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NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 20:58:20 2020

Thought these were not FRA? So why adhere to FRA guidelines?

There are some interesting facts about their MDBF.

NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

NJ Transit line’s new eco-friendly engines will mean fewer delays, agency says

Posted Jan 10, 2020
By Larry Higgs
The old, troublesome trains on NJ Transit’s River Line are getting the rail equivalent of a heart transplant.

All 20 trains on the 34-mile long River Line — which runs between Trenton and Camden — are scheduled to receive new diesel engines that meet higher environmental standards and are more fuel efficient, said Nathan Rudy, an NJ Transit spokesman.

The Swiss-built Stadler light rail vehicles on the River Line entered service 15 years ago. This work replaces the original Tier I diesel engines with cleaner, more fuel efficient Tier IV engines, Rudy said.

New engines also should mean fewer break downs, translating to fewer delays. Since 2017, breakdowns on the River Line have gotten worse, according to NJ Transit data. River Line trains traveled 9,362 miles between breakdowns in Jan. 2017. That dropped to 5,909 miles between problems in November, frustrating riders.

“The new engines will meet current federal emission standards, increase fuel efficiency and service reliability, and reduce maintenance costs, and as a result, improve mean distance between failures,” Rudy said.

The worst train related problem happened on June 7 when service had to be limited after inspections found hairline cracks in new train wheels delivered by a manufacturer. Officials pulled trains out of service for emergency inspections out of “an abundance of caution.” Buses augmented light rail service.

Officials touted the environmental benefit of the new engines for reducing nitrogen oxide emissions by at least 57%, and cut particulate matter (soot) by 90%.

“NJ Transit service gets people out of cars and is one the best ways to limit state-wide greenhouse gas emissions,” said Kevin Corbett, the agency’s President and CEO, in a statement. “These engines will help NJ Transit reduce its carbon footprint and operating costs through better fuel efficiency.”

In addition to new engines, River Line cars will get better heating systems, auxiliary power to reduce down time, upgraded control and diagnostic features, and a better fire suppression system that will expand the useful life of the River LINE vehicles to 30 years.

Total cost of the project is approximately $700,000, and full installation the new engines should be completed by Spring 2022. There will be no impact on service while engines are installed on the fleet, officials said.


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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jan 14 21:09:23 2020, in response to NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 20:58:20 2020.

Probbly the EPA regs overrule the FRA ones here

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Dave on Tue Jan 14 21:22:43 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jan 14 21:09:23 2020.

Don't think it works that way, but I'm not sure.

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 00:36:26 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jan 14 21:09:23 2020.

Guess that's why the highways have a plethora of Volvo and Freightliner (Daimler-Benz) trucks these days.

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jan 15 08:48:22 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by nasadowsk on Tue Jan 14 21:09:23 2020.

FRA is silent on the emissions issue.

This is simply budget journalism that is pretty much forwarding an NJT press release where a manager is trying to build up their resume.

RiverLine trains were built with an end-of-life Daimler-Benz marine diesel that were pretty much out of support a year after the LRV's entered service. The decision was made to use these diesels because they were cheaper. The contract service provider that runs the line (Bombardier I think), has not surprisingly, been having major issues keeping the engines running and after 15 years they need to be replaced or overhauled.

Since trying to overhaul a 15 year old German diesel that was out of support 14 years ago is too stupid even for Bombardier, they are looking to purchase a new engine and the only new engines in that class on the market meet Tier IV emissions.

So the more accurate headline should read: "NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old engines swapped out for new replacement."

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 10:41:51 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jan 15 08:48:22 2020.

You saying the land of Rudolf Diesel is deliberately making diesel engines to have a short life?

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jan 15 13:24:28 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 10:41:51 2020.

German engines need expensive upkeep even during the best of times, probably much worse when they are actually out of support.

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Joe V on Wed Jan 15 17:44:16 2020, in response to NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 14 20:58:20 2020.

They are not terribly interested in fuel economy when it comes to purchasing 17 more ALP45DP's. They need 17 plain diesel locomotives that more more fuel efficient.

They need 10 dual-powered locos per day for such service. They already have 35 of them. In D mode, they are fuel hogs. They also have to carry around the dead weight of AC electrical equipment.

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Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 15 19:06:37 2020, in response to Re: NJT “River Line” Stadler DEMUs getting old Tier I engines swapped out for Tier IV, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jan 15 13:24:28 2020.

So the USA did Rudolf Diesel's invention better, eh.

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