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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jul 29 07:29:40 2020 Tuscarora Almanac – July 29, 1882 – The Book of First Runs Catskill, New York Catskill Mountain Railroad The Catskill Mountain Railroad begins operation. Trains will run between Catskill Landing on the Hudson River and the town of Lawrenceville. Eventually the railroad will reach Palenville where passengers can transfer to the Otis Elevating Railway. Note: This refers to the original railroad and not the current operation in Kingston. Source: “Rip Van Winke Railroads” (Black Dome Press / 1999) by Mr. William F. Helmer Tuscarora Almanac – July 29, 1914 – The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company A two track elevated connection is put in service connecting the Myrtle Avenue line south of Central Avenue with the Broadway-Brooklyn line east of Myrtle Avenue. This permits through service between the Metropolitan Avenue Terminal in Ridgewood and Manhattan. This service was provided by the No.10 Myrtle-Chambers Express until 1967 and is now provided by the “M” train. Source: ERA New York Division Bulletin / February 1971 / article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac - July 29, 1975 - The Book of Wrecks East River, New York Penn Central Transportation Company Jersey Arrow I No. 105 collided with P-70 coach 1714 which was being hauled by a GG-1. Both trains were running light. The engineer of 105 was killed and car 105 was wrecked. Source: New York Division Bulletin/ October 1975. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Jul 30 23:33:35 2020, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Wed Jul 29 07:29:40 2020. A two track elevated connection is put in service connecting the Myrtle Avenue line south of Central Avenue with the Broadway-Brooklyn line east of Myrtle Avenue How did they handle the different car dimensions when they implemented this service? Did they shave back the platforms from Central to Metropolitan right away? If so what did they do about the gap with the El cars? Or did they use El cars at first along Broadway, and if so, what about the gap at those stations? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jul 30 23:55:32 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by gbs on Thu Jul 30 23:33:35 2020. From what I have seen of the photos, all the BMT Eastern stations on the dual contract portions of the lines were built as concrete originally with the exceptions of Met, Jamaica and Lefferts. Met was the original wooden platform and Jamaica and Lefferts were “temporary” wooden island platforms as it was intended to extend both the Fulton and Jamaica lines farther east (railroad south). That being the case, I can only assume that the platforms were able to clear 10 ft wide cars as built and passengers on the el cars just had to mind the gap. Why the Southern Div platforms were wood and the Eastern platforms were concrete I don’t know. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jul 31 08:32:43 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by gbs on Thu Jul 30 23:33:35 2020. How did they handle the different car dimensions when they implemented this service? Did they shave back the platforms from Central to Metropolitan right away? If so what did they do about the gap with the El cars? Or did they use El cars at first along Broadway, and if so, what about the gap at those stations? The platforms had to be cut back on those lines were the ten foot wide cars were operated. It was felt safe to continue to operate the nine foot wide el cars on those lines. This was due to the fact that a conductor (or guard) was stationed between each pair of cars to open the gates. He could then advise passengers to watch the gaps. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:39:30 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jul 31 08:32:43 2020. Yes, the only time I rode the Q cars in regular service was on the upper part and you had to take a big step to get on. I also remember the sills being higher, but that might not be the case. I still kick myself for not riding out to Bridge/Jay that day. I also kick myself for not riding the 3rd Ave el in The Bronx when I was up that way railfanning. |
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Posted by gbs on Fri Jul 31 22:13:38 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:39:30 2020. In the mid- to late-sixties I rode both the Myrtle and Third Av Els a couple of times from end to end, but I have only a few memories. On the Myrtle I too recall high sills, but I also remember sill extensions. Maybe that's a false memory after having seen sill extensions on the museum cars. But if they were on the Q cars back then, the high sills would have allowed the extensions to ride above the platforms, so there was no problem with them fitting. I never used the paper transfers to the IND at Bridge/Jay because I always paid and entered at Metropolitan, and the tickets were given only south of Broadway. On Third Av at the hub I recall walking on the overhead passage and seeing a kiosk at the subway entrance below. I rode the World's Fair cars, and was shocked when someone told me they were newer than the Arnines that I was familiar with. They were so ugly and primitive and seemed stripped down and bare. Going uptown I recall the curve north of 183 St, as Third Av veers west on its way to joining Webster Av at Fordham Rd. And just before the sharp right turn onto Gun Hill Rd there was a rectangular STOP sign, white with black capital letters. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:01:34 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by gbs on Fri Jul 31 22:13:38 2020. I don’t recall the “Stop” sign near Gun Hill but I recall there was one just N/O 183 St on the SA/B tk. I never could figure out why there was one there. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:16:56 2020, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for July 29, posted by zac on Fri Jul 31 17:39:30 2020. When the Qs were transferred back to the BMT after lvg 3 Av service, the sills were added to bridge the gap on the platforms between Bway and Met since there would no longer be C/Rs to make sure that passengers had no difficulty with the gaps. The Qs actually ran a bit higher off the roadbed due to their maximum traction trucks left over from their 3 Av days so at stations between Bway and Bridge St the sills would ride just above the platform level and clear. |
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