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Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 14 08:36:54 2020



Tuscarora Almanac - September 14, 1964 - The Book of First Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Transit Authority
BMT Division

The R-32 A "Brightliners" begin passenger service today on the "Q" Broadway - Brighton Express. (aka BMT # 1 Brighton Express.) The first train ran from Brighton Beach to 57 Street - 7 Avenue with cars (n) 3359-8, 3371-0, 3362-3 and 3364-5.

After the General Overhaul Rebuilding of the late 1980’s the R-32 A’s and R-32’s were collectively classed as R-32 GOH or more simply R-32.

When the contract was awarded to the Budd Company in 1963 for 600 stainless steel cars it was split into two separate orders. The first 300 cars were classed as “R-32 A”, road nos: 3350-3649. They were paid for by the City of New York. The second 300 cars were known as “R-32”, road nos: 3650-3949. They were paid for by bonds issued by the New York City Transit Authority.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / October 1964/ Mr. Arthur Lonto

Source: “New York Subways” (John Hopkins University Press / 1997) by Mr. Gene Sansone



Tuscarora Almanac - September 14, 1974 - The Book of Last Runs

Hoboken, New Jersey
Erie Lackawanna Railroad

This will be the last day in passenger service of the veteran Erie Railroad "Stillwell" coaches. They have spent the last several years assigned to the runs between Port Jervis and Hoboken. There is no Sunday service so final runs will occur on Saturday, September 14. There are two scheduled trains that day; the eastbound, No 70 which runs to Hoboken in the morning and the westbound, No 71 which returns to Port Jervis in the late afternoon.

This morning No.70 came down with three E-8's 829, 816, 825 and fifteen coaches. No.70 ran back to Port Jervis with E-8 825 and two coaches. It then deadheaded back to Hoboken.

Source: “Erie Lackawanna in Color” (Morning Sun Books / 1994) by Mr. Larry De Young
Source: “Erie Lackawanna East” (Quadrant Press / 1975) by Mr. Karl R. Zimmerman



Tuscarora Almanac – September 14, 1979 – The Book of First Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Transit Authority
BMT Division

The three restored BU Gate cars arrive at the Court Street Transit Museum in Brooklyn.
The roster numbers are 1404 (motor), 1273 (trailer) and 1407 (motor).



Tuscarora Almanac - September 14, 1992 - The Book of Last Runs (NOT)

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority


SEPTA temporarily ends PCC streetcar service on the No.15 Girard Avenue Line Service will resume on September 4, 2005.

Source: New York Division / Bulletin October 2005

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by DieselBusFan on Mon Sep 14 09:00:07 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 14 08:36:54 2020.

Anybody care to speculate how long the "temporary" suspension of trolley service today on Rt 15 will be? Luckily I rode and photographed the route earlier this year on its last day. That day turned out to be sunny and mild for mid-winter. Stay healthy everyone.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 14 12:10:20 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 14 08:36:54 2020.


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 14 12:47:19 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Sep 14 12:10:20 2020.

I don't know if you are aware that on the bottom photo, those are not ex-ERIE "Stillwell" cars, but former NYW&B MU cars, de-motored and placed into Boston area commuter service.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by chuchubob on Mon Sep 14 13:30:58 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by DieselBusFan on Mon Sep 14 09:00:07 2020.

Anybody care to speculate how long the "temporary" suspension of trolley service today on Rt 15 will be?

Speculation in Philly is that trolleys will return to Route 15 when the new trolley fleet arrives around 2035.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 14 13:48:30 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 14 12:47:19 2020.

So at least the NYW&B cars eventually made it to Boston.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 14 17:06:58 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 14 13:48:30 2020.

So at least the NYW&B cars eventually made it to Boston.

Yup, but not electrically. :-(

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 14 18:41:47 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon Sep 14 08:36:54 2020.

I hear there was a lot of grumbling when the R-32s first appeared. For one thing, they were replacing an icon, the Triplexes, which could swallow crowds and make it look easy with their abundant seating. Not so with the Brightliners with their longitudinal seats. And since platform lengthening was in its early stages, only eight-car trains could operate, shorter than a four-unit Triplex train.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Sep 14 23:11:38 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by chuchubob on Mon Sep 14 13:30:58 2020.

I guess I won't ride it.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Sep 15 00:26:34 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 14 17:06:58 2020.

How long was their service in Boston?
Was the fleet kept together, and what routes did they operate over?
Thanks!

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Sep 15 06:41:55 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Express Rider on Tue Sep 15 00:26:34 2020.

How long was their service in Boston?
Was the fleet kept together, and what routes did they operate over?
Thanks!


I posted those question at railroad.net.

If I get any answers, I'll let you know.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Sep 15 07:54:46 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Sep 14 12:47:19 2020.

No, I was not aware of that. My error. They are a little similar.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by gbs on Thu Sep 17 04:10:03 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 14 18:41:47 2020.


But how long did it take to swallow (and release) those crowds? With only two doors per car, a 12-car train of four triple units had only 24 doors (as opposed to 40 on a 10-car R-type), and on the two end cars in each triple unit the first door is quite far from the end, and those single-panel triplex doors must have taken longer to fully open and close, so the triplex dwell time must have been a lot longer.



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 17:40:00 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by gbs on Thu Sep 17 04:10:03 2020.

When the R-32s first appeared on the BMT they were only in 8 car consists so there were 32 doors per train.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14

Posted by gbs on Fri Sep 18 00:05:08 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 14, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 17:40:00 2020.


But still more than 24. And they were double-pane, so they opened and closed faster, and they were located all along the lengths of the cars, including near the ends.

The loss of seats would have been a legitimate complaint, but the dwell time on the R32 had to be a lot less than on the Triplex.

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