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Posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 24 11:40:04 2020 Along with "W" and "Z" skip stop on Jamaica El |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 12:09:56 2020, in response to No Bravo Todaay, posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 24 11:40:04 2020. And 5 in Brooklyn, and 6 and 7 expresses. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Tue Mar 24 12:31:53 2020, in response to No Bravo Todaay, posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 24 11:40:04 2020. Sounds like a switch to a Saturday schedule. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:33:07 2020, in response to No Bravo Todaay, posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 24 11:40:04 2020. As I stated elsewhere, the M seems to have dodged this round, but I can see it becoming a Metro-Myrtle and/or Metro-Essex (daytime only) shuttle within a few days. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 12:37:23 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:33:07 2020. Not while the L is on its 20-minute night and weekend interval. Though a shortening to 96th rather than Continental would make sense. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:40:54 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 12:37:23 2020. I agree. It doesn't sound like they will stop the work on the L line no matter what. It would be quite a story to have this crisis (the virus) stop the recovery work from the last one (Sandy). |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 12:58:52 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 12:40:54 2020. Right.I went past 1st Ave and Ave A last Sunday morning and they were very busily at work. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 13:37:14 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 24 12:58:52 2020. I wonder if they'd even shut down the whole system but continue that project! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 24 14:49:36 2020, in response to No Bravo Todaay, posted by italianguyinsi on Tue Mar 24 11:40:04 2020. It's funny, the announcements of all these changes on the MTA website say service suspended for the particular line "today." Why not just say - for the duration or until further notice? Are they really going to try to have full service tomorrow and on future days? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 15:10:52 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 24 14:49:36 2020. Understandably, they don't want to commit to anything long-term.If even a bit of crowding occurs today because of the reductions they did, they may put certain things back. I'm not sure if they are using modified loading guidelines given the virus, but, for example, if they find even a couple of 2 trains in Brooklyn that exceed the loads they're looking for, they may put the 5 train back in Brooklyn right away. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 24 16:47:31 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by K. Trout on Tue Mar 24 12:31:53 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 25 00:34:30 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 24 15:10:52 2020. Unlike Transport for London, the MTA wisely decided to actually run enough trains so that they're not packed. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Mar 25 14:14:45 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 25 00:34:30 2020. How many Transport of London crews have Covid-19 or are under quarantine? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 25 19:47:03 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Mar 25 14:14:45 2020. They say 1/3 the crews and other staff are out for quarantine/isolation or out sick for other reasons.This doesn't seem to have happened in NY yet. I'm wondering if their regulations are less flexible than NYCT, they implied that the people out sick have "years of experience" to operate a specific line and therefore they could not move people around to fill needed roles, which seems to be the opposite of how NY does it. They might not have as deep a bench of employees to draw from in a crisis. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 25 23:50:49 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Mar 25 19:47:03 2020. I’m not sure abut London, but some transit systems outside of NY have “line seniority” or in the case of buses and streetcars “depot seniority” in which unlike NYCTA, an employee transferring between lines or depots has to go to the bottom of the seniority list of the line or depot he/she is transferring to so most employees tend to stay in one depot or on one line for a long time. The only place that similar restrictions apply in NYCTA is bus operators transferring between Bkln and either Queens or Staten Island since those boroughs are represented by ATU and not TWU. Otherwise bus operators like train crews are free to pick any line or depot they want. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 26 12:45:19 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 25 23:50:49 2020. I thought that there was also an 'extra' list where people go where needed in a pinch? The description of London made it sound like they had no such system-wide mechanism. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 14:38:36 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 26 12:45:19 2020. When London Transport people came to the schedule office years ago, I never though to ask them about that. What London and other countries under the British sphere of influence seem to lack is an actual pick system like US transit properties have. LT employees work out of what they refer to as a “roster book” and often the employees don’t even work the same run 2 days in a row. The system provides for an employee to work alternate weeks of early (AM) runs and late (PM) runs supposedly to allow for the employees to had some semblance of a social life rather than be locked into crummy off hours for months at a time till the employee’s seniority improves. The so called runs are packaged weekly and the weeks are numbered 1 through 52 so that the employee knows what runs he/she will have for the entire calendar year. One employee’s yearly schedule might start with week 1 and continue in consecutive order to week 52, while another might start with week 5 and continue till it resolves around to week 4. The way it was presented to me also was that there are no true penalty or overtime runs. The combination of runs for a given week is packaged in such a way that all employees work exactly 40 hours, no more and no less. For example, if one day’s run works 10 hours actual, another run in that same week would work only 6. On a full week, 2 days runs would be 10 hours, 2 more day’s runs would be 6 hours and the 5th day would be exactly 8 hours so that the total hours for the week would be exactly 40. All employees are off Sundays and one other day off, but on a rotating basis employees are required to work at least one Sunday a month as overtime. That was the way it was explained to me and if anyone out there has a more accurate description of how things are there, feel free topost. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 26 20:25:51 2020, in response to Re: No Bravo Todaay, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 26 14:38:36 2020. Thanks for the explanation! |
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