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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 26 20:41:50 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. because the platform is so low. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Feb 26 21:52:25 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. Could possibly be in a curved station.WE-44 |
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Posted by italianguyinsi on Fri Feb 26 23:46:32 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. Roadbed abnormality?Curve? |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Feb 27 02:15:30 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. Photo won’t download all I get is a [?]. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 07:24:35 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sat Feb 27 02:15:30 2021. Sometimes photos are slow to load on this site. 
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 27 08:36:32 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. My guess would be unfinished trackwork. |
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Posted by zac on Sat Feb 27 10:52:38 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 27 08:36:32 2021. Or the trackbed is on blocks due to water. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sat Feb 27 12:07:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 07:24:35 2021. Taking the L train in the 1960's, I do remember once or twice a car higher than the platform, never a car lower than the platform. With men wearing suits and ties, this had to be way before the 60's. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 27 13:49:17 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by jabrams on Sat Feb 27 12:07:06 2021. "With men wearing suits and ties, this had to be way before the 60's."Prime example of that shown here, with men dapper and women dolled-up in their workplace attire waiting for an express at the Woodside Sta in the late 1940s  |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 16:35:22 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 26 20:41:50 2021. because the platform is so low.And a photographer happens to be there take a picture of the car sitting high. There must be a reason for the photo. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Feb 27 16:53:31 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 16:35:22 2021. And a photographer happens to be there take a picture of the car sitting high. There must be a reason for the photo. Bill: Is it possible that this is a "posed" picture? The platform appears to be unfinished without the top layer of concrete. I know that one of the lower level platforms at City Hall (BMT) are in this condition, maybe both? I was only down there once about twenty years ago. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 18:00:51 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Feb 27 16:53:31 2021. Bill: Is it possible that this is a "posed" picture? The platform appears to be unfinished without the top layer of concrete. I know that one of the lower level platforms at City Hall (BMT) are in this condition, maybe both? I was only down there once about twenty years ago.I doubt that the station is City Hall. If you look through the door glass, I see tiles on the wall and a niche. Also unreadable is a porcelain sign on the steel column. I'm waiting to hear from randyo and see what he thinks. I was correct, it's a mystery photo. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Feb 27 19:15:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 18:00:51 2021. Also unreadable is a porcelain sign on the steel column.Unless there's something unusual going on (like a fake one being there for a movie shoot or something), that sign should at least help rule out several stations. The letters go right up to the rivet in the lower-right corner, so it's unlike Fulton and Broad. I was thinking maybe DeKalb, but the tiles don't match. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 19:31:34 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Feb 27 19:15:40 2021. The letters go right up to the rivet in the lower-right corner, so it's unlike Fulton and Broad. I was thinking maybe DeKalb, but the tiles don't match.The tiles look more BMT than IND, which should rule out Fulton & Broad St. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:26:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 18:00:51 2021. Wish there was more lettering on that support post! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:30:20 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Feb 27 16:53:31 2021. Larry, that station looks like it is not pristine, by any means. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 21:14:51 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Feb 27 18:00:51 2021. I think it's the side platform on the BMT Essex St station. The pillars on the other Essex St platform, as well as those at Bowery, Canal, and Chambers, have different pillar types than this one. If I am right, this would be the last car of an 8 car train heading downtown. |
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Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Feb 27 21:19:05 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Feb 27 19:15:40 2021. Not that I ever saw it in service, but could this be the sb plat @ DeKalb, the front section that ended on a curve? The track that today's 4th Av locals stop on. The car appears slightly elevated, as though on a curve. |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 00:57:11 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. My guess is that AB 2644 is at the north end of the northbound platform at Dekalb Avenue (Flatbush Avenue), on the bridge-bound track, before the extension of the platform northward in the 1950s. 2644 is sitting high because the bridge-bound track at the north end of Dekalb ascends, whilst the tunnel-bound track descends. This picture would have been taken prior to the modification of the northbound platform at Dekalb in the 1950s. Of course, after modification, the new bridge-bound north end ramps up and is separated from the tunnel-bound side which ramps down. The painted number, well-maintained clean outside, and lack of enamel number plates could mean that this was taken during the BMT days, prior to city takeover. Evidently, the train length was long, 8 cars, so perhaps this was a northbound Brighton Express. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 02:54:12 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by jabrams on Sat Feb 27 12:07:06 2021. I have seen a case or two of the car being a bot below the platform but I can't recall exactly where. That platform looks like ti might have been undergoing some sort of reconstruction which may account for its rough looking appearance I have seen photos of the Centre St BMT (BRT) line taken either during or shortly after construction and the station areas have type 1 ballasted roadbed instead of the type 2 which was what most of us remember. Obviously st some point, the trackbed was converted to type 2 and it may be possible that during the conversion the roadbed ended up being raised a bit necessitating the platform bering raised. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 03:12:21 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Feb 27 21:19:05 2021. As another poster mentioned, the tiles don’t match the DeKalb style tiles. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 03:33:07 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 00:57:11 2021. Definitely not Dekalb Av. The exp stations on 4 Av had a very distinctive tile pattern with alternating rows of large and small tiles. When Pacific was rehabbed, they englected to followth pattern and used all large square tiles. |
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Posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 07:26:28 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 27 20:30:20 2021. Could it be the end of Chambers St where the tracks were to rise to the Brooklyn Bridge? Didn't the Myrtle/Chambers train relay on the tail track that was made from that? |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 07:32:52 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 03:33:07 2021. Randyo, are you sure it's not Dekalb? At the extreme top left corner there is seen on the support column part of a sign, and I'm not sure but I think I see there the bottom of the letters ALB. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 28 08:00:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 02:54:12 2021. Take another look at the photo, Look at the platform edge and the bottom of the car body. The gap widens and narrows. At first I thought the car had derailed and the wheel flanges were sitting on top of the rail head. But if it was a derailment, why are there passengers aboard instead of being asked to leave ? Adding to this mystery, why was this photographed ? This is a mystery that has all of us baffled. I waiting for the poster who goes by "BMT Standard" to see what he thinks. I never saw an AB sitting that high before. That's got to be at least 8" or higher.
