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New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 11 15:23:36 2019

Will their streetcars survive the incoming hurricane ?



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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jul 11 16:21:31 2019, in response to New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 11 15:23:36 2019.

Hopefully, they learned from Katrina. This storm won't be anything like that one, but still could be troublesome.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 17:10:34 2019, in response to New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 11 15:23:36 2019.

oh no

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 11 17:56:34 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 17:10:34 2019.

Oh yes.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jul 11 18:01:27 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 11 17:56:34 2019.

not good

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 12 00:43:01 2019, in response to New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 11 15:23:36 2019.

Uh-ohhhhhhhhhh.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jul 12 02:33:27 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jul 11 16:21:31 2019.

Hopefully, they learned from Katrina. This storm won't be anything like that one, but still could be troublesome.

IIRC, the classic Perley-Thomas cars escaped submersion since they were stored on higher ground. Not so with the red replica cars that were sent out for repair. Not sure if they were sent to Brookville Locomotive or Gomaco.

So the question is, will the red cars be safe, being stored and built on higher ground since Katrina ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Mr RT on Fri Jul 12 06:03:54 2019, in response to New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 11 15:23:36 2019.

That looks so bad the motors are right there on the trucks, if they get wet that's it at Branford we remember !

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 06:17:50 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Mr RT on Fri Jul 12 06:03:54 2019.

Traction motors are not generally ruined by water. Many years ago there was a flood on the #6 at Hunts PT. We pulled the trains out and removed the contact shoes. They were hauled to the yard where the motors and groups were thoroughly hosed out and allowed to dry. Most were absolutely fine afterwards.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jul 12 07:56:48 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 06:17:50 2019.

Traction motors are not generally ruined by water. Many years ago there was a flood on the #6 at Hunts PT. We pulled the trains out and removed the contact shoes. They were hauled to the yard where the motors and groups were thoroughly hosed out and allowed to dry. Most were absolutely fine afterwards.

The big difference is salt water, correct ?

Bill Newkirk


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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 10:30:28 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jul 12 07:56:48 2019.

Absolutely. Is the Mississippi salt water?

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 12 10:44:18 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 10:30:28 2019.

I do not believe so- but I think the Gulf of Mexico is. So if the storm surge came from the gulf- and if the gulf is salt water, I guess there could be problems.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 12 10:46:25 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 12 10:44:18 2019.

The Gulf of Mexico definitely is. Lake Pontchartrain is also brackish, meaning that is salty but less than the ocean. Also, NO is close enough to the Gulf that the river at that point may be an estuary, so it may be brackish there too, like the Hudson River. That I don't know.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 12 11:01:02 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 12 10:46:25 2019.

Salt water went 89 miles up the river during a drought.

Belle Chasse, mentioned in the article, is at mile 64 and is just below NO.

So I would guess there could be salt in the river at NO, but only in drought times, which these aren't.




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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 12 11:12:08 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 12 11:01:02 2019.

I didn't realize that NO was so far from the sea. I thought it was like 20-30 miles.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 11:37:26 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 12 10:44:18 2019.

Well, in any event, the point was well taken and one that I had not considered.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 12 11:39:21 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 12 11:12:08 2019.

There's as the crow flies and as the river winds. :)

The river has also created its own massive delta over the years.


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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 13 04:52:47 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jul 12 02:33:27 2019.

Those Perley-Thomas cars filled on the Canal St. line while the red replica cars were undergoing repairs. Surprisingly, they didn't have Canal St. signs.

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Re: New Orleans Street Flooding

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jul 14 07:20:15 2019, in response to Re: New Orleans Street Flooding, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Jul 12 10:30:28 2019.

Where is the water coming from? Last I heard on Beakman's World last week, I thought he said rain doesn't have salt.

The mississippi depends on what sewage Chicago is dumping. The biggest environmental killer in North America is traced to the Democratic city of Chicago. All of the gulf sewage comes from there.

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