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Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 09:51:02 2020



Tuscarora Almanac - December 1, 1879 - The Book of First Runs

Manhattan, New York
New York Elevated Railroad Company

The 9th Avenue El is extended from 135th Street to 155 Street with a stop at 145th Street. The 140th Street Station will not open until 1898.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / April 1994, article "Ninth Avenue El", by Mr. Bernard Linder



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1919 – The Book of Last Runs

Manhattan, New York
New York Railways

New York Railways discontinues service on the Canal Street Streetcar Line. The route had run between Hudson Street and Walker Street.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /November 1989, article by Mr. Bernard Linder



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1945 – The Book of Last Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Board of Transportation
BMT Division

Service is discontinued on the Union Street trolley line (Rt.71).

Source: New York Division Bulletin / December 1977 / article by Mr. Edward B. Watson



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1946 – The Book of Wrecks

Toms River, New Jersey
Pennsylvania Railroad

The Pennsylvania Railroad Bridge across Barnegat Bay between Toms River and Seaside Park, New Jersey is destroyed by fire.

Source: “Pennsylvania Railroad Eastern Region Trackside” (Morning Sun Books / 2016) by Mr. Robert J. Yanosey



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1951 – The Book of Last Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Board of Transportation
BMT Division

This is the last day for Saturday operation of the No. 15 Jamaica Express and no. 14 Broadway-Brooklyn Local.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / August 1966




Tuscarora Almanac - December 1, 1955 - The Book of First Runs

Long Island City, Queens, New York
New York City Transit Authority
BMT Division

The 11th Street Connection in Queens opens for service today. It connects the local tracks of the IND Queens Line south of Queens Plaza Station with the BMT 60th Street Tunnel. This allows BMT Broadway Line Brighton Locals to operate to the IND Forest Hills Station. (In 2020 this service is provided by RT. R trains).



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1974 – The Book of Wrecks / Malbone Street II

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Transit Authority
BMT Division


A Franklin Avenue Shuttle train approaching Prospect Park derails and collides into the tunnel wall at Empire Boulevard. This is the same location as the infamous Malbone Street Wreck which occurred on November 1, 1918. The switch which was under repair moved after the first truck of the leading car, 3669 passed over it. Several people were hurt. The full consist was (s) 3669-3668 and 3528-3529. Car R-32 3669 was damaged beyond repair.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /February 1975



Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1980 – The Book of First Runs

Brewster, New York
Conrail / Metropolitan Transportation Authority

The MTA opens a new station on the Conrail operated Harlem Line. It is called Brewster North and is situated between Brewster and Patterson stations. It was renamed Southeast in 2003.


Tuscarora Almanac - December 1, 2013 - The Book of Wrecks

The Bronx, New York
Metro-North Railroad

Metro-North Railroad Hudson Line Train No. 8808 derails north of Spuyten Duyvil Station. The consist was P-32 225 and coaches 6156, 6147, 6188, 6440, 6345, 6288, and 6222. The crash killed four passengers and injured over sixty.

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Dan on Tue Dec 1 12:08:26 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 09:51:02 2020.

'Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1945 – The Book of Last Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Board of Transportation
BMT Division

Service is discontinued on the Union Street trolley line (Rt.71).

Source: New York Division Bulletin / December 1977 / article by Mr. Edward B. Watson'

Was the Rt. 71 immediately replaced with the B71 bus?


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[PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 1 16:11:27 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 09:51:02 2020.

Tuscarora Almanac – December 1, 1974 – The Book of Wrecks / Malbone Street II
A Franklin Avenue Shuttle train approaching Prospect Park derails and collides into the tunnel wall at Empire Boulevard. This is the same location as the infamous Malbone Street Wreck which occurred on November 1, 1918. The switch which was under repair moved after the first truck of the leading car, 3669 passed over it. Several people were hurt. The full consist was (s) 3669-3668 and 3528-3529. Car R-32 3669 was damaged beyond repair.


Coney Island yard - March 1978

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 1 16:27:09 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 09:51:02 2020.

I think you missed listing the original Malbone St. wreck on your Nov. 1 almanac.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 16:52:37 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 1 16:27:09 2020.



I think you missed listing the original Malbone St. wreck on your Nov. 1 almanac.

Nope. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Besides the second wreck is less well known.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 1 18:43:57 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 1 09:51:02 2020.

People were treated to souped-up BMT standards from Queens Plaza to Continental Ave.:)

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 1 19:20:37 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 1 18:43:57 2020.

The BMT M/M were quite surprised at the peppiness of their trains with the IND’s 600V as opposed to the BMT’s 550V and a few of them missed some stations until they got used to it. Although it unfortunately never happened, I would have loved to see how the Multis would have operated on full voltage.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by jabrams on Tue Dec 1 22:13:13 2020, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 1 16:11:27 2020.