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Posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 11:12:54 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 07:32:52 2021. Maybe it is during the Dekalb rebuild? Something was done to the tracks and they no longer matched the platforms? I've never actually seen any photos of Dekalb before or during the rebuild. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sun Feb 28 11:42:40 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. NYCHA elevator wannabe?Vader 😛 |
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Posted by BMT Standard on Sun Feb 28 13:01:49 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. My best guess is that the car in the photo is on a curved platform, perhaps at DeKalb Ave. As I remember (going back more than 60 years), the curve at the south end of the DeKalb Ave platform was somewhat superelevated, so that the cars stopping on the curve were not level, which would explain the step up into the car. The angle of the photo may be exaggerating the size of the step up as the camera angle is from above looking somewhat down into the gap.Not sure if the tile patterns on the wall match the south end of DeKalb. They may have been somewhat different from other parts of the station as the south end, on the curve, was an extension added in the 1920s. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 13:04:18 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 28 08:00:55 2021. I am STILL pretty sure that this was the last car of an 8-car train of Standards at Essex St. The station is the side platform & track for Chambers/Broad St bound trains. I remember seeing this incline when, as a kid, I used to explore the Centre St Subway, as it was called. The problem was gradually solved when post-War R-16 cars were put on the Eastern Division lines running across the Williamsburg Bridge. An 8-car trainset of R-16's was some 55 feet shorter than an 8-car set of Standards, so the last car did not open its doors as shown in the photo. |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 13:39:11 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 13:04:18 2021. Here is a photo of the Chambers St.-bound platform at Essex St. from nycsubway.org. I don't know if this the area Elkeeper is referring to. The wall tile pattern matches the mystery photo, as does the girder orientation, but the typography on the enamel sign looks different:
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 13:39:13 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 11:12:54 2021. I was thinking it was long before the rebuild and that 2644 was the first car of an 8-car train, this being the extreme northern end of the northbound platform where the tracks begin their ascent to the Gold St. interlocking and the bridge. |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 13:42:04 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 13:39:13 2021. Let's try this again -- I posted the wrong photo before. This is an older pre-reno photo of that area. Again, note that the enamel sign seems not to match the fragment of type we see in the original photo |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Sun Feb 28 13:45:40 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 13:39:11 2021. Hmmm....you're right, the tiles do match. And a descent from a higher elevation such as a bridge could account for the mismatch of the end of an 8-car train of Standards from the platform. The enamel signs were liable to have been changed over the years. After seeing this photo, I think now that Elkeeper was correct all along. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 28 14:51:41 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644 [CORRECTION], posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 13:42:04 2021. I do not believe that these enamel signs are the original ones. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 16:59:10 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 13:39:11 2021. Although the tiles match, the safety niche in the new photo is the full height of the curtain wall and goes completely through it whereas the safety niche in the old photo goes only slightly above the window line of the car and appears to be filled in, so Essex is probably not it. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 17:30:06 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 11:12:54 2021. I actually did get a chance to see Dekalb both before and during the rebuild and It is definitely NOT Dekalb. Even taking into account as another poster mentioned that the tiles at the extreme south end on the curve might not have matched the originals, There are several other factors to consider. The actual walls of the station infrastructure have no safety niches and since there is one clearly in the photo just outside the lower left hand door window that eliminates any of the outside tracks. The next giveaways that it is not one of the middle tracks are that the safety niches in the curtain walls of the 4 Av Subway are almost the full height of the curtain wall and go completely through making the exp tks visible. The safety niche in the photo is only as high as about a foot above the door window and has tile backing which the safety niches at Dekalb do not. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 28 18:00:24 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 28 08:00:55 2021. Since the platform does not appear to have the safety yellow board, could this be in the middle of some reconstruction that had the firtst layer of cement and was waiting for the second layer, or tiles (but I don't think tiles were installed in the 40's or 50's. Could that part of the platform have been closed and the conductor opened that section by mistake? Why are the people starring at the photographer? |
