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What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021

A post on the site about the closed northbound platforms at Bowery and Canal Street got me wondering - are there any now-abandoned stations that you once used regularly?

I’ll start. When I worked in Manhattan between 1994 and 2009, I used the J line pretty often, especially when I lived in Queens. I liked the one-seat ride between Jamaica and the Financial District and the RFW views in the R-40M’s and R-42s were outstanding. I visited the northbound platforms at Canal and Bowery pretty often and was familiar with them.

Almost all of the other now-abandoned facilities were closed before my time or were on lines I never used.

You?

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Mar 10 22:58:28 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

Almost all of the other now-abandoned facilities were closed before my time or were on lines I never used.

Almost all the people also never used those stations. That's why they were abandoned.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 00:12:25 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Mar 10 22:58:28 2021.

Well, that’s not necessarily true. Stations like Bowery and Canal were used quite heavily. They were closed to speed up service on the line. Myrtle Avenue was closed because of a rebuilding job of the approach to DeKalb Avenue.

And even if they were sparsely used that doesn’t mean that people here didn’t use them.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 11 00:50:28 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 00:12:25 2021.

Not only did it speed up service it saved money on platform and track maintenance.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 11 01:07:56 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

Since you didn't specify any railroad, I'll put forth North Rahway in New Jersey when I worked at Merck.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Mar 11 02:36:31 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 11 01:07:56 2021.

One of the busier stations closed in recent decades was the LIRR's Southampton Campus station. When the railroad started introducing its bilevel diesel coaches in the late 1990's it closed some low-platform stations rather than rebuilding them with the high platforms that the new coaches required. Ridership surveys showed that hardly anyone used he Southampton Campus station and it got the proverbial boot.
In fact, many students from the adjacent Long Island University campus used the station, but because the survey took places during a break in classes - whether intentional or not is still debated - it showed very low ridership. In a way it didn't matter, as LIU closed the campus several years later and if the station had still been open it would have lost almost all its ridership. SUNY Stony Brook now owns the campus but there are very few students at the site, far too few to support a train station.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Mar 11 07:37:26 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 00:12:25 2021.

91 St was also closed because 96 St was extended. Same thing with Worth Street that I used once or twice, when Brooklyn Bridge was extended.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:00:38 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.




I could add Worth Street to the list, also Gun Hill Road (lower level).

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:11:41 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.



I could add a few more to the list; 9th Avenue (lower level), PATH Hudson Terminal, Nassau and Atlantic on the SIRT. There was also the South Ferry loop station.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Ancient Mariner on Thu Mar 11 10:06:49 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

I used the Washington Avenue station on the Myrtle Avenue El every day, when I was attending Pratt. I was done by the time the El was demolished, so the abandonment didn't affect me directly, but I still miss the whole experience.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 10:55:00 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

I've ridden the elevated J to 168th, the Bronx segment of the 3rd Ave El, and the closed portion of the Myrtle Ave El, for fun.

When I was young, I rode from time to time on New Haven Railroad trains that stopped at the Columbus Avenue station in Mt. Vernon, but never gotten on or off there.



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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 11 11:57:16 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

I'm younger than you, so the only station that I ever used with any regularity that's now abandoned is South Ferry. I've also been to the old WTC PATH, and Cortlandt on the 1, which were completely destroyed and replaced.

In the case of Bowery and Canal, I have used those, but IIRC I only ever used Bowery southbound, once in 2000, so I don't think I ever stood on the northbound platform. I recall using Canal northbound. I also rode through but never used northbound Atlantic (L), but used the southbound platform, AND the abandoned center platform due to a G.O., prior to the time it was disconnected and the northbound platform demolished. I also set foot at City Hall, but obviously not while it was in service, as part of the centennial on 10/27/2004.

As for stations that were abandoned in my lifetime, the only other ones, and which I never used, are Metropolitan Avenue and Queens Boulevard on the J, Dean Street, and Ball Park (opened AND closed!), Nassau, and Atlantic on the SIR. Although I've ridden through the last two.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:33:04 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 11 11:57:16 2021.

Ha. Forgot about South Ferry. I've used both sides of the loop (the inner loop maybe once or twice at most - that was once used by the shuttle from Bowling Green if I have that right).



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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:34:33 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:11:41 2021.

Oh, I've ridden the Culver Shuttle for fun.



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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 11 12:35:24 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:33:04 2021.

Which means that you also used the abandoned BG shuttle platform.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Q4 on Thu Mar 11 13:17:17 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 11 11:57:16 2021.