Was is the story with the car on the left. Did that use the "F" designation for the Franklin Shuttle in 1974. That damage doesn't look too bad compared to the other car on the left.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 1 23:08:29 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by jabrams on Tue Dec 1 22:13:13 2020.

Photo op. If you saw the actual derailment photo, the car had "SS" in the front.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Dec 1 23:34:43 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by jabrams on Tue Dec 1 22:13:13 2020.

The car on the left was in an accident on the north channel bridge?

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 2 07:40:14 2020, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 1 16:11:27 2020.

If the R-32 was wrecked in '74, wouldn't it still have blue side doors?

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 2 12:32:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 2 07:40:14 2020.

It’s probably faded from sitting in the sun for 6 years

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 2 13:43:22 2020, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 1 16:11:27 2020.

Was the R40 wreck from Roosevelt Avenue ?

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 13:59:48 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 2 07:40:14 2020.

Some R-32s had silver doors in 1974 (much to my annoyance)

Even though it was shot the next year (1975), the R-32s on the B in this Welcome Back Kotter opening credits scene have silver doors




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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 14:03:04 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 13:59:48 2020.

And in the accident pic, it had silver doors (though the storm door was still blue)





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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 2 14:34:26 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 14:03:04 2020.

Good points. I had forgotten about those. For some reason I thought they adopted the silver doors later, when they were putting in more effort into the graffitti epidemic.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 2 15:00:44 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 2 13:43:22 2020.

Not that.

The Roosevelt Ave. wreck was R16 #6304 vs. an R40 modified car #4501(post renumbering) which was eventually repaired and returned to service.

The R40 slant (and I do mean slant) pictured is #4200 was wrecked in 1971 at one of the Rockaway Line Bridges. Its' mate was retired as well. All this info courtesy of Dave. P's site.

Funny think, I don't remember that Rockaway incident at all. I looks like it hit an R10, LOL! Anybody have further information on that incident?


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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Dec 2 16:02:02 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 2 15:00:44 2020.



Bill: I reviewed the New York Division Bulletins for June 1970-December 1971 and I couldn't locate any information about the incident. R-40 4200 was listed on the April 1971 scraplist as being badly damaged. It was removed from the list in October 1971 and was not scrapped until 1980 per Dave Pirman's web-site.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Dec 2 16:02:02 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 2 15:00:44 2020.



Bill: I reviewed the New York Division Bulletins for June 1970-December 1971 and I couldn't locate any information about the incident. R-40 4200 was listed on the April 1971 scraplist as being badly damaged. It was removed from the list in October 1971 and was not scrapped until 1980 per Dave Pirman's web-site.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 2 16:37:16 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by 3-9 on Wed Dec 2 07:40:14 2020.

It was intended to paint the R-32s, 38s and even the slant 40s, with a broad blue stripe like the 40Ms and 42s so the doors were probably painted silver in preparation for that. Unfortunately the graffiti problem put an end to that.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by jabrams on Wed Dec 2 17:25:46 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 14:03:04 2020.

Did this accident occur in the tunnel (like Malborne Street) or at its current location (which appears to be looking north towards Franklin Ave.?) It also looks like the switch is in the middle of the second car which remained completely on the left track. So it was just the front truck that split the switch. After that derailment they basically shut down the south side of Prospect Park for the Shuttle. So actually it had nothing to do with the sharp "S" curve into the station.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:27:07 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by randyo on Tue Dec 1 19:20:37 2020.

I'll bet, "Whoa!" was a popular expression.:)

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:29:48 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 2 15:00:44 2020.

Never mind an R-10. That car looks as though it picked a fight with a BMT standard!:)

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:30:57 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Dec 2 14:03:04 2020.

The storm doors remained blue until GOH.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:32:00 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by randyo on Wed Dec 2 16:37:16 2020.

The R-38s initially had that thin blue stripe at the belt rail.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Dec 2 18:53:03 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Dec 2 16:02:02 2020.

Thanks.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 2 19:29:59 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:32:00 2020.

That was pre MTA.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by zac on Wed Dec 2 21:19:58 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by jabrams on Wed Dec 2 17:25:46 2020.

The front truck took the switch as it should and the rest did not. The south side had been shut down since the 60s at that point after they stopped turning the shuttle on the express track south of Prospect Park on summer Sundays (a remnant of the Franklin-Nassau expresses). The tail end of the first car continued to the S-curve and hit the wall that the Malbone wreck hit, but it wasn't the S-curve that caused this accident.

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 2 21:28:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 1, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Dec 2 18:32:00 2020.

What about the slants

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