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[PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020 Forgotten New York Article Google View Today 
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Mar 24 12:04:39 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. You can see on Google Street View that the part of the sign located above the low-slung TD Bank building has faded into nothingness in the 32 years since it was uncovered. As it faces roughly southwest it's exposed to the afternoon sun, which may have contributed to the fading.I did a bit of online research to see if I could find an approximate date for the sign but it wasn't too helpful. Enery's dates back to the late 1870's, though of course the sign couldn't be older than 1888, and the last reference I could find for the company was in 1925. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Tue Mar 24 12:52:02 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. The FNY article notes that the address would be near Lawrence St. What would have been the route from Midwood to Downtown circa 1920? CI Ave streetcar then transfer to....? Did the Smith St line meet with it? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 13:32:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Mar 24 12:04:39 2020. Enery's dates back to the late 1870's, though of course the sign couldn't be older than 1888, and the last reference I could find for the company was in 1925. I wonder if the Mullins Furniture Store came after McEnery's ? (December 1969) 
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Mar 24 15:41:15 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. way cool |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 16:10:29 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. I hope someone will take a commercial quality photo and submit it to the Brooklyn Historical Society for consideration of it being included in their photo collection. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 24 16:24:15 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. at first glance I read it at 88-90 a hyphenated address which would put it in Glendale.Then I read the article. More buildings should be demolished to find stuff like this. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 16:35:05 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 24 16:24:15 2020. Uncovering painted signs from the past on brick (or other) walls, has been a subject at least several times on the Forgotten NY website.Maybe you've seen these pages? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 24 16:35:30 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 24 16:24:15 2020. There are a few around here in the Bx but they’re probably from the 70s. Like the one for Knickerbocker Savings Bank that went defunct around 1982. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 24 16:47:10 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 13:32:06 2020. My dad lived in a 2nd floor apartment in the building on the right in 1972. I was living with my mother in Illinois then, but spent the summer in Brooklyn with my grandmother. On two occasions that summer, she had to travel to her native North Carolina, in June when her older brother fell ill. He subsequently died, and she returned in July for his services. During both those times, I stayed with my father. The el was gone by then, the apartment looked out onto Myrtle, so I was treated to a parade of B54 buses, including an Old Look (last time I ever saw one, as they would be gone by the following January). Too bad the el wasn't still there then (though if it had one, I doubt my father would have taken the apartment, he hated the subways (he was born and raised in South Carolina, after serving in the Air Force during the Korean Conflict, he attended college where he met my mother)). |
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Posted by WayneJay on Tue Mar 24 16:52:21 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. That's awesome! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 24 17:20:23 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 16:35:05 2020. yes I've seen them many times.This one is special because of the rail reference. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 17:20:49 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 13:32:06 2020. I looked into it. According to this map, McEnery's furniture was there in 1916, or 1921.The same site was occupied by Phelans, also a furniture store, in 1929. Finally, in 1940, it was J. Michaels. Note that as a corner building it also had a Lawrence St. address. Also note the photo shows another building on the near corner with a visible "84 Furniture" sign. That appears to be Mullins, which was on the SW corner of Myrtle and Lawrence, so it was in the foreground of your photo. Also see McEnery's listing at "86 Myrtle" in this 1921 Brooklyn Chamber of Commerce bulletin. James McEnery died in 1918 so it was likely that the business was sold soon after. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 24 17:32:22 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. "Google View Today"Today? Lot of people on the street on streetview. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 17:40:22 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Mar 24 12:04:39 2020. The NYC Map Portal claims the building (1114 Avenue J) was built in 1920. The NYC Department of buildings lacks a certificate of occupancy. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Mar 24 17:47:16 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 24 17:20:23 2020. Yes, that's true about the rail refererence. I don't think I've seen any of old brick wall adverts. for transit. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 19:04:24 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 17:20:49 2020. Thanks.It looks like the whole block was furniture store row. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 24 21:28:36 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 17:20:49 2020. William F Phelan died in 1935. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 25 13:55:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 13:32:06 2020. What EL was that? |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Mar 25 14:02:06 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 25 13:55:28 2020. That's the now demolished Myrtle Av el facing east from Jay St. Myrtle Av at that point is now a pedestrian mall, part of the Metrotech complex. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Mar 25 15:07:21 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 24 21:28:36 2020. Mullins Furniture came after Phelan's in 1940. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:12:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Mar 25 15:07:21 2020. No. See my post. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Mar 25 15:44:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:12:28 2020. OK! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 25 17:05:58 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:12:28 2020. Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 15:12:28 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Mar 25 15:07:21 2020. 
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 25 17:33:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 24 17:32:22 2020. Of course, it's not today, 03-25-2020. I did a Google Earth and it just says 2020.,no date.Thanks, Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 25 17:54:20 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Mar 25 17:05:58 2020. WTF? |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Mar 25 19:03:53 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. Based on comments at Forgotten-NY it looks like the sign dates from between 1906 and 1920. The businesses used the address of 86-88 Myrtle until a 1906 expansion, after which it used 86-90 as in the sign, and according to print advertisements it used simply 90 Myrtle after 1920. |
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Posted by Bill West on Thu Mar 26 14:44:53 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 25 17:33:53 2020. Copyright dates are the date of publication not the date of photography, lots of Google pictures are a few years old. On many websites the copyright statement has even been set to just automatically give the current year making it quite useless for dating views. Google has gotten better at this and in the instance of Bill Newkirk's Google Map link they separately gave the date of photography, June 2018.Bill |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 16:45:48 2020, in response to [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 24 10:44:57 2020. The black-and-white lettering is incredibly sharp, not like the faded ads the site has posted pictures of in the past. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 19:05:23 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 16:45:48 2020. The black-and-white lettering is incredibly sharp, not like the faded ads the site has posted pictures of in the past.Yes, thanks to being exposed to the sunlight for a short time for a building to be erected and block it. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 20:05:41 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Mar 26 19:05:23 2020. If you go to the Department of Buildings and look up the address of the Payless/TD Bank building, you’ll find a certificate of occupancy for sometime in the 1920s, and additional ones for modifications of that building, and finally one dated 1989 for what is presumably the current building. So this sign would have been covered only a few years at most after it was painted, helping to preserve it. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Mar 26 20:27:08 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 20:05:41 2020. One question that still remains is why the company would have paid for a large sign a fairly long distance away from its store. It would not have been visible from any elevated subway line, just the streetcars on Coney Island Avenue, and there doesn't seem to have been a large number of these signs. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 20:58:08 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Mar 26 20:27:08 2020. It is likely that the furniture stores on Myrtle were big and drew customers from the whole borough. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 27 02:55:15 2020, in response to Re: [PHOTO] They Demolished A Building And Look What Was Exposed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 20:58:08 2020. Myrtle was only 2 blocks away from Fulton St which was a major shopping center back in the day so it would be logical that furniture and possibly appliance stores would be located as close as possible to the main drag to attract customers. |
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