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Posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 18:05:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 17:30:06 2021. I don't see a safety niche in the photo in the left door. When I blow it up I can see it is a shadow on the tiled wall.One thing I did see in my "research" is that standards would be higher than the platforms, with the platform frequently below the upper set of rivets. And this was at Dekalb Ave. You can see all the pics I saw on NYCSubway.org on the standards page, just filter for dates in the mid 50s. |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 20:30:52 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by zac on Sun Feb 28 18:05:00 2021. When I blow it up I can see it is a shadow on the tiled wall.I agree that the shadow on the tiled wall does not seem to indicate a niche. It looks like it is the shadow of the divider between the two panes of glass on the train door. That said, although the tile pattern design definitely does not match the pattern at De Kalb, the fragment of lettering on the enamel station name sign does resemble the old signs there, which simply read DEKALB. In the b/w photo it appears possibly to show the bottom of the two vertical elements of the letter A, a foreshortened L and the bottom of the letter B. I am stumped as to what station this could be, as it does not fit with any 4th Ave line stations, nor Atlantic Ave on the Brighton, and there are few stations on the Bway or Center Street lines that would match it. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 22:50:55 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Sun Feb 28 20:30:52 2021. I see what you mean about the safety niche. The shadow gave me an optical illusion of it being a safety niche. |
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Posted by zac on Mon Mar 1 07:15:32 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by jabrams on Sun Feb 28 18:00:24 2021. Those safety boards came much later than the pic. And everyone stares at a photographer.It does look though like the platform isn't really complete. My reconstruction of this photo goes like this: 1. There is tile like that behind the closed door window at Dekalb in places. 2. The platform was under construction as Dekalb was in the 50s. 3. The lettering on the sign is kinda/sorta ALB 4. Standards rode a bit high in many places anyway. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 1 10:55:00 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 16:59:10 2021. The Broad Street-bound Essex Street side platfiorm seems to have its western end start before the track swings into it. Why is that ? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 1 12:31:29 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 16:59:10 2021. Randy, back in the 1960's I took a (pre-MTA) "D" train to Delancey to explore the old Essex St station. i walked back on the side platform to the end to see if I could see the WillyB. I noticed how high the door-to-platform distance was on the Standards and R-16's. It seemed higher on a set of Myrtle Ave Exp Standards, that went through there. I still think it's Essex! |
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Posted by K. Trout on Mon Mar 1 12:54:56 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. I'm thinking somewhere along 4 Av, if you look at old photos the original tiling of the local stations was brick-style. However, it is odd that no niches are visible. Maybe Myrtle Av - I don't recall if it had the same frequent niche spacing as the other stations. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 1 12:55:06 2021, in response to [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 26 18:12:00 2021. Received in an e-mail from someone who requests anonymity.I have been following the great debate about that picture you have of 2644 with the high step. High steps into cars are not uncommon. I have seen this in a number of place with a number of different car types. The key to identifying this photo is the tilework, the style of column and possibly the piece of the station sign. Some stations had different types of columns in the same area. Be very careful with the tile work and the stations, as some stations (like Pacific Street) had one style of tile on the local side wall and a different one on the express. That would, for example, make Pacific Street a contender except for the sign. See photo. Pacific Street used to have a higher step into a car on the south end of the station… I do not recall what the tilework on the south end of DeKalb on the tunnel/bypass side looks like on the Manhattan bound side, but it would be worth a look. Essex, Bowery and Canal Street all have tile and at least one column that match what is in the photo. So does Pacific Street. And now a wild card, what about Myrtle Ave (Gold Street)? Only photos I have seen show round columns but that may only be of one side of the station. Southbound and Northbound could be different, as it is at Canal Street. Bowery and Essex Street on the J line. If you have any photos showing both sides of Myrtle, that might be a clue. Just going by what I am seeing, the only stations this could be are: Pacific Street if the sign was not a factor, DeKalb if the tile on the tunnel track side is different near the ends of the unrebuilt station, Myrtle if columns match in one direction or the other, and finally Canal, Bowery and Essex Streets, where all of the features could be found. Nowhere else has the tile style and columns to match and the sign may or may not be a clue. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Mar 1 14:15:27 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 28 08:00:55 2021. Could that Standard simply be leaning to the right causing its left side to rise up over the platform level?--Mark |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 1 16:23:53 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by zac on Mon Mar 1 07:15:32 2021. Show me where there is tile like that anywhere at Dekalb. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 1 16:27:16 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by randyo on Sun Feb 28 22:50:55 2021. So, it just might be Essex St? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Mar 1 16:33:52 2021, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Mystery Photo - AB # 2644, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 1 12:31:29 2021. While I am not 100% sure, Essex is high on my list of possibilities too. |
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