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Train on the Ground...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 7 13:49:32 2019



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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 8 04:08:08 2019, in response to Train on the Ground..., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 7 13:49:32 2019.

I seem to recall US trolley systems using something similar to switch tracks.
I take a look.

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 8 05:32:37 2019, in response to Train on the Ground..., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 7 13:49:32 2019.

Great video, showing the re-railer in action. The re-railed wheel spits out the tool, neat!

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 8 06:30:46 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 8 05:32:37 2019.

Is this something that is used in the subway in NYC?

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jul 8 06:50:50 2019, in response to Train on the Ground..., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 7 13:49:32 2019.

Nice video. Thanks for sharing! I wonder how long it took to re-rail a Baldwin "Centerpede"??

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Alan Follett on Mon Jul 8 09:01:34 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 8 04:08:08 2019.

Not quite the same thing as the rerailer in the photo, but you may be thinking of the hose bridge, an appliance to enable trolley cars to cross over fire hoses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hose_bridge

Alan Follett
South San Francisco, CA


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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 8 09:55:12 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Alan Follett on Mon Jul 8 09:01:34 2019.

Hose Bridge That's a jump over thing , not a re-railler, IMHO.

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Alan Follett on Mon Jul 8 10:16:41 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 8 09:55:12 2019.

Yes, definitely two different things with different functions, but I think the hose bridge may be what Avid Reader was thinking of.

Alan Follett
South San Francisco, CA

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by numbersix on Mon Jul 8 11:48:16 2019, in response to Train on the Ground..., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jul 7 13:49:32 2019.

Is train to Brighton Beach?

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 07:47:50 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Alan Follett on Mon Jul 8 10:16:41 2019.

No. It was a temporary set of rails that would be placed over tracks, raising and curving to the tracks next to it. and allowing the trolley to switch, continue past track work.

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Alan Follett on Tue Jul 9 09:36:54 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 07:47:50 2019.

Ah. I do have a dim memory of seeing photos of something like that, but Google and Bing have failed me.

Alan Follett
South San Francisco, CA

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 09:58:20 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 07:47:50 2019.

This is what I had in mind



And yet another

54th Ave & Fowler - Sewer work-Flushing-Ridgewood line 1947


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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 10:13:58 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 09:58:20 2019.

temporary switch

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 10:26:03 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jul 8 06:30:46 2019.

these days a similar system like this is used , two man and small truck can get it anywhere in system . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv5N_pWHdQU

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 11:20:43 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 10:26:03 2019.

Linked


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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jul 9 11:21:51 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 09:58:20 2019.

This photo looks like Church Ave.


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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 15:32:29 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 10:26:03 2019.

thank you.


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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 15:46:53 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Jul 9 15:32:29 2019.

My pleasure!

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 15:48:59 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jul 9 11:21:51 2019.

Nice, thanks!

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 15:49:01 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Jul 9 11:21:51 2019.

Nice, thanks!

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Jul 9 22:17:36 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jul 9 07:47:50 2019.

There was also something called a shoo-fly correct? When there was track work, an entirely new and temporary trolley ROW was constructed for a short distance next to the regular tracks that were being worked on.
The trolley switched to the temporary shoo-fly trackage, operating past the trackwork, and then switching back on to its regular ROW.

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 23:46:30 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Express Rider on Tue Jul 9 22:17:36 2019.

Yes, that is correct! Septa/PTC used them as well as San Francisco, IIRC.

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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 10 02:54:27 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 11:20:43 2019.

Neat video!

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jul 10 03:39:00 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 11:20:43 2019.

super,and with less damage to running gear.

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Alan Follett on Wed Jul 10 08:06:12 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 9 23:46:30 2019.

There was extensive use of shoo-flies for surface cars during open-cut subway construction in Chicago, in the 1930's and 1940's.

Alan Follett
South San Francisco, CA

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Re: Train on the Ground...

Posted by Express Rider on Wed Jul 10 23:10:12 2019, in response to Re: Train on the Ground..., posted by Alan Follett on Wed Jul 10 08:06:12 2019.

Thank you for this info. Finding photos of these construction/ "substitute" surface ROW sites would be great

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