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Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 21 08:26:13 2021

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Apr 21 08:51:18 2021, in response to Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 21 08:26:13 2021.

Wow....

I consider any expansion of rail service (except LGA Airtrain) a good thing. I didn't know Boston was doing this, or that the project was so far along. This seem like their first major new line in years...

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Apr 21 10:28:59 2021, in response to Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 21 08:26:13 2021.

The Green Line vehicles, both old and new, are not attractive in my opinion, but I'm still glad this expansion is moving along well.

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Subfan on Wed Apr 21 15:55:39 2021, in response to Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 21 08:26:13 2021.

This is nice, but it would have been nicer if they could have also restored the E line all the way out to Arborway. That "temporary" suspension was finally made permanent, and this extension at the other end of the line is supposed to make up for it - but the folks in Jamaica Plains are still shafted...

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 16:45:09 2021, in response to Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 21 08:26:13 2021.

The 4.7-mile extension will connect Cambridge, Somerville and Medford, placing 80% of Bostonians within a half-mile from a T stop. Currently only 20% live within that distance.

How can a single 4.7-mile extension increase the number of Bostonians within half a mile of a T station from 20% to 80%?



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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 17:22:54 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 16:45:09 2021.

I had the same question.

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Apr 21 17:28:22 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 21 17:22:54 2021.

While the ## sound wrong, look at a T map. The Green extension will serve an area without other nearby rail.

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 17:35:00 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 16:45:09 2021.

And none of the new stations are in Boston, so it appears that few if any “Bostonians” will end up any closer to a T station.

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Dave on Wed Apr 21 18:01:22 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 17:35:00 2021.

C'mon now. Are you saying people who live in Cambridge or Somerville don't consider themselves Bostonians?

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 18:05:00 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 21 18:01:22 2021.

But if you consider some version of greater Boston, it still makes no sense that the Green Line extension improves 1/2-mile coverage from 20% to 80%. 20% seems way too low and 80% way too high.



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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 19:27:52 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by Dave on Wed Apr 21 18:01:22 2021.

But then if you expand the definition of “Bostonian” their numbers make even less sense.

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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 19:55:15 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 21 19:27:52 2021.

Yeah, the 80% number seems too high for either the literal Boston or some expanded version of Boston. And similarly the 20% number seems too low unless you talk about the whole metro area (in which case, of course, one little Green Line extension doesn't make much difference at all).



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Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule

Posted by Ancient Mariner on Wed Apr 21 20:55:11 2021, in response to Re: Boston Green line extension on schedule, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 21 19:55:15 2021.

The numbers have been "cooked" to make the extension sound more significant than it is. In other words, the particular version of Greater Boston that's been selected is one that's concentrated around the new line in East Cambridge and in Somerville, and so naturally the line radically increases the proportion of those people served.

If you just look at the Boston SMSA, as defined by the Census Bureau, the numbers are nothing like the 20/80 cited here.

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