While in High School, I used the old Queens Boulevard Station on the Jamaica El a couple of times when it was used as a temporary terminal after they closed the 168th St. Terminal Station and prior to the line being cut back to 121st.

I also used old South Ferry Station before it was originally closed and during the time it was re-opened while the new station was repaired.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Mar 11 13:19:11 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 10:55:00 2021.

the Bronx segment of the 3rd Ave El , So did I.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:04:42 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:00:38 2021.

Worth Street, really? Weird station - extended on the downtown side only. Did the conductor make the "first five cars" announcement only on northbound trains?

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:06:16 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:33:04 2021.

I forgot about South Ferry too. I never used the inner platform but I was there on a Transit Museum tour in 1996, called "Curios of the IRT".

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:20:29 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:34:33 2021.

The closest I ever got to riding the Culver Shuttle was standing on the island platform at Ditmas Avenue when I was a kid and wondering what the single track was used for and where it went. I never saw a train on the shuttle tracks.

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75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:29:54 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 11 00:50:28 2021.

If saving money on platform and track maintenance is an important criterion for closing a station, then 75th Avenue on the QB line should have been closed a long time ago. In the many years that I lived in Queens and rode the QB line, I almost never saw anyone get on or off at 75th Avenue, or anyone on the platform waiting for a train. In fact, the other passengers used to groan when they felt the train hit the switch from the express to the local track east of 71st-Continental Ave station.

Its pretty clear that 75th Avenue was built simply to put a station about halfway between Union Turnpike and 71st-Continental. There really isn't anything in the area that justified a local station. The stats bear this out - in 2019, Union Turnpike was the 48th busiest station in the system and 71st-Continental was 42nd. 75th Avenue ranked all the way down at #351. Clearly, people would rather walk the few blocks either to Union Turnpike or 71st-Continental Ave's, where the service is much better.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 11 14:43:14 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:34:33 2021.

I did too. Fall of 1974. Glad I did before it closed (I missed out on lower Myrtle and 3rd Av (Bronx only) (in fairness, I was only 10 when Myrtle closed, I did not railfan solo at that time. 3rd Av closed while I was living in Illinois).

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Mar 11 14:50:15 2021, in response to 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:29:54 2021.

I remember the crickets chirping at 75th Ave, when I took the "E" or "F" to/from St Johns univ in the mid-1960's.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:56:26 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Elkeeper on Thu Mar 11 14:50:15 2021.

The same situation happened with 91st Street on the west side IRT. It was only built to split the 10-block gap between 86th and 96th. Problem was, by putting a station at 91st, there were now 3 stations in a space of 1/2 mile. I’m surprised 91st hung on as long as it did (1959).

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 15:49:47 2021, in response to 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:29:54 2021.

If saving money on platform and track maintenance is an important criterion for closing a station, then 75th Avenue on the QB line should have been closed a long time ago.

Close down that station and watch the hand full of passengers who use it raise hell.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 16:06:47 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 12:34:33 2021.

Oh, I've ridden the Culver Shuttle for fun.

To me riding the AB's on the Culver Shuttle was fun. Just squeeze those window latches and drop the sash on the RFW and of we go!
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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 11 17:31:15 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 15:49:47 2021.

Between 71st-Cintinental and 75th Avenue, the measurement is about 2,300 feet in distance length. Between 75th Avenue and Union Turnpike-Kew Gardens, it is about 2,200 feet in distance.

Besides, I personally like 75th Avenue on the IND because of its cool looking mint green motif on the platform columns and color band tiles there. I have taken my own share of my own picture taking there, usually on the Jamaica-bound platform side though.

75th Avenue, IND Queens Boulevard Line, March 30, 2009.


-William A. Padron
["75th (Puritan) Ave."]


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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 11 17:45:07 2021, in response to 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:29:54 2021.

I'm not sure if the full-length mezzanine helps or hurts its cause. It's a lot of infrastructure to maintain, but at the same time, it's a lot of infrastructure to just give up on. I guess they could just block off the superfluous parts.

Also, I understand the station is used as a pedestrian underground crossing.

I'm surprised that 75th Ave ranks down that far on the ridership list based on the high rise apartments in the area but there's something like a gap in the shopping/eateries right around there (Austin Street's commercial area ends at Ascan Ave, with a church/school taking up an entire city block on Ascan's west side between Queens Blvd and Austin St) and even Queens Blvd becomes "quiet" right around that station.

The LIRR tracks to the south and the GCP (and Jamaica Yard maybe?) to the north come so close to Queens Blvd at that point that there is very little within walking distance (that isn't closer to other stations). I think there's a closed hospital building still in that area? Parkway Hospital?

