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[PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021 Image from Jul 1, 1968. The tyke for his hands on the window should now be about 58 years of age with children and even grandchildren of his own.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Oct 16 11:18:05 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* Cool
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Andrew Saucci* on Sat Oct 16 11:59:53 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* Interesting to see the bare end on that car. The tyke doesn't look too happy for some reason.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Oct 16 12:41:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 16 11:59:53 2021.* The tyke doesn't look too happy for some reason. Could be the brightness of the sun. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Allan* on Sat Oct 16 13:33:05 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* There is a problem with the image host so I only saw the R40 slant for a few seconds. Sort of reminds me of when I was that age with my face against the window of a R1/9 when visiting my grandparents and they would take me to a museum.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Allan* on Sat Oct 16 14:33:47 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* There is a problem with the image host so I only saw the R40 slant for a few seconds. Sort of reminds me of when I was that age with my face against the window of a R1/9 when visiting my grandparents and they would take me to a museum.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Bill Newkirk* on Sat Oct 16 15:45:11 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Allan on Sat Oct 16 14:33:47 2021.* There is a problem with the image host so I only saw the R40 slant for a few seconds. At times imgbox images are slow loading. Bill Newkirk
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sat Oct 16 16:22:28 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* Before they had all that hardware grafted on.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Oct 16 17:53:12 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 15:45:11 2021.* I reloaded the message and the Image appeared.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sat Oct 16 19:08:45 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 16 16:22:28 2021.* IBefore they had all that hardware grafted on. Those pantograph gates, ugly.
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The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* Transit is cutting its own throat in not having a RFW today (the cloudy ones on the new techs don't count). When I was growing up it was my training tool for when I eventually became a MOTORMAN.I was not hired as a Train Operator, transit saw fit to change my classification only because women started to take the job. Looking out the RFW taught me about line-ups, points of no return, speed through grade time areas.....you name it. Today, prospective candidates for the job do not get that opportunity to learn the road till they get the job....on top of everything else they have to learn in school car. The first time they see that dark abyss in between stations is when their school car TSS' takes them out there. It's a lot to learn. Couple that to GO re-routes. Or if an R gets rerouted over the F/Q lines from 36th St. Queens to 57/7. There are many more examples you can think of. That's why many newbies prefer the IRT as it's much less to learn. So another RIP to the missing RFW, formerly a great training tool as well as a place which was the key to intrigue!
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Express Rider* on Sun Oct 17 00:26:14 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Allan on Sat Oct 16 13:33:05 2021.* It's something we all did bing back in the day and that's why we're posting here! :-)
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Oct 17 00:28:41 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* Great post.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Oct 17 02:01:07 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 17 00:28:41 2021.* Excellent post! Thanks, Bill from Maspeth
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Kevin from Midwood* on Sun Oct 17 02:44:39 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* Today, prospective candidates for the job do not get that opportunity to learn the road till they get the job… I'm pro-RFW of course, but this kind of thing is true of the vast majority of jobs everywhere. It's on the TA to provide adequate training. Prospective T/Os shouldn't be expected to roll their own on their own time and dime.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Oct 17 02:54:28 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Oct 17 02:44:39 2021.* Most people who take the job never did the RFW. They just took a civil service job and that's it.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Stephen Bauman* on Sun Oct 17 07:50:29 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* Today, prospective candidates for the job do not get that opportunity to learn the road till they get the job....on top of everything else they have to learn in school car. I would hope that train operation is completely automated so that the space occupied by T/O and C/R cabs could be used productively for passengers. BTW, the Airtrain has a rail fan window.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Sun Oct 17 09:00:24 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 17 02:54:28 2021.* Yep. To those folks it was "just another job" & not something that got into your blood as a kid like several motormen I've known.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sun Oct 17 11:49:49 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* The RFW had a lot to do with my subway immersion/indoctrination.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by ntrainride* on Sun Oct 17 12:40:33 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Oct 17 07:50:29 2021.* tampa airport people mover. filmed in august this summer.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Andrew Saucci* on Sun Oct 17 13:17:02 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 16 16:22:28 2021.* Actually, it looks as though provision was made for the additions from the beginning. Mount points for something are clearly visible right across the end.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Sun Oct 17 13:39:58 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Oct 17 07:50:29 2021.* There are (somewhat) modern heavy rail vehicles that are not automated that have a "railfan view" The Budd cars that are in Baltimore (and formerly in Miami) have this In those systems, unlike NYC, the operator sits on the left side. I have not yet ridden the current MDT cars, so I don't know what their configuration is. The Breda cars in L. A. have an almost identical configuration to the Budds. The last time I was in L. A. (1999) they had tinted the RFV window so you could hardly see through it (doesn't help that unlike the other systems, the B (Red) and D (Purple) lines are entirely underground). I don't know if the tint remains. Other systems like BART do not have a RFV. The "A" cars (slanted cab cars) you kinda had one, but the seat by the door to the cab faced away from the cab, so if you sat sideways, you could kinda see something. The "C" cars (cab cars with flat faces so they can also be placed mid-train) had no view whatsoever. Like Miami, I have not ridden the newest BART cars, so no idea what their configuration is like. The only other modern system I have ridden is MARTA, but I was not in the lead car either time.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Oct 17 17:29:07 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 17 13:39:58 2021.* Septa's Market-Frankford Subway Elevated have a RailFan Window, a 2 seater on the left front.The Silverliner V Regional rail cars have a Rail Fan window,2 seater on the left front.I know that used to be roped off, and the closest you could get was the second seat in that row. I am not able to ride them any more, I moved to North Carolina due to my health. I will try to find out if they opened up that first seat.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Oct 17 17:44:12 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 17:29:07 2021.* The front seat is not available. From Facebook. After the rocks got thrown through a SEPTA engineer's front window right before Amtrak 188 derailed, they stopped letting ppl sit there out of safety.
