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Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 11:51:55 2021 Septa is using 2 K-Cars to test out the Route 15. PCC-IIs are not available as they are in for repairs/overhaul. Photos from a friend and Steve Barry's Facebook Page.     Photos are at the rebuilt Richmond-Westmoreland Loop. |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by ro_jo on Thu Feb 25 14:38:48 2021, in response to Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 11:51:55 2021. My favorite transit vehicle! I grew up riding these, and aside from the digitized route signs, they haven't changed a bit :)You can tell when someone's riding them for the first time, as they don't know to "step down" to actuate the back doors. Luckily everyday riders are always ready to give newbies an earful when they make that mistake! |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 14:58:47 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by ro_jo on Thu Feb 25 14:38:48 2021. Thank you, ro_jo |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 15:04:48 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 14:58:47 2021.       More testing photos, car is at Richmond and Cambria Sts,in the top photo. |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Feb 26 17:46:27 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 15:04:48 2021. Chuck -- Thanks for the photos and update. I had heard this was about to happen., Obviously, the present INEPTA heads were not aware that the K cars were used in revenue service on Route 15 back in 1992 -- almost 30 years ago -- see video link belowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agqMIQtAAA8 regards - Joe F |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Feb 26 18:36:04 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Fri Feb 26 17:46:27 2021. Thanks, Joe F. That was before the line was deemed to be ADA. People welcomed the K cars , they had A/C which was welcomed in the summer. |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Feb 27 00:01:31 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Feb 26 18:36:04 2021. Hello again ChuckI ALSO think the present testing was done specifically to test the all brand new streetcar trackage installed from just east of Frankford Ave. on Girard Ave. to the entirely new streets (with its 2 tracks) rerouting along I-95 and the trackage installed new on Richmond Street and the new loop there at Westmoreland & Richmond. As well as to check the overhead fitting and alignment vs: car rooftop trolley poles. These Kawasaki cars would be the first (and only trolley fleet now available) to test the new trackage and overhead wire and alignments. Of course, the test cars had to come from Callowhill Barns in West Philly so these cars actually had to run over most of the Girard Ave route anyway to get to the all newly installed trackage by I-95 corridor north to Richmond Loop that had to be tested. But I am positive you already know that anyway. But for those who don't, well... that's it above. regards - Joe F |
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Feb 27 04:03:36 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Feb 27 00:01:31 2021. Thank you, the cars used 59th st. from Callowhill district , then R. on Girard.This is a 1990 track map..1990 map Of course , today , Cumberland loop is gone and it looks different at the eastern end with the new alignment. and loop. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Sat Feb 27 22:09:12 2021, in response to Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 11:51:55 2021. What the heck are those? Looks like some poor PCC has its chassis ripped out and rebodied. Whatever happened, it doesn't like it, you can tell by the sad-face expression on the front! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Feb 28 09:53:20 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Sat Feb 27 00:01:31 2021. The Kawasaki Trolleys came with trolley poles or Pantographs. Witch were better and cheaper?Does it depend on the Route?      Pants up front  Are these double ended? 
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Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15 |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:51:16 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Feb 28 09:53:20 2021. The city cars have poles; the suburban cars (Media-Sharon Hill) have pantographs. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:54:55 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:51:16 2021. The city cars are single-ended and loop on every route. The suburban cars are double-ended and reverse direction in Media and Sharon Hill. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Feb 28 13:32:04 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:54:55 2021. Tracks end abruptly in the street in Media. Sharon Hill has a bumper block behind the stone wall.Media  Sharon Hill 
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 17:03:37 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Feb 28 13:32:04 2021. T one time there was an Acme supermarket right at the end of track in media. Due to the number of railfans photographing the cars at that spot it was often referred to as the most photographed Acme super market in the world. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Feb 28 17:23:31 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 17:03:37 2021.  I forget when the ACME moved out. Now it's bunch of business stores. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Feb 28 20:19:25 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:54:55 2021. Thanks for the heads-up concerning the types of trolley and where they provided service. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Feb 28 20:26:23 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by chuchubob on Sun Feb 28 10:51:16 2021. Ah ha!With loops, no need for two poles or dual ends . Where as, Pants work either way. I see Now! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 28 22:21:07 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Feb 28 20:26:23 2021. The single-end Newark Subway PCCs had pantographs towards the end of service. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 23:33:16 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 28 22:21:07 2021. According to a NJT official, who guided an ERA tour of the City Subway, once the wire was modified for pantograph operation, the pans were installed on the PCCs in preparation for the LRVs. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Mar 1 07:50:05 2021, in response to Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Feb 25 11:51:55 2021. Nice, I was at the other side of Girard yesterday - - feels so weird to see buses running instead of the PCC trolleys - - hopefully they will come back soon. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 1 09:04:42 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Mar 1 07:50:05 2021. Thank you. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 1 17:40:50 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 23:33:16 2021. once the wire was modified for pantograph operation?Just what modifications were done? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 1 18:23:55 2021, in response to Re: Septa K cars testing the Route 15, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Mar 1 17:40:50 2021. Outside trolley wire was replaced with catenary wire. Don't know if the voltage was already 750V at that time. |
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