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Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020

How many subway stations are named after neighborhoods?
It would have to be an official name and not adn recent add on name.
Morris Park woudl qualify but "crown Heights" Utica Avenue would not.
I count 19. One station has th esame name on two different lines.
Anyone to try?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020, in response to Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020.

If you include names that use a neighborhood as a subtitle, but not those that were added in the 1990s:

Sheepshead Bay
Brighton Beach
Morris Park
East 177th Street-Parkchester
Cypress Hills
Stillwell Avenue-Coney Island
71st-Continental Avenue-Forest Hills
Main Street-Flushing
179th Street-Jamaica
Jamaica Center-Parsons Boulevard
Howard Beach
Beach 116th Street-Rockaway Park
Mott Avenue-Far Rockaway
Broad Channel
Beach 105th Street-Seaside
Beach 90th Street-Holland
Beach 36th Street-Edgemere
Beach 25th Street-Wavecrest
168th Street-Washington Heights
Roosevelt Island
21st Street-Queensbridge

That's more than 19. I haven't included stations named after parks, institutions, squares/intersections, unless that's also the name of the surrounding neighborhood.

Honorable mention goes to "Mott Haven", the original name of 138th Street-Grand Concourse. I didn't include "Woodlawn" because it's based on the former name of Bainbridge Avenue north of 205th Street "Woodlawn Road."

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by mike nash on Wed Sep 16 18:02:49 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020.

how about prospect park

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 18:10:27 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020.

ok and there are lie 61st Woodside or 34th Street Hudson Yards.
I wasnt; sure if th eoficial name of 179th is Jamaica ir even 71st Continental Ave Forest Hills.
THey evenhave Wakefield 241 or Eastchester Dyer Ave or Metropolitan Avenue, Middle Village or Ditmars Blvd Astoria.
I was specifically askign for stations that have the neighborhood as an official name of the station with station signs at the station indicatign this. So Rockaway Parkway, does not say Canarsie Rockaway Parkway but the announcement on the L train does.
My list was Pelham Parkway (twice), Woodlawn, MOrris PArk, Parchester, Howard Beach, Broad Channel, Far Rockaway, Rockaway Park,
Sheepshead BAy, Brighton BEach, Coney Island, Briarwood, Kew Gardens,
Jackson Heights, Rego Park, Woodside, Roosevelt Island, Cypress Hils, Hudson Yards. THank you for Mott Haven!

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Sep 16 18:53:07 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 18:10:27 2020.

Well, both Pelham Parkway stations are named FOR the actual parkway, even though Pelham Parkway is also used as a neighborhood name. Rego Park is not the primary name (full or partial) of a station. Briarwood officially is, but it's still a recent change. And if Jackson Heights and Kew Gardens are valid (and I think they are), shouldn't Forest Hills be also? Woodlawn, yes. When the station opened, the former Woodlawn Road was already Bainbridge Avenue, so the station was just "Woodlawn" from day one, despite the "Road" suffix being mistakenly added back on car destination signs for many years.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:09:57 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Sep 16 18:53:07 2020.

The Rockaway libns were originally named after neighborhoods. These were LIRR designations. They have since changed to street designations

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 20:35:04 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:09:57 2020.

And those names are mostly disuse save a few old timers if you can find them.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:50:18 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 20:35:04 2020.

They were resort areas which no longer exist

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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 16 21:16:11 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020.

Of those, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach, Morris Park, Cypress Hills, Howard Beach, Broad Channel and Roosevelt Island are named only after neighborhoods.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 21:43:07 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:50:18 2020.

Pretty much.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 16 23:34:12 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020.

205 st Norwood
207 St. Washington Hts

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 16 23:40:09 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 16 23:34:12 2020.

207 St is not actually in Washington Hts proper but the next neighborhood north, Inwood.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 00:04:41 2020, in response to Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020.

Many of the stations did not actually have the names as described on the roll signs. The BMT for the most part was inclined to use the neighborhood names as destinations such as Astoria, Jamaica, and canarsie rather that the actual station names of Ditmars Blvd, 168 St, or Rockaway Pky although there was a bit of inconsistency with even those. The other divisions were also a bit inconsistent. Although the terminal for the Jerome Av Line was always callked simply “Woodlawn” as long as I can remember and all the destination signs that I saw read simply “Woodlawn-Jerome Ave” there are photos that show Lo-Vs with signs reading “Woodlawn Road-Jerome Ave” similar to the “Woodlawn Road” readings on the R types. Parkchester as a neighborhood name didn’t show up until WWII when the apartment complex of that name was constructed by Met Life. The IND destination signs often did not match the actually station names because in most cases the destination sign reflected the name of the branch line on which the station was located. 207 St on the A line is not in Wash Hts but is the terminal of the Wash Hrts line of the IND. 205 St is not actually on the Concourse but the destination signs read Concourse-205 St because it is the terminal for the Concourse Line of the IND. The IND, however was not always consistent either since while the destinations of Queens-Forest Hills and Queens-Kew Gardens were on the iND Queens lines, the destinations signs for Parsons, 169 and 179 S contained the neighborhood thse stations were located in rather than the name of the line.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 06:46:53 2020, in response to Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020.

Many current stations originally had community names, especially when they were still on the surface.

Some Brighton Line stations, for example.

Albemarle Road briefly had a flag stop, Prospect Park South.
Newkirk Plaza was South Midwood.
Avenue H was Fiske Terrace
Avenue J was Manhattan Terrace
Avenue M was Elm Avenue was South Greenfield
Avenue U also known as Homecrest

I would like to some of the names revived,if only as secondary names; it emphasizes neighborhoods.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Union Tpke on Thu Sep 17 08:51:03 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 06:46:53 2020.

