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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 19 18:52:05 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Q65A on Tue Oct 19 08:42:13 2021. Mine too. I'd take the E with my dad to 34th St & 8th Ave when I went with him to his office at the NYCRR railyard at 33d & 12th Ave to get his paycheck (payday was on his day off).The one thing that I remember was how dark it was looking out the RFW to the tracks ahead. The only light cast upon the tracks was the lights from the interior of the cars. This was years before those cars got sealed beams. Those old school motormen had to have a fine tuned operational instinct when running those trains w/o headlights & speedometers. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 19 18:52:15 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Q65A on Tue Oct 19 08:42:13 2021. The R-1/9s and BMT standards had chicken wire embedded in their storm door windows. I would imagine the Triplexes did, too, but I never rode on them. You could tell if a storm door window was replaced on prewar cars because you'd see glass with no chicken wire. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 19 20:30:16 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Oct 19 18:52:15 2021. The R-12s were the last cars on the system to have the wire reinforced glass. By the time of the R-15 improvements had been made in glass so that the wire wasn't needed. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Oct 20 03:10:48 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 18 03:30:30 2021. I rode the R160 "RFW" just the other day on the F from Roosevelt Av to Lex/63 to check out the CBTC signaling, after not having done that for several years. What a change! It's remarkable how many signals they've removed. After the leaving signal at Roosevelt Av (a home signal, top head blinking green, bottom head dark), the next signal isn't until deep into the tunnel under Northern Blvd (the street, not the station). Then there are a few more around where the old timers used to be, and then some approaching the 36 St interlocking. At the end of the 21 St platform there's a small yellow sign saying that CBTC ends there. Of course ATO is not yet in effect, so the train operators are really operating. Ours slowed down in the same places where the timers used to force them to. How do they know to do that now without wayside signals? Do they get some indications on their computer screens? Do they have to take their eyes away from the road often to look at the screen? That sound dangerous to me. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 21 02:10:50 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by gbs on Wed Oct 20 03:10:48 2021. When a speed reduction is called for, an alarm goes off in the cab to let the T/O know to slow down. If you ever became a T/O you would be surprised what you can see if you have to. You will see the trackway, the air gauge, and the screen all at the same time. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 21 07:27:36 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 21 02:10:50 2021. Do you know if there's automatic braking if the T/O fails to respond? One of the good things about the fixed-block system is that even if the T/O became totally incapacitated, the train would (theoretically) be tripped before anything happens that could cause injury. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Oct 21 14:42:46 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 21 02:10:50 2021. When a speed reduction is called for, an alarm goes off in the cab to let the T/O know to slow down. If you ever became a T/O you would be surprised what you can see if you have to. You will see the trackway, the air gauge, and the screen all at the same time.The SEPTA subway -surface trolleys have this in the tunnel, and operator friend showed us what happens when you exceed the allowed speed. The alarm buzzes, the trolley brakes come on and the cars stops.He flips open a cabinet door under the seat platform on his right side,and does a reset! Then off we go! |
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