Is there any further development potential in that geographically-awkward area? That's probably the biggest question before deciding what to do with the station.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 17:48:19 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 11 12:35:24 2021.

Yes.


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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 11 17:48:30 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 11 17:31:15 2021.

Was there any "Puritan Ave" mosaic signs there?

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 11 18:06:16 2021, in response to 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:29:54 2021.

I used 75th Ave. when my sister lived in Forest Hills - if the train I was on switched from express to local. Otherwise, I'd stay on board to Union Turnpike.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 11 18:11:19 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:04:42 2021.

Speaking of announcements (or lack thereof), my aunt told me that during her visit to New York in 1959, she wanted to go to the Battery, but didn't realize she had to be in the first five cars in order to get off at South Ferry. Finally after two trips around the loop, she asked the conductor and he explained it to her. She couldn't remember if the trains were new or old, but since there were no announcements, I assumed they were Lo-Vs.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 11 18:12:59 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 10:55:00 2021.

I rode on JJ and QJ trains out to 168th St., too.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 11 18:16:25 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 11 17:48:30 2021.

No, only on the old Hagstrom and vintage IND maps had that name of "75th (Puritan) Avenue" on them though. I have seen no trace if any additional signs (perhaps made of wood) were ever placed on the station walls.

IND (Independent Subway) Route Map (1937) (JPG)


-William A. Padron
["<-76th Ave-<"]

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 11 18:34:56 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 11 18:16:25 2021.

Interesting! Thanks for posting that map.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 11 18:38:03 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Mar 11 18:11:19 2021.

In 1959 after Feb , the max length trains run on the Bway Lcl were 8 cars. Passengers were advised at Rector St to move to the first 4 cars of the train to get off at So/Fy. Prior to Feb 6 all the trains on the lcls serving So/Fy were 5 cars mostly Lo-Vs with a few R types in prep for the service change. Late PMs and weekends the Lex went into the Ferry and in that case the passengers would have to be advised to go to the first 5 cars of the train and announcements should have been made by the supervision at Bowling Green or the platform C/Rs on duty at that station who were assigned there to lookout the center doors on the Lo-Vs going into the station. You didn’t mention whether she was coming from the west side or the east side which would give an indication of the type of equipment she might have been on. On weekends when the Bway lcls were operating 6 car trains the C/R positions were set at 5 cars south and 6 cars north so that only the passengers in the rear car had to be notified. When the trains returned to V/C since they were now 5 north and 1 south, the plat C/Rs had to redrum the trains so they would again be 5 south and 1 north. Although I didn’t ride the Lex into So/Fy that much even on weekends but I assume a similar situation existed with those trains as well.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 18:56:40 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 11 17:48:30 2021.

Was there any "Puritan Ave" mosaic signs there?

I once used that station, Manhattan bound side. I somehow remember that there was Puritan Ave tiles but they either painted over or new tiles replaced them. Can anyone confirm this ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 18:59:40 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:00:38 2021.

I could add Worth Street to the list, also Gun Hill Road (lower level).

Larry, RedbirdR33


The key words in the title are used regularly. Was this the case ?

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 19:05:07 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 11 10:55:00 2021.

I've ridden the closed portion of the Myrtle Ave El, for fun.

I guess you mean the portion of the line from Broadway to Bridge-Jay St. I've have ridden "old Myrt" for fun too. The Q Types made it a special experience.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 11 19:07:22 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:56:26 2021.

It seems that state of the art for station locations on the original subways and els was to have them a lot closer than it was in later years. In some cases stations were placed close together due to some sort of particular business or landmark that necessitated a station there.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 11 20:25:27 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 11 08:00:38 2021.