I had never heard of that flag stop. Do you know more about it?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:07:19 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Union Tpke on Thu Sep 17 08:51:03 2020.

It was at the time that Prospect Park South (the development) was being opened. Developers being what they were (and are) I wouldn't be surprised if the BRT was paid a little something.

The "station" was gone with the grade crossing elimination, but PPS was influential in getting the station at Beverley Road, so PPS resident wouldn't have to walk to Ave C, which was a major street even then.



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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:17:33 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:07:19 2020.



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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:29:08 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 06:46:53 2020.

Also Consumers Park for the brewery of that name. Some time after the Malbone Street wreck it was renamed "Botanic Garden." In 1928 it was demolished (it was just platforms and stairs) and the current Botanic Garden was built new at the south portal of the Eastern Parkway tunnel.

Also Dean Street (don't bother looking for it LOL) was built to replace Bedford, the terminal and connection to the LIRR.



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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 11:52:45 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:29:08 2020.

👍🏼

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 17 14:31:29 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020.

Arverne?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:03:52 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 17 14:31:29 2020.

That is a recent change.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:06:41 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 18:10:27 2020.

You didn’t say it had to include the signs. I just assumed you meant before the 90s added neighborhood names to most terminals. Briarwood is also recent. I can’t believe I forgot woodside, KG and also Jackson Heights (also twice).

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:08:23 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:09:57 2020.

Frank, Straiton and Gaston were street names, not neighborhoods. The others are all neighborhoods except Playland which was a facility that closed in 1987.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 15:42:38 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 17 14:31:29 2020.

You know where that name came from?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:47:36 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by mike nash on Wed Sep 16 18:02:49 2020.

I do nto know if that is an offical neighborhood name.
I know Prospect Park S outh or Ditmas PArk are neighborhoods. I am not sure if Prospect PArk is one

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:48:48 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Sep 16 18:53:07 2020.

Thank you !
I didn't know about Rego park or Woodlawn

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:49:12 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by northshore on Wed Sep 16 20:09:57 2020.

thank u

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:50:20 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:06:41 2020.

thank u, what was briarwood?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 15:51:09 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:47:36 2020.

Well. Prospect Park is named after a location, not a street. It's a sort of neighborhood. Ask the squirrels.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:51:19 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 16 21:16:11 2020.

yes that is what i was looking for.
This fact actually popped into my head since Sheepshead Bay is my home station

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 15:52:05 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:08:23 2020.

Pretty sure Playland closed up for good after 1985. I have no recollections of going there in ‘86 or ‘87.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:52:14 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 16 23:40:09 2020.

but @ 205 or 207 does it actually say "washington Heights" or "norwood?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:52:40 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 17 14:31:29 2020.

yes! that woudl qualify

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:52:59 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 15:03:52 2020.

i didn't know that

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:54:15 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 00:04:41 2020.

thank you

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:55:13 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 06:46:53 2020.

Thank you, that's my line and I had no idea!

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:55:53 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 11:17:33 2020.

thank you so much!

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:57:11 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by SLRT on Thu Sep 17 15:51:09 2020.

that's true, i guess i could also ask the yuppies

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Sep 17 16:27:32 2020, in response to Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020.

There are tons of subway stations in the transit system that are named after neighborhoods. The Brighton Line, Jamaica Line, Fulton Street Line, Queens Boulevard Line, White Plains Road Line, Dyre Avenue Line and the Flushing Line are the most well known examples of this.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by northshore on Thu Sep 17 16:58:07 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by italianstallion on Thu Sep 17 14:31:29 2020.

Arverne was the original LIRR name for the station

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 17:16:44 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Sep 17 16:27:32 2020.

The lines are usually referred to by the route letter or number.

They have been trying to call the Jamaica Line the "Nassau Street Line' since 1960.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 17:17:46 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 20:35:04 2020.

Doe any locals know what "Wavecrest" is ?

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 17:53:49 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:50:20 2020.

I believe the name “Briarwood” was added to the original Van Wyck Blvd station to assist in distinguishing it from the Jamaica Van Wyck station on the Archer Av branch.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 17:59:11 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 15:42:38 2020.

I do. But of course I do.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 17:59:56 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:50:20 2020.

Van Wyck Blvd.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 18:00:22 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 17:53:49 2020.

That and Van Wyck Blvd no longer exists.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 18:00:56 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Sep 17 15:52:14 2020.

I haven’t been up there in a while, but the last time I was up there the station did not have the neighborhood name displayed anywhere. Very few stations actually had the neighborhood names included in the station names. Roosevelt Av - Jackson Hts and Union Tpke - Kew Gardens are among the few. I’m not sure when the change took place, but with the exception of Queens, the destination signs did not indicate the names of the neighborhoods at all.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 18:01:36 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 15:52:05 2020.

So I looked it up and Playland closed as usual for the end of the season in 1985 and did not reopen in 1986. Its permanent closure was then announced in 1987.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 18:07:05 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 17:16:44 2020.

The reason for that was the Manhattan centric attitude of the TA at the time was to deemphasize the importance of the outer borough line names and stress the Manhattan thoroughfare names. The irony of it is that most of the so called Nassau St Line isn’t under Nassau St at all but runs beneath Centre St.

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Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 19:32:33 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Hamilton Express on Thu Sep 17 16:27:32 2020.

Except for Brighton, Flushing, and Jamaica, those are all street names.

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