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Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 15:21:58 2020 Battle |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:25:37 2020, in response to Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 15:21:58 2020. I read that article and it made it sound like the maglev was operating on a long rail line in China. It is actually one short line between Shanghai and its airport. It doesn't even go all the way into the central business district of Shanghai, you need to take the metro the rest of the way.Last summer I was in Shanghai and myself and two colleagues were catching the same flight home and I wanted to take the maglev. They were dead set against it and decided to take a taxi or car or whatever they called. I had to walk from the hotel to the metro, just 3 short blocks but had to cross the main street. I took the metro on a longer trip than I thought it would be, as we were on one side of Shanghai at W Nanjing Road and the maglev station was on the other at Longyang. Then I'd just missed the maglev and had to wait for the next one, 15 minutes i think. I still beat them to the airport. You barely can feel it moving but I clocked it at 269mph.  Shanghai is a huge city. When we got back on the flight NYC looked small by comparison. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 17:32:58 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:25:37 2020. Thank you, Zac |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 31 17:39:04 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:25:37 2020. Did you video record your rail ride? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 17:43:34 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:25:37 2020. Shanghai proper is actually a third of the size of NYC. The commies took several suburbs miles out from the city in the late 50s and early 60s and called them all "Shanghai", an absurdly huge construct of way over 2,000 square miles in area. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:46:56 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 31 17:39:04 2020. No, I didn't think to. In any case I lost all of my photos from that trip that I didn't immediately post somewhere else as I had retired from my job the very next day, and company policy was to wipe any phone that had company access. They did it so fast I didn't get a backup before they did, but had one from just before the trip. I only lost those photos, nothing else personal. And it wasn't a great loss either as my colleagues all had photos, and there were a lot of us there taking the same pictures. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:48:57 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 17:43:34 2020. It is huge. And even including all of NYC's suburbs doesn't compare. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:52:57 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:46:56 2020. The Metro inside:  The Metro platform:  The Maglev:  |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 18:42:29 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:48:57 2020. You could easily throw in Hudson, Bergen, Essex, Union, even Passaic and Middlesex Counties over in NJ for comparison's sake . . . but I wonder if they'd all want de Blasio ruling over them? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 19:33:44 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:52:57 2020. Excellent photos, They don't mess around ,they have platform doors :):) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 19:45:19 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 19:33:44 2020. Also: Open Gangway Style. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 19:50:44 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 19:45:19 2020. Yes, I noticed that. Thanks, Spider-Pig |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 21:28:53 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Jul 31 19:50:44 2020. And they all stand and wait at the arrows, especially when it gets crowded, and it gets VERY crowded. This was pre-covid of course.The sidewalks were one way in the most crowded areas too, on the way to The Bund at the waterfront. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 21:33:46 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 31 18:42:29 2020. Even including NJ and CT, Shanghai is bigger. You could probably throw in Philly too. |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 23:12:51 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:52:57 2020. One thing to note in the picture, how everybody is dressed. You couldn't tell if this were in an American city or China. Shanghai is one of the wealthiest places I've ever been and there are 24 million people there. There are no run down areas, no homeless people, a handful of beggars. Everybody eats and eats well. All the cars are new, all the rickshaw bikes are electric, everybody has a phone because you need it to pay for everything. It was hard to not have the app on my phone because I had to use cash and nobody there does. The bars were all full. Even the hookers looked middle class and not trashy.And there are security cameras everywhere, watching what everybody is doing, nobody will talk about any sensitive topic, even in private. When I was stranded late at night when I tried changing trains and I missed the last connection I ended up walking about 2-3 miles back to the hotel on deserted streets, except I never felt threatened. I knew I was being tracked, as a grey haired westerner walking alone in a non-tourist area. I even used an overpass and thought as I was crossing I'd never do that in NYC. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 00:20:51 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 23:12:51 2020. You describe it in such glowing terms, and yet all I can think of is “what a bleak dystopia.”Freedom from tyranny is the most valuable form of safety. Why did you have to use cash? Do they not accept credit cards? |
