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PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019

Amtrak recently rebuilt the passenger station at Paoli. Photos from yesterday. Center platform where tracks 2 and 3 used to be, serving tracks 1 and 4.

looking east





SEPTA train 562




looking west





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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 11:05:54 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Sad. Massive population loss must've resulted in a 50% reduction in track services.
Wonder if the highways will start losing lanes too.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 11:50:13 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 11:05:54 2019.

This was the PRR freight main line as well as passenger. Norfolk Southern freight trains run on the former Reading between Philly and Harrisburg.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 12:13:04 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 11:50:13 2019.

Is NS using another track, then? Removing track 2 and 3 here can't be good for that.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 12:22:38 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 11:50:13 2019.

Never mind, I misread your original message. But that begs a couple of other questions: does that mean freight no longer travels along the PRR main? And what's going to happen to tracks 2 and 3 over the rest of the main?

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Nov 15 12:28:12 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Nice looking photos.....Nice looking station.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:31:34 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Nov 15 12:28:12 2019.

That's nice looking?

Oh well; no accounting for taste. Looks overbuilt and tasteless to me, except for the remaining older parts.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 12:51:34 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 12:13:04 2019.

NS runs on the former Reading, not Amtrak (former PRR). NS operates some locals on Amtrak's Keystone Corridor in the Lancaster area.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 12:53:38 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 12:22:38 2019.

I replied to your never mind before I saw your retraction.
The Keystone Line is mostly two track from Paoli west.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 13:30:34 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 12:53:38 2019.

OK, thanks for both replies!

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Nov 15 13:31:49 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

NICE PHOTOS

NICE STATION

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 15 13:33:26 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Awesome! Is Paoli the end of the Main line?


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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 13:44:32 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 15 13:33:26 2019.

I believe most PRR commuter trains (Paoli Locals) terminated there. I don't know whether Paoli was the official end of the Main Line.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 15 15:43:22 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Why do the signs say Paoli Station, instead of just Paoli?

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:01:24 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:31:34 2019.

I noticed something.

They built this thing to be high platform, for level boarding I guess. But, instead of going up like 3 or 4 steps or whatever on a train, I gotta walk up and down how many dozens to get level?
Good exercise I suppose.

If you think this is overbuilt, check out any road bridge or overpass. Anything that used to be 2 lanes without a shoulder gets to be twice as tall, and about 5 lanes wide, just for the 2 lanes.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 16:49:40 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:01:24 2019.

They built this thing to be high platform, for level boarding I guess. But, instead of going up like 3 or 4 steps or whatever on a train, I gotta walk up and down how many dozens to get level?

You don't use elevators?


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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 15 19:03:25 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Will the old westbound platform be torn up ?

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 15 19:17:33 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:01:24 2019.

Yes, but with 2 side platforms, in one direction or the other, you had to go up and over to get to the other side to or form your car or house.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 15 19:20:00 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 13:44:32 2019.

Paoli was the end of commuter service. West of the station was the Paoli SHop,s which maintained the entire MP54 fleet, wherever they ran, whether New York - Trenton, Balto-Washington, or the various Philly commuter branches. When they tore down the shops, it was a hell of a Superfund PCB site that had to be cleaned up.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by aaron on Fri Nov 15 20:45:29 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Nothing was so holy as the local to Paoli...

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:20:15 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:01:24 2019.

That's not a good comparison. Highways do that to increase capacity (of course, to increase congestion); Amtrak does this to constrict the possibility of expansion on what is supposed to be a federally-designated high-speed rail corridor.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:21:15 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 15 13:33:26 2019.

Not by a long shot.

And this reduces a four-track main to two tracks. Remember, this is supposed to be a federal high speed corridor.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:22:29 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 15 12:22:38 2019.

Amtrak destroyed them.

So much for commitment to high-speed corridors, yes?

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:23:07 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by aaron on Fri Nov 15 20:45:29 2019.

Looks like Amtrak destroyed freedom of religion there.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:53:56 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 11:05:54 2019.

That never happens.

Remember that the left hates trains, including the ones they control.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Nov 16 00:27:07 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:53:56 2019.