I’ve used quite a few abandoned stations most of which were also on lines themselves that are also abandoned on a relatively regular basis. I often used Bway/Myrtle when railfanning the el to change to the Jamaica Line as well as Bridge/Jay when I worked Myrtle as a M/M. I used the stations at 168 St, 160 St and Sutphin Blvd on the Jamaica line when going to/from Queens college depending on which bus I decided to use that particular day. While railfanning, I would use both loop platforms at South Ferry as well as the shuttle platform at Bowling Green. I frequented 9 Av Lower both when railfanning and when I worked the Culver Shuttle as a M/M. When My grandmother lived in the South Bronx my mother and ik would board at 138 St on the 3 Av El or sometimes when shopping, 149/3 and take the el to Grand St to the Bowery Savings Bank which was there. After the el was ended in Manhattan I would often railfan it to Gun Hill Rd lower level and back. certain Sunday afternoons m father and I would take the 7 Av Exp to the now demolished 180 St/Bx Pk station. Other Sundays we would take the Bway Exp to 242 St walk across van Cortlandt Pk and take a Putnam Div NYC train to Sedgwick Av where where would boar the Polo Grounds Shuttle to 155 St and change for the IND back home. My father worked for the Dept of Correction at its headquarters at 100 Centre St so My mother and I would take the Lex Lcl and get off at Worth St. Also while railfanning, I would use the abandoned Fulton St el platform at Franklin and Fulton and the first time I rode it circa 1959, not only were the 2 abandoned platforms there, but for that short section of el structure the rails and ties were still there although heavily rust covered. When I went there the next time about a year later, the rails and ties were gone. Those are the stations I used on a relatively regular basis although not always for work or school but other purposes. Although I didn't use them regularly, I paid single visits to the S/B platform at Gold St (Myrtle Av) which is no longer there but not the N/B platform which remains. That same day, my father rode the Myrtle for my first time. Coincidentally with that I rode the Fulton St el my only time N/O 80 St and due to a single tk operation had to change tains at the original Fulton St el station at Grant Ave.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 20:51:36 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 11 18:56:40 2021.

I remember seeing mosaics that read “Puritan” but not Puritan Avenue.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 20:53:05 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by Elkeeper on Thu Mar 11 14:50:15 2021.

The same situation happened with 91st Street on the west side IRT. It was only built to split the 10-block gap between 86th and 96th. Problem was, by putting a station at 91st, there were now 3 stations in a space of 1/2 mile. I’m surprised 91st hung on as long as it did (1959).

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by BMT Standard on Thu Mar 11 22:16:13 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 11 14:04:42 2021.

Regarding Worth St.

Around 1950, the local stations on the East Side IRT were extended from five to ten car lengths. 23rd, 28th, and 33rd St. stations were extended on both sides. Stations between Brooklyn Bridge and 14th St: Worth St., Canal St., Spring St., Bleecker St., and Astor Pl. were only extended on the southbound side. 18th St. station was closed at this time. Until the early 1960s when Brooklyn Bridge station was extended northward, the local tracks on both sides could only platform five cars.

Northbound trains would only open the first four or five cars at Brooklyn Bridge and succeeding stations until they got to 14th St. While passengers could board at the front of the train at Brooklyn Bridge and walk back through the cars, announcements were generally not made to let passengers in the rear of the train know that doors would not open until they got to 14th St. I don't recall whether announcements were made on southbound locals approaching Brooklyn Bridge.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by VictorM on Thu Mar 11 22:19:44 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by William A. Padron on Thu Mar 11 18:16:25 2021.

I think one of the street entrances once said Puritan Ave.

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 12 04:29:03 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by VictorM on Thu Mar 11 22:19:44 2021.

There might a bit of clue each in these images from nycsubway.org if there were any hints of "Puritan Avenue" signage. Look at the drill holes on the side walls along the platform, and underneath at least the large mosaic tablets. Probably some additional signs attached to say that avenue name?

75th Avenue, IND Queens Boulevard Line; December 14, 2007 (all images by Roberto C. Tobar).




-William A. Padron
["75 Avenue"]


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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Mar 12 07:59:24 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 12 04:29:03 2021.

Nice pictures. The station is empty, as usual,

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Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?)

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Mar 12 08:39:52 2021, in response to Re: 75th Avenue (Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?), posted by William A. Padron on Fri Mar 12 04:29:03 2021.



William: My 1948 subway map list this station as "75 AV - Puritan Av". The 1961 map refers to it only as "75 Av (Queens Blvd)". I looked at the google map and it seems that Puritan Avenue still exists but ends about one block short of the station. Maybe at one time it went all the way through to Queens Blvd.

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Mar 12 08:39:55 2021, in response to What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Mar 10 22:53:29 2021.

Was there a lower platform beneath the current local platforms at 75th Avenue.
I ask because the yard tracks drop below the the main line.
There is a set of stairs on each platform with a locked door and stairs going to a lower level.
These lower levels once had tracks going to the Jamaica Yard and the 1939 Worlds Fair.
Does anyone have knowledge of lower level platforms?

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Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Mar 12 08:53:14 2021, in response to Re: What Are the Now-Abandoned Stations You Once Used Regularly?, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Mar 12 08:39:55 2021.


Avid: There are no platforms on the lower level. The stairways may be for access to the tunnels.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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