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Oct 17 17:48:11 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Oct 17 13:17:02 2021.* Mount points for something are clearly visible right across the end. I see the hooks.Thanks. Andrew Saucci
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Oct 17 18:12:07 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 17:44:12 2021.* Not out of safety but out of lawsuit avoidance.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by MainR3664* on Sun Oct 17 22:25:49 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* I used to view the ride from 242-VC to Rector Street from the RFW both ways- every day! I was 28-29 years old. Though I'd always loved the subway, I learned the entire signal system doing that. I'd usually ride the express between 96th and Chambers.... I learned, for example, that signals between 50th and 42nd (southbound) didn't clear all the way to green - they stayed yellow- until the preceding train had gotten quite some distance from 42nd. This seemed longer to me than the yellow interval just north of 72nd...
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Sun Oct 17 22:29:16 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 17 12:40:33 2021.* Thanks,nIce video!ntrainride!
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Oct 17 23:12:28 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Oct 17 02:54:28 2021.* That's why jobs like that ought to be in the private sector.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by ntrainride* on Sun Oct 17 23:26:56 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 22:29:16 2021.* tanks, bloss.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit* on Mon Oct 18 00:51:00 2021, in response to The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Oct 17 00:14:13 2021.* Amen, Bill! I wouldn't have wanted to be a motorman without that RFW access. All those rides at the RFW paid off greatly once school car started. In Aug 1997 I took my then-5-year-old daughter for a ride on the Q - specifically because the line had the R40 slants. She remembers that outing to this day :)
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by randyo* on Mon Oct 18 03:16:41 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 17:48:11 2021.* The U brackets are for the installation of the bologna springs which were on the 40s and 42s at the blind ends of the cars as delivered. They were never installed on the #1 ends of either the 40s or the 42s.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by randyo* on Mon Oct 18 03:30:30 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Mon Oct 18 00:51:00 2021.* Even with the slightly distorted view through the cab window of the R-46s on through the NTTs, it's still better than systems like London that have no window at all.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Oct 18 04:29:48 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 18 03:30:30 2021.* Even with the slightly distorted view through the cab window of the R-46s on through the NTTs, it's still better than systems like London that have no window at all. Thank you! rayndo
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Oct 18 04:43:46 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Mon Oct 18 00:51:00 2021.* In Aug 1997 I took my then-5-year-old daughter for a ride on the Q - specifically because the line had the R40 slants. She remembers that outing to this day :) Awesome!
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Oct 18 05:09:03 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Oct 18 04:29:48 2021.* Thanks,randyo
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Oct 18 08:14:01 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 17:44:12 2021.* Now they have roped off the first two rows of seats on the SL-Vs. This was ostensibly done for COVID social distancing, but SEPTA has since returned to full-capacity seating. Yet those first two rows are still roped off. When the railroads take something away, they seldom give it back.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Joe V* on Mon Oct 18 12:39:46 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 18 03:30:30 2021.* Neither does PATH, and they did it deliberately.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Oct 18 13:30:56 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 18 12:39:46 2021.* Wow!
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Oct 18 13:49:08 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 18 12:39:46 2021.* Which operators did it accidentally?
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Re: [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Mon Oct 18 15:16:51 2021, in response to [PHOTO] The Railfan Window Perfect For Small Children, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 16 11:11:04 2021.* For a railfan the term brown nose has a different meaning!!
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Oct 18 15:43:57 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 18 12:39:46 2021.* Yes they did. They really fucked the railfans under the guise of "safety"
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Mon Oct 18 19:23:09 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 18 08:14:01 2021.* I'm sure the engineer has some kind of special strong glass that can withstand a big impact for operator safety. I wish SEPTA would put the same on the passenger "RFW" side and be done with it.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Andrew Saucci* on Mon Oct 18 22:58:08 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 18 03:30:30 2021.* That's correct-- at least the signals were still readable, and a train ahead would also be clearly visible.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Joe V* on Tue Oct 19 08:12:34 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 18 19:23:09 2021.* They put in a heavy aluminum window sash for the motorman's window on the SMEE cars. Does that mean it got heavier glass ?
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Q65A* on Tue Oct 19 08:42:13 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 19 08:12:34 2021.* My early RFW experiences began during the 1960s on R1-9s on the GG. Their storm door windows were big and wide, and the bottom edges were low enough for a small kid to look outside easily. Back then I didn't know a homeball from a baseball but I recall that many homeballs on the QBL were located at or near "important" (i.e. express) stops... One quirk: if I recall correctly, the glass had "chicken wire" embedded in it (you sometimes can see this on the RFW videos posted at DJH and other YouTube sites).
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100* on Tue Oct 19 10:58:56 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Q65A on Tue Oct 19 08:42:13 2021.* That's a similar style of reinforced window that you'd see in a NYC public school. It's meant to keep the glass from shattering into 5792790471914802395893425 pieces on the floor if it broke.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by MainR3664* on Tue Oct 19 14:42:20 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Oct 17 17:29:07 2021.* I've looked out the RFW on the Market-Frankford Line. They have a lot of crossovers, presumably to route around disabled trains and to run short segments if they need to close a segment for maintenance.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Tue Oct 19 15:44:05 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 19 14:42:20 2021.* I've looked out the RFW on the Market-Frankford Line. They have a lot of crossovers, presumably to route around disabled trains and to run short segments if they need to close a segment for maintenance. Yes, true, I have been on trains that used those crossovers.
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Re: The RFW Served a Purpose
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Tue Oct 19 16:55:19 2021, in response to Re: The RFW Served a Purpose, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 19 08:12:34 2021.* Yes.
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