Depends on what you consider a highway.

US-20 through the city of Albany (where it is Madison Ave) had its 4 lanes reduced to 2 with a center turn lane and 2 dedicated bike lanes.



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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Nov 16 02:49:39 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

SEPTA will regret creating a bottleneck when they have to increase service to Thorndale and beyond.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 06:46:40 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:20:15 2019.

HSR or not, Amtrak trains would still stop at Paoli, and it is Penn DOT's call as to where they stop.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 09:36:15 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 06:46:40 2019.

PennDOT doesn't own the Main Line. Amtrak does. Can't be PennDOT's call then except where Amtrak agrees in terms of funding agreements. Guess PennDOT is an impediment to high speed rail then, presuming that's the case, eh?

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 09:38:16 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Nov 16 02:49:39 2019.

Did SEPTA create that one? This isn't their railroad.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by northshore on Sat Nov 16 10:12:35 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Construction opf Paoli Station started in the Spring of 2016 and was completed in the Fall of 2018

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 11:13:54 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 09:36:15 2019.

Penn-DOT determines whether there is any Keystone or Pennsylvanian service at all, how many trains per day, and where they stop.

The Keystone trains hit 106 MPH further west, despite Paoli. East of Paoli is one curve after another.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 11:16:12 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Jersey Mike on Sat Nov 16 02:49:39 2019.

Who said they have to ?

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 11:19:03 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 11:13:54 2019.

That's nice, but the average speed is the determining factor. Should any future goal of increasing average speed appear on the horizon, Paoli in its current form hampers it.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 11:29:49 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 11:19:03 2019.

You are assuming any faster train means they will bypass Paoli. Not likely. Maybe Ardmmore.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 16 12:04:25 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Why do the signs say Paoli Station, instead of just Paoli?

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 12:11:24 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 16 12:04:25 2019.

No one seems to know.

Maybe it's because there is no such municipality as Paoli.



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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 16 15:12:45 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 12:11:24 2019.

19301 (Paoli), (Penna)

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 16:28:46 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 12:11:24 2019.

Wikipedia says it is a "Town".

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Nov 16 17:10:06 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 16 12:04:25 2019.

And not all signs either. Someone decided to throw in a superfluous word for no reason.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 17:37:30 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 16:28:46 2019.

Which Wikipedia is that? Not this one, which calls it a "census-designated place" that straddles two townships (Willistown and Tredyffrin) and in one place says it was once a "town" albeit without any citations.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 17:39:19 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 17:37:30 2019.

They may have used the word loosely. I have no idea if they have a government or not.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 18:35:27 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 16 17:39:19 2019.

Your own source, Wikipedia, says they do not.

Paoli /peɪˈoʊliː/ is a census-designated place in Chester County near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States. It is situated in portions of two townships: Tredyffrin and Willistown. At the 2010 census, it had a total population of 5,575.



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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 16 18:51:36 2019, in response to PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by chuchubob on Fri Nov 15 10:25:53 2019.

Nice photos Bob, can't recognize it today. Haven't been to Paoli since the late 80's.
Is the yard still there ? I heard catenary wire was removed long ago.
(Sept. 27, 1989) Another photo below this

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Reading "Blueliners" (Oct. 26, 1989)
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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 16 19:27:50 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Nov 16 17:10:06 2019.

Thanks.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Nov 16 20:16:11 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 16 18:51:36 2019.

Thanks for the memories! Bill Newkirk

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 17 02:28:59 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 18:35:27 2019.

My hospital and doctors have a Paoli,Pa. address.

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Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station

Posted by chuchubob on Sun Nov 17 07:43:27 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: new Paoli station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 16 18:51:36 2019.

The yard is long gone after a major PCB remediation.

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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 17 07:57:30 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 17 02:28:59 2019.

Yes, it's a postal and census area but not a municipality.



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Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Nov 17 08:21:50 2019, in response to Re: PHOTOS: New Paoli station, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 23:53:56 2019.

So is that why Trump reduced federal transportation spending money on Public Transportation to its lowest spending ever?

Youre saying Trump is leftist?

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