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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Aug 5 23:06:21 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 4 16:46:10 2021. Those are great! |
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Posted by George Foelschow on Thu Aug 5 23:19:01 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by transitbuff on Thu Aug 5 16:50:19 2021. A solution for a non-existent problem. Chicago's rapid transit system has existed for 130 years with uncovered third rail. Whether elevated, subway, or ground level, the right-of-way is verboten for trespassers. Since third rail shoes are gravity actuated, it would no doubt require modification to every car in the fleet if the third rail was covered. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 6 11:57:52 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by George Foelschow on Thu Aug 5 23:19:01 2021. All due respect but as a retire cta motorman and lifelong railfan I disagree. When I was younger I always thought the 3rd rail everywhere, not just Chicago was uncovered, until I started traveling and noticed that everywhere else in North American all rapid transit systems with the exception of Chicago and Boston had covered 3rd rail. Covered 3rd rail is much safer. Do I think it's a priority to cover them? No. But all future cta rail car expenditures should have a pancake 3rd trolley shoes, similar to the 2200 series. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Aug 6 13:21:41 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 2 15:42:12 2021. +1 |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 6 19:01:41 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Aug 5 14:42:08 2021. Would the movement of the building also change its legal address if moved far enough? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 6 19:06:56 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 6 11:57:52 2021. I agree. As I recall, the Boston T equipment now has paddle type shoes but still declines to install 3rd rail cover boards. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 6 21:31:23 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 6 19:01:41 2021. Good question. I don't know. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 7 06:47:24 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 6 19:01:41 2021. Chicago's address numbers are very orderly. If moved so much as 1 block, they would at least have to bump up the address by 50. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 7 13:03:31 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 7 06:47:24 2021. You ain't lying. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Aug 7 16:05:17 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 7 06:47:24 2021. Yes. A very easy city in which to navigate--unlike Bklyn, Quns. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sat Aug 7 17:21:11 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 7 06:47:24 2021. Sorry, Joe V is wrong. If you moved 1 block, your address will bump by 100, not 50. Chicago is laid in straight lines....eight blocks to a mile. There is one exception....south side, between Madison St. to 31st St. Madison to 12th St. (Roosevelt), one mile, 12 blocks....Roosevelt to 22nd St (Cermak), one mile, 10 blocks....Cermak to 31st, one mile, 9 blocks. All the rest, 1 mile streets, called sectional streets, are all 8 blocks apart all the way to the city limits, 138th St. 39th, 47th, 55th, 63rd, 71st, 79th, 87th, 95th, 103rd, 111th, 119th, 127th. 130th, 138th. You're wondering, how did the streets change to even numbers?? You've crossed the South Indian Boundary line.Going back to Jos V's question. Each block has address numbers from 100 to 159, even on west side of the street, odd on the east side. The next block starts at 200. You skip 160 to 199. Next to 79th St. all addresses begin with 79XX. Next to 95th, addresses start with 95XX. Notice how sectional streets mark things in the 'L' system....63rd the old Jackson Park line, 95th, the end of the Red line, 130th, the extension of the Red line if it gets built. This article only deals with the south side. All other sides are the same. Every street has address number. Western Ave, is 2400W. The first address west of Western is 2400, 2401 on the odd side of the street. Kedzie Ave is 3200W. Stony Island Ave. is 1600E. Belmont is 3200N. Howard St. is 7200N. I left out the "RE" in the subject. Sorry for the repost. David Harrison |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 7 19:30:04 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Aug 4 12:23:36 2021. Yes ,I was with hm on his last night before he passed away. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Aug 7 19:35:06 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 7 19:30:04 2021. Very swell guy. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 7 19:37:28 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Aug 7 19:30:04 2021. I got word the next morning about his passing, what a shock, he seemed healthy to me! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 7 22:06:31 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Aug 7 16:05:17 2021. Denver is easy to get around in as well. Downtown has its own diagonal grid, but the rest of the metro area is on a north-south grid. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 8 14:14:35 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 7 22:06:31 2021. Salt Lake City too, but I find their nomenclature very confusing. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 9 07:41:07 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Aug 7 16:05:17 2021. Queens has an orderly numbering system, except that it’s imposed on a disorderly set of streets, unlike Chicago. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Aug 9 16:08:25 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 9 07:41:07 2021. Drives, Streets, Avenues, Roads, Places,??? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 9 17:22:52 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Aug 9 16:08:25 2021. There’s an advantage to having most streets be numbered, instead of having to deal with names.The order is Avenue, Road, Drive, Terrace or Street, Place, Lane. Courts go either way. Miami has a similar system except the order is different and like Chicago there are quadrants. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 9 17:30:47 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 9 07:41:07 2021. Parts of Bkln have a similar system but unfortunately it’s not used in the entire borough. |
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Posted by VictorM on Mon Aug 9 18:00:59 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Aug 9 16:08:25 2021. And Boulevards and Lanes. Streets generally run north and south and Avenues generally run east and west. Numbers increase towards the east and south. Places and Lanes are generally parallel to and between successive numbered streets, while Roads and Drives are generally parallel to and between successive Avenues. Also the west side of streets and the south side of Avenues have even numbers while the other sides have odd numbers. From the address you can even almost pinpoint the exact location. For example 110-19 101 Av (I used to live there) is on the north side of 101 Av , 190 feet east of 110 St. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 9 18:41:55 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 9 17:22:52 2021. With few exceptions, streets and boulevards in metro Denver run north-south while avenues and roads run east-west. In downtown Denver, numbered streets run northwest-southeast while named streets run northeast-southwest. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Aug 10 04:40:23 2021, in response to Re: CTA Moving Historic Chicago Building, posted by VictorM on Mon Aug 9 18:00:59 2021. For example 110-19 101 Av (I used to live there) is on the north side of 101 Av , 190 feet east of 110 St.That's interesting, thanks! VictorM |
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