:10:09 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:01:06 2022.

Wonder if they would even grab the 8-car M trains sets that are out of use for the weekend ?

Is it true, they leave those on the Hillside tracks, and tend not to go to the yard ?

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:17:35 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Joe V on Sat May 14 12:10:09 2022.

Wonder if they would even grab the 8-car M trains sets that are out of use for the weekend ?

No most likely not that would just cause issues down the line past the Korridor..

Is it true, they leave those on the Hillside tracks, and tend not to go to the yard ?

Not enough Room in the Junkyard for those trains so they lay em up mainline...


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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Allan on Sat May 14 12:24:34 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:01:06 2022.

"They got a year to get this right.."

That means that they will have changed plans (at least twice) by the time the project starts.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 14 12:34:20 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:01:06 2022.

It'll mostly likely be all R160s.

If the F to Euclid and Full Length G to Coney can run on a weekend with 100% R160s, then so can just the N to Forest Hills.

Anything can happen though, it is going to be a year until then after all.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:34:43 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Allan on Sat May 14 12:24:34 2022.

That means that they will have changed plans (at least twice) by the time the project starts.

You are most likely correct!


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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by Railman718 on Sat May 14 12:35:24 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 14 12:34:20 2022.

Sounds about right..

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by VictorM on Sat May 14 14:50:03 2022, in response to Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu May 12 19:49:41 2022.

Since only the platforms and mezzanine, not the tracks, will be affected why can't they simply run the trains through without stopping and run shuttle buses to and from the nearest stations on the Flushing and Astoria lines? That's what they did on the Jamaica Av J/Z.

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Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills

Posted by gold_12th on Sat May 14 16:09:56 2022, in response to Re: Queensboro Plaza to receive 3 new elevators; N to Forest Hills, posted by Allan on Sat May 14 11:10:53 2022.

Weekend service headways already shitty enough. They can run 12 to 20 mins.

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