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[PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Mar 26 08:07:58 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

Nice 👍🏼

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

Did the R-33s have lighted advertising? I thought knot. Looks more like a 38. Photo even looks too wide to be an IRT car.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:42:35 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.

Car is 897-something. I didn't know that either about the backlit ads. No long door windows, so could not be R38, and they never had dark blue doors.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Mar 26 10:50:02 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.

With number 8977?

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 11:07:24 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.

Did you not see the 897# number? R-38s were 3950-4149. And no, the 33s did not have backlit ads, nor did any of the mainline IRT SMEEs pre-R-62. 38s did have them, as well as the last 100 R-32s (3800-3949).

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 11:07:49 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Mar 26 10:50:02 2020.

IAWTP

Someone needs to just go play with their trains.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 26 11:19:56 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

Wow! I remember those colors from my childhood days in the early 70s. I didn't know/recall any of the R-33s having the backlit ad racks.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 26 11:22:30 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:42:35 2020.

Agreed! Perhaps, one of the TA's experiments(backlit ads)? It would sorta make sense and maybe that led to them spec'ing the 150 R-32s with those lights???

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 26 11:43:51 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.



Did the R-33s have lighted advertising?

I do not have the numbers in front of me but about eight or ten T-33 were built with the back lite advertisements.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by mack c-49 on Thu Mar 26 11:57:15 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

This must be some sort of photoshop project because the color scheme, advertisement lighting and fleet number don't reconcile. Explanation?

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Mar 26 12:50:54 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.



R-33's 8970-8977 had transparent advertisement with back-lit fluorescent lights.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 26 13:07:46 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Mar 26 10:14:46 2020.

Don't doubt Bill Newkirk about what the difference is between an R33 and an R38.

ROAR.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 14:15:04 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by mack c-49 on Thu Mar 26 11:57:15 2020.

This must be some sort of photoshop project because the color scheme, advertisement lighting and fleet number don't reconcile. Explanation?

R-33's 8970-8977 had transparent advertisement with back-lit fluorescent lights.

Larry, RedbirdR33



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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:08:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 26 11:22:30 2020.

There was a small group of R-33s that had backlit ad signs. I believe it was only 10 cars.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:10:05 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 11:07:24 2020.

As I mentioned in my other post about 10 R-33s did have backlit ads.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:11:58 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

Notice as I have mentioned in several posts, the similarity between the R-29/33 interior paint scheme and the interior paint scheme of the NTTs.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 17:31:55 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:08:53 2020.

Never knew that! The things you can learn here!:)

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 19:35:58 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 26 13:07:46 2020.

PWNED

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 19:36:29 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:10:05 2020.

I stand corrected. Apparently, I never rode those cars.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 26 20:08:40 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 15:08:53 2020.

Never knew that either!

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 26 20:29:40 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

Notice the cigar and cigarettes advertisement.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 20:50:04 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 26 20:29:40 2020.

And the missing big block warning about how cigarettes will kill you, usually on the bottom. Black type on a solid white backround was the usual style.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 26 21:01:15 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 26 20:29:40 2020.

Yes. And mostly male aimed ads back then.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 26 21:11:26 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 11:07:24 2020.

8977

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by R46 5636 on Fri Mar 27 02:07:42 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by WayneJay on Thu Mar 26 11:22:30 2020.

Never heard of or witnessed this either. Anyone have or know of an interior shot with that lighting on a R32?

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 27 02:58:22 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 26 19:36:29 2020.

I rode them a few times and one of the problems that they had was that unlike the BMT and IND, many of the advertisers’ employees did not have the clear plastic ad cards to install so they merely installed the standard cardboard one which blocked the light and made the cars dark.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 07:58:04 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 26 21:01:15 2020.

Males worldwide have twice the death rate of females from Covid-19. Higher rates of smoking among males is the likely cause, though Blood type A has been much harder hit in proportion than blood type O. (I don't know about + and -). I don't know how those blood types are distributed though to correlate any causality.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Mar 27 11:31:05 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 26 13:07:46 2020.

If you blow up the picture real good and look into the next car clearly it's made with matching Add card lighting, You'll see two drop down windows with the route sign next to that. BMT cars would only have either to windows or 1 window 1 route sign . Definitely not in our 27

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Mar 27 11:52:14 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 07:58:04 2020.

What has that got to with this?

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 12:06:59 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by randyo on Fri Mar 27 02:58:22 2020.

Correct!!! Based on eye witness observation. Unfortunately I did not own a camera, let along roam the subway with onw when I was age 13 or 14 at the time.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 12:09:21 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Mar 27 11:31:05 2020.

IND/BMT SMEE's did not have a light fixture between the last end flor pole and the car headliner that dropped down to change route and destination markings. This is a photo of an IRT car!!!

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 12:12:10 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 14:15:04 2020.

Notice the missing add on sticker "BRAKE" that was added in the 1980's next to the sticker EMERGENCY by the red cord on the cab wall.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Mar 27 12:28:25 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 12:09:21 2020.

It's funny I missed that but I spotted the 3 Box signs plus 2 the windows in the next car.

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[ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 27 13:42:55 2020, in response to [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 07:26:10 2020.

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Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 15:08:32 2020, in response to [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 27 13:42:55 2020.

Yes. And as i walked through the train I saw various combinations of lighting. The recessed lights in the photo as shown, and then none at all. After that one Saturday, I never saw those cars again, unless they were sent to the #6 Pelham, along with R17's, a train line that I did not frequent in the 60's.

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Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 27 15:12:38 2020, in response to Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 15:08:32 2020.

The backlit ads disappeared during GOH.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 16:13:27 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Mar 27 11:52:14 2020.

Responded in wrong thread.

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Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by handbrake on Fri Mar 27 18:28:10 2020, in response to Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by randyo on Fri Mar 27 15:12:38 2020.

I would not have expected anything different regarding GOH. However where those cars ran after that one Saturday on a Southbound #4 Lex is still a mystery.

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Re: [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Mar 27 18:33:16 2020, in response to [ANOTHER PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 27 13:42:55 2020.

NICE PHOTO

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Mar 27 20:01:23 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by R46 5636 on Fri Mar 27 02:07:42 2020.

Go to www.nycsubway.org.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Mar 27 20:01:25 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by R46 5636 on Fri Mar 27 02:07:42 2020.

Go to www.nycsubway.org.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Mar 28 07:59:54 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by R46 5636 on Fri Mar 27 02:07:42 2020.

Never heard of or witnessed this either. Anyone have or know of an interior shot with that lighting on a R32?

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 28 09:22:35 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Mar 28 07:59:54 2020.

I vividly remember the green backlit 57th St. side signs on my first subway ride, a shiny new R-32 N on July 21, 1965.

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Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 28 12:44:08 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-33 #8977 (Interior View), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Mar 28 07:59:54 2020.

NICE PHOTO

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