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Posted by zac on Sat Aug 1 07:15:56 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 00:20:51 2020. Oh no, I was pointing it out just to confirm that it is as true as we believe. They are watching you. In my case it was to my safety advantage because they wouldn't want any international incident to happen, but everybody is being watched. And I said too that nobody would talk about sensitive topics, even in private, because there is nothing private.No, they mostly don't take credit cards. It is all electronic. Only places that cater to an international crowd take cards and that doesn't include the shop making scallion pancakes for breakfast, or the noodle shop for lunch. But the streets are not bleak, it is a very western feeling city, you just know there's that cloud of a police state watching. |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Aug 1 10:08:50 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Sat Aug 1 07:15:56 2020. I’ve been to both communist Vietnam and China . Yeh , they are watching you at every turn .Kind of what wine culture is doing in our country . Not a trump fan but voting in a Democrat’s is very scare for the future of personal freedoms and opinions . Biden is beholden to the leftist progressives to get elected . You know the ones holding peaceful protests throwing Molotov fire bombs . On arrival at airport and when you buy a SIM card for your phone , you agree to the surveillance . They have the right to go through the pictures on your phone . All internet traffic goes through government servers . Services such as WiFi phone calls over WiFi don’t work even if you leave your original sim card in phone . You notice the search results come up different then when abroad . I would have been afraid to take detailed pictures of any infrastructure in China . It could have meant a trip to the local police station . Notice I never posted any China rail fan pictures . There are many rules of what you are not allowed to take pictures of . Read some travel forums and there are stories that people have been detained and made to erase their pictures or bribe the government official . When I was in both countries , I had a second phone not connected to the internet that I took many photos on . |
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Posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Aug 1 10:18:47 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 23:12:51 2020. It’s is so nice for a few reasons.People are afraid to do anything not allows . Being a vagrant is not permitted . You will quickly be jailed or made to disappear Drug use is not permitted . They cleared away all the housing of the lower class . Bulldozed then to the ground . You need a job to live in that city . No job , you can’t live there .Moving from another city to feed off others is not permitted The mentally ill are made to disappear . In nyc most of the “homeless” are mentally ill that no matter how much you spend on them, they will still be mentally ill and act like vagrants . Drug use of cocaine and opioids causes brain damage that leads to mental illness . People are happy when they live in loving family units . Our country has forgotten that fact . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 12:25:57 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Aug 1 10:08:50 2020. Not a trump fanDo you have to be a "fan" of someone to elect him based on the job he's doing? He's adhering to the Constitution more than any of the currently-living past presidents. As for what you posted about Red China and Vietnam, yes, the Democrats and RINOs want to bring that here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 14:14:49 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 12:25:57 2020. 
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 2 14:47:22 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Aug 1 10:08:50 2020. That's funny. The left-wing progressives are saying Biden is beholden to Washington lobbyists. It can't be both. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 2 14:50:20 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Brightonr68 on Sat Aug 1 10:18:47 2020. Love it so much? Move there. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 2 15:05:02 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by italianstallion on Sun Aug 2 14:47:22 2020. Sure it's both. That's how we know he's actually a reasonable person. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 2 16:13:44 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 23:12:51 2020. There are no run down areas, no homeless people, a handful of beggars.How would you know? Did you go on an intensive tour of the entire city, covering every single neighborhood? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 3 00:48:32 2020, in response to Re: Magnetic pull: China and Japan battle it out for maglev train supremacy, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 12:25:57 2020. How is it that YOU are Absolutely,without question,"That Dude"?YOU know, THAT DUDE..who EVERY ONE knows that he's Always gonna be LYING,since That's ALL HE KNOWS HOW TO DO. WTF,Man? Why are you even here? Nobody BELIEVES A GODDAMN THING YOU SAY,SO YOU FORCE YOURSELF ON OTHERS...REPEATING THE SAME LIES,THE SAME LYING BULLSHIT DAY AFTER DAY. JUST EXPLODE ALREADY! |
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