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[PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020

All photos - Aug. 9, 2020.......Merillon Ave - View east from temporary platform
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Merillon Ave - Detailed view of eastbound platform and canopy
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Merillon Ave - View east of new westbound platform
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Merillon Ave - View west of temporary platform and new eastbound platform canopy
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New Hyde Park - View east of new platforms, This grade crossing will be eliminated
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New Hyde Park - View west of temporary platforms
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New Hyde Park - View west, Ronkonkoma train not stopping
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New Hyde Park Rd underpass paved and ready for striping. This used to be a grade crossing not long ago.
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The LIRR had many one lane bridges long ago.The one lane bridge at Tannersville Pond Rd is part of the third track project.
I'm not sure if this will be widened or not.

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The Covert Ave crossing was eliminated and train horns no longer sound
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Thanks for viewing and your comments in advance


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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by murray1575 on Sun Aug 9 16:56:35 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020.

Good pictures which show a major improvement in safety in addition to the service improvements the third track will bring. Those crossings which have been eliminated were a big traffic bottleneck during rush hours.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 9 20:04:52 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020.

Hopefully there is sufficient drainage for heavy rains at these new underpasses. We don't want to see flooding at these new locations.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 9 20:12:21 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 9 20:04:52 2020.

that's what I was thinking.

I'm sure someone in that neighborhood has a small inflatable pool boat and will be posting photos.



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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 9 21:52:17 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 9 20:04:52 2020.

A lot of underpasses like that have big sump pumps installed to handle rainwater. If they aren't serviced regularly, though, they will indeed break and flooding is unavoidable.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by MR RT on Mon Aug 10 11:27:02 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020.

Boy that is some s\"Social Distance" between the new platforms & the track :-)
Seriously, thanks for the photos.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by mkeit on Mon Aug 10 22:08:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 9 20:04:52 2020.

All of the underpasses have pump stations for drainage.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Joe V on Tue Aug 11 07:33:25 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by mkeit on Mon Aug 10 22:08:53 2020.

When the power goes out, which can happen when there is a storm sufficient to flood in the first place, what then ?

I don't know if the 3rd rail power goes out when area commercial power does, but maybe a backup system should have sumps with local DC-AC generator take power from it.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by murray1575 on Tue Aug 11 08:06:13 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 9 20:04:52 2020.

The other locations where crossings have already been removed seem to be ok so I hope that these two will work out as well. It's sure a lot safer than having to cross the tracks at grade level where trains can be going as fast as 70 mph. These crossings should have been removed long ago.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 11 17:27:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by mkeit on Mon Aug 10 22:08:53 2020.

Which brings up the question of just how heavy a rainfall the pumps can handle.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 18:13:45 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 11 17:27:28 2020.

And if debris can compromise function.

People always toss stuff in an underpass.

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[MORE PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Aug 11 20:17:31 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020.

Merillon Ave - Overlap of temporary and new platform.
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View of temporary platforms.
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Temporary sign for a temporary platform.
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View east of the Temporary platform at NHP
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View west of the ROW from the west end of the temporary westbound platform.
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Next installment, Carle Place..............weather permitting !

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Re: [MORE PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Joe V on Tue Aug 11 20:42:23 2020, in response to [MORE PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Aug 11 20:17:31 2020.

New style station sign since the late 1960's, reverse background and font, like the subway.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by jamestrains1 on Tue Aug 11 20:42:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Aug 11 17:27:28 2020.

Information and images regarding underpass pumps:
LIRR 3rd Track Constructors Covert Ave Case Study

From the above website:
"Pump Station Details:
Excel Fluid Group worked with the design-build team: 3RD Track Constructors which included John P Picone Inc. and Stantec, to propose a turn-key controls building and 8” Sulzer-ABS 15Hp pumps rated for 1500 GPM each. The precast controls building satisfied the client’s concern about field installation issues and ensured all components were factory tested prior to being installed at the jobsite."


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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 11 22:02:34 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by jamestrains1 on Tue Aug 11 20:42:53 2020.

Great information. Thanks.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 11 22:56:48 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by jamestrains1 on Tue Aug 11 20:42:53 2020.

I'm sure it's not your fault but when I clicked on the 3rd pix I got a warning of a malicious site.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by jamestrains1 on Wed Aug 12 00:09:54 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 11 22:56:48 2020.

Thank you for letting me know, I just received a similar warning when trying it on my iPad. I think this may be a result of using imagebox to host the images. Previously I was using postimg to host pictures, but postimg had a domain issue and now all old images do not display. (Apparently postimg lost the ability to the domain postimg.com and are now using postimg.cc therefore all old urls for images need to have the ".org" replaced with ".cc" in order for them to display again, so I plan on spending some time updating my old posts to get the images working again.)

Can anyone recommend a reliable free image hosting solution for posts?

More on topic, below are the full size images:











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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 12 00:30:29 2020, in response to [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 9 16:29:27 2020.

These are some great photos! Much thanks!

Mike



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Re: [MORE PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Aug 12 13:31:13 2020, in response to [MORE PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Aug 11 20:17:31 2020.

Nice.

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 12 20:22:32 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by jamestrains1 on Tue Aug 11 20:42:53 2020.

It's great that the pumps can move 1500 gallons per minute. The question then becomes -- "to where?". Are there sumps or something else that can receive the water near those crossings?

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Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 12 21:41:33 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] LIRR Third Track Project - New Hyde Park, posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 12 20:22:32 2020.

My thought is what happens when the autumn leaves start falling & clog up the intakes. Big time flood potential there